Moving Gronk

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.
User avatar
BigBawseRoss
Degenerate
Degenerate
Posts: 7816
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:56 am

Moving Gronk

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:36 am

Had an inquiry about Gronk from an owner who lost Hunter Henry. Thing is that this owner is likely my biggest challenge. And im also not sure if moving him helps my team as i am trying to defend my title. Would hate to miss a chance to get a young WR for the next 5+ year tho and have Gronk get hurt or something lol. I do have Ertz and Burton, and could get my own 2nd back (traded to this guy for ertz before last season hehe) so a TE at 2.12 is a possibility as well.

They have indicated they would like to send back a WR in the deal and they have OBJ, Adams, Green, Sammy, Cooks, JuJu, M Williams, Shepard

Thinking i might be able to get adams and a 2nd for him since this guy is so deep at WR he is very willing to sell one off to get gronk (thinking OBJ wont be on the table and i dont have picks to add to gronk to get him)

This is for team 2 in sig. please let me know if you think A. Sending Gronk makes sense. and B. if i should even be considering sending him to a direct top competitor?

his team listed for reference (qb,rb,rb,wr,wr,flx,flx,k,def)

wentz/cousins (1qb league)
Zeke, Kamara, Ajayi,Mack
OBJ, Adams, Green, Sammy, Cooks, JuJu, M Williams, Shepard
Engram, HH(ir)
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
J Allen , Herbert, Rivers
Kamara, B Hill, Akers,McNichols, Dillon, Cohen, McCoy
K Allen, Hopkins,McLaurin, AROB M Williams,MVS
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Teddy B, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Burkhead, Mostert, wilson jr
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans,AROB, C Davis, Watkins, Edleman, Higgins
Ertz, Gronk, Fant, everett, albert o


team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Baker, Wentz, Foles, K Allen
Kamara, Henry, Chubb, Bell, Murray, Coleman
M Thomas, K Allen, M Evans, JuJu, Cooper, Watkins
Hurst, Gronk, Ebron, Everett
Payne/Onyemata
Campbell, Ogbah, J Allen, Clowney, Armstead
Martinez, J Smith, Z Smith, Jack, Judon, C Jones (IR)
Alexander, Dean, Ward
Edmonds, Harris, Joseph, Delpit (IR)

IR1
Hall of Fame
Hall of Fame
Posts: 4190
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:16 am

Re: Moving Gronk

Postby IR1 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:40 am

As long as a move helps my team, I don't worry too much about who I'm trading with. I'd be very happy getting Adams and a 2nd for Gronk
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Wilson, Herbert
RB-Kamara, Mixon, Dobbins, Akers, DHarris
WR-Adams, Evans, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Harry
TE- Kelce, Fant, Goedert, Njoku
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, KClark
DE- JBosa, Watt, Barnett, Gross-Matos
LB- D Jones, Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner , Simmons, Evans
CB- Moore, Hill, Bradberry, Bless
S- Clark, HSmith, Johnson, Dugger
IR Hunter, Barkley
2021- 1st x 1

User avatar
joeday
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 16857
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 8:50 am
Location: Hail to Pitt!

Re: Moving Gronk

Postby joeday » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:15 am

If you can get Adams by himself for Gronk that would be a nice value. That said, you look to have a need at RB...any chance Gronk and Howard could buy one of his guys?
BERLIN BOMBERS
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – πŸ†
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – πŸ₯ˆ

14 teams | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB – Kyler Murray
RB – Christian McCaffrey
WR – Calvin Ridley | Michael Thomas
TE –


ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – πŸ†
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – πŸ₯ˆ
12 teams | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB – Deshaun Watson (or Tom Brady)
RB – Derrick Henry | Dalvin Cook | J.K. Dobbins | Alexander Mattison
WR – DeAndre Hopkins | Davante Adams | Calvin Ridley | Diontae Johnson
TE – Darren Waller
2021 Picks – 1.7 | 3.10 | 4.1 | 5.10 | 6.1 | 7.12 | 8.1 | 9.4 | 9.12 | 10.1

Joe Day's Dynasty|Keeper|Redraft Leagues

jwb32
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3081
Joined: Wed May 10, 2017 8:11 am

Re: Moving Gronk

Postby jwb32 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:22 am

I prefer Adams to Gronk straight up at this point in Gronk's career.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar
RBs- Cook, Sanders, CEH, Michel,Murray,Mattison,LPerine
WRs- Diggs, McLaurin, Golladay, Cooks, OBJ, Reagor,MWill, Crowder,Mooney
TEs-Waller, Fant
2.12, 3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson,Ryan,Darnold
RBs- Akers, Gaskin, Dallas, Kelley
WRs- DJM,Godwin,Diontae,Shenault,Samuel, Mooney, Harry, Devernay, Etc.
TEs- Hock, Bryant, Trautman
1.02,1.05,1.12,2.02,3.02,3.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Darnold
RBs- Cook, RoJo, Gaskin, DHarris, Penny, Murray, Snell
WRs- Allen, DJM, Julio, Boyd, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller,LThomas,Trautman
1.06, 1.08, 1.11, 2.12, 3.08

TroyH
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 319
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:13 pm

Re: Moving Gronk

Postby TroyH » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:45 am

joeday wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:15 am
If you can get Adams by himself for Gronk that would be a nice value. That said, you look to have a need at RB...any chance Gronk and Howard could buy one of his guys?
I like this move for your team as well. Especially if he is inclined to move Zeke.
10 team league, Non-ppr, Standard (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, WR/RB/TE)
QB: Rodgers
RB: Zeke, Taylor, Sanders, Mixon, J. Williams
WR: Hopkins, Ridley, OBJ, Jeudy, Pittman, Aiyuk, AJG, Shepherd
TE: Engram, H. Henry, Gronk, Tonyan
2021: 3rd, 4th, 5th

joeya2001
MVP
MVP
Posts: 2723
Joined: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:24 pm

Re: Moving Gronk

Postby joeya2001 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:55 am

Is the owner really going to be inclined to move big chip, he still has Engram, its not likes its a giant hold at TE.

personally if you can get one of his young WR, id call it a win.
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR 1TE, Super Flex, 2 Flex Spots. 10 Team Dynasty PPR

2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs

QB- Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson,
RB- David Johnson,Jeff Wilson Damian Harris, Lenard Forunette, AJ Dillion, Miles Gaskin,
WR- Mike Evans, Allen Robinson, Amari Cooper, Robert Woods, Calvin Ridley,DJ Chark, Michael Pittman
TE- George Kittle,Darren Waller, Jonnu Smith,

Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF

2020 3rd place Year 1

QB Joe Burrow, Kirk Cousins, Jalen Hurts
RB Zeke, Alvin Kamara, Aaron Jones, DeAndre Swift, Cohen, AJ Dillon
WR Deebo Samuel, Keenan Allen, Jarvis Landry, D.J. Chark Tee Higgins, Marvin Jones,
TE Tyler Higbee, Dallas Goedert,

β€œNot good enough to count on as a starter, but too good to drop, so they clog my bench.” dlf_mikeh

User avatar
Johnny Canuck
All Pro
All Pro
Posts: 1943
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:41 pm

Re: Moving Gronk

Postby Johnny Canuck » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:58 am

jwb32 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:22 am
I prefer Adams to Gronk straight up at this point in Gronk's career.
^this. Gronk has one foot into retirement, Adams is Rodgers #1 WR for the next 5+ yrs. Adams is worth more than Gronk. If you really wanted to get that done, try and move the pick to the Gronk side to make up for the youth.
Half pt ppr dynasty - start 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex

QB: Rodgers, Baker
RB: Ekeler, Gurley, David Johnson, Hunt, Sony, Mckinnon, Love, Guice
WR: AJB, Hilton, AJG, Hollywood Brown, Laviska, Antonio Brown, Washington, Renfrow
TE: Kittle, Gesicki

The Red Rooster
Player of the Year
Player of the Year
Posts: 2102
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:55 pm

Re: Moving Gronk

Postby The Red Rooster » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:09 am

I think if you are targeting Adams, you will have to move the 2nd rounder to the Gronk side. But if you can get Adams and a 2nd for Gronk, go for it.

User avatar
GridironGuerilla
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3055
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:43 pm
Location: Nor-Cal

Re: Moving Gronk

Postby GridironGuerilla » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:20 am

You don't have a TE listed as a required player in your lineup so I am runing with the assumtion that this isn't a typo.

I don't at all disagree here with the previous posters from the context of value and what is best for your team in the long run in a vacuum. From the perspective of wining this season as you mentioned that was a large part of the equation for you, from where I sit:

If you trade:
You will likely be flexing Adams and Ertz/Thomas/ARob in 2 flex spots.
You're opponent will be looking at flexing Gronkk and Green/Engram/Watkins in 2 flex spots.

If you don't trade:
You are looking at flexing Gronk and Ertz/Thomas/ARob in 2 flex spots.
He would likely be flexing Green/Engram/Watkins/Ajayi in two flex spots

The difference here is mostly on the part of your opponent in that second flex. I don't think that swapping out Gronk for Adams in your flex changes your bottom line a ton but you certainly win the trade for the future. However, now your opponent has a plug and play in Gronk and likely Green rather than having to choose between Engram/Watkins/Ajayi to fill his last flex spot.

Again, I will NOT argue the value is there on the Adams side, but if you are a serious contender, for the money this year, you hold and play Gronkowski until you no longer are. I just don't see this move benefiting your lineup THIS year but it certainly improves his.
Last edited by GridironGuerilla on Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:35 am, edited 3 times in total.
Bo Knows Dynasty (12 Team IDP/Roster-30/8 IR/8 Taxi)1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 2 LB, 2 DL, 2 DB
Requiem For a Team

Dragon Eggs Devy (14 Team IDP/Roster-53/10 IR/8 Taxi)1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 4 Flex QB/RB/WR/TE, 2 LB, 1 DT, 2 DE, 1 CB, 2 DB, 2 Flex
The Night's Watch

Marvel VS. DC (14 Team IDP/Roster-53/10 IR)
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex QB/RB/WR/TE, 1 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 2 S, 1 CB, 1 Flex

The Hulk

ThunderCats Dynatsty (12 Team IDP/PPR/Roster-55/8 IR)1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex RB/WR/TE, 1 SF QB/RB/WR/TE,2 DE, 2 LB, 2 S, 1 CB 2 Flex
Panthro

User avatar
Titans95
Hall of Fame
Hall of Fame
Posts: 4588
Joined: Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:47 pm

Re: Moving Gronk

Postby Titans95 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:26 am

Go get Adams, if you can get M. Williams instead of the 2nd then i'd try to do that but whatever you do don't lose the deal involving Gronk for Adams straight up. Great deal for you.


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], MyTeam, OhSnapItsAnt, rbphilly, Towman27, TrMc and 11 guests