Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy
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Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy
stefan lefors
brian brohm
ryan mallett
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lamar jackson
there is a common thread that ties this list together and it would scare the hell out of me if my team drafted Ljax or if I drafted him with high hopes .
brian brohm
ryan mallett
tyler wilson
brandon doughty
lamar jackson
there is a common thread that ties this list together and it would scare the hell out of me if my team drafted Ljax or if I drafted him with high hopes .
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Re: should lamar jackson fanboys be concerned
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Re: should lamar jackson fanboys be concerned
My bigger concerns are what coach he lands with in the nfl and his accuracy
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Re: should lamar jackson fanboys be concerned
None of them have first OR last names over 7 letters long...something to monitor for sure
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Re: should lamar jackson fanboys be concerned
Hey man, I've noticed you have a habit of doing this king of thing- getting concerned about a player because there have been a bunch of busts from the same school, or same conference, or same coach. I mean, the list of Tennessee QBs before Peyton Manning is Todd Helton, Heath Schuler, Andy Kelly, Sterling Henton, Jeff Francis, etc. I don't know if this makes any sense.clarion contrarion wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:11 am stefan lefors
brian brohm
ryan mallett
tyler wilson
brandon doughty
lamar jackson
there is a common thread that ties this list together and it would scare the hell out of me if my team drafted Ljax or if I drafted him with high hopes .
I'm not sure how your concern about Petrino QB's is different from your concern about USC WRs.
Most college football players are not good enough to play in the NFL. The majority of draft picks do not pan out. Just about everybody is going to have a bunch of recent players from their coach/school/conference who sucked because most college football players suck relative to the NFL. There are reasons to be concerned about Lamar Jackson, but Brian Brohm ain't one of them.clarion contrarion wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:07 am With the recent USC wr history in the league why is JUJU a lock in the top 4 ? His # look a lot like dwayne jarrett to me , both played 3 years at USC , jarrett 8 more catches 16 more TDs same YPC , JUJU lower market share , broad jump 1 inch difference. does JUJU 4.54 > 4.62 for jarrett . There is still time before the draft someone convince me he should be ranked ahead of godwin , westbrook , henderson or zay jones .
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They don't call him clarion contrarion for nothing! LolOhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:02 am Hey man, I've noticed you have a habit of doing this king of thing
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Re: should lamar jackson fanboys be concerned
I don't think anyone is drafting L Jackson and overly confident that he'll hit that Cam Newton/Mike Vick status. I'd say ppl are more likely to be in the 50/50 shot range with him, but if you like him, you gotta take a shot because that ceiling is sky high. The ultimate boom/bust NFL draft pick for QB.
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Josh Allen has already won this awardJohnny Canuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:19 am I don't think anyone is drafting L Jackson and overly confident that he'll hit that Cam Newton/Mike Vick status. I'd say ppl are more likely to be in the 50/50 shot range with him, but if you like him, you gotta take a shot because that ceiling is sky high. The ultimate boom/bust NFL draft pick for QB.
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Yep. Tim Couch fits that bill too. Ryan Leaf. Bust potential seems high.
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Re: should lamar jackson fanboys be concerned
I'm concerned that Jackson will bust. But then again, I feel that about every rookie.
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Re: should lamar jackson fanboys be concerned
The only thing that scares me about Jackson is 2 of his 3 years as a starting QB he had more rushing attempts than pass completions.
I get they ran alot of plays and that is good offense but he averaged almost 20 carries a game the past 2 seasons. How many NFL teams have used their QB1 like that successfully...I'll wait
I get they ran alot of plays and that is good offense but he averaged almost 20 carries a game the past 2 seasons. How many NFL teams have used their QB1 like that successfully...I'll wait
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Re: should lamar jackson fanboys be concerned
I'm drafting this kid every chance I get in Madden. In fantasy, his risk is still interesting enough for me to value him right behind Mayfield.
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That's a fair point, but it also doesn't mean he's going to be used that way in the NFL. By no means am I a Jackson apologist, but I do think he has a better chance at developing and being a good QB than someone like Josh Allen.maxhyde wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:34 am The only thing that scares me about Jackson is 2 of his 3 years as a starting QB he had more rushing attempts than pass completions.
I get they ran alot of plays and that is good offense but he averaged almost 20 carries a game the past 2 seasons. How many NFL teams have used their QB1 like that successfully...I'll wait
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Yeah no chance he is used that way in the NFL or he will have a short career as an NFL QB. So then the question becomes how effective of a passer is he if he isn't running every other play? As an NFL team what tape do you use to project him even because he really doesn't have a game where he stood in the pocket and beat a team. Anyway he is a complicated prospect to evaluate for me. Our closest comps are likely Mariota, Tebow (maybe) and Vick and none ran as much as Jackson in college. None of those guys picked up the intricacies of the NFL game very quickly as a passer either.Goddard wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:43 amThat's a fair point, but it also doesn't mean he's going to be used that way in the NFL. By no means am I a Jackson apologist, but I do think he has a better chance at developing and being a good QB than someone like Josh Allen.maxhyde wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:34 am The only thing that scares me about Jackson is 2 of his 3 years as a starting QB he had more rushing attempts than pass completions.
I get they ran alot of plays and that is good offense but he averaged almost 20 carries a game the past 2 seasons. How many NFL teams have used their QB1 like that successfully...I'll wait
I am a big Allen fan so you lost me there
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Re: should lamar jackson fanboys be concerned
That’s it right there. Boom or bust. This guy has some crazy talent and physical skills. You gotta take a shot if you like him.Johnny Canuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:19 am you gotta take a shot because that ceiling is sky high
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