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John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
According to Brown, the Cardinals used the sickle cell trait as an excuse until they found the actual culprit for what was ailing him, a cyst on his spine. Any positive fantasy ramifications from this news? Is it possible that he can be healthy for the full 2018? I know many of his injuries were leg related and due to his slight build, but if this is accurate, the sickle cell trait talk appears to have been overblown.
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Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
If you're looking to sell, I don't think this article will make a lot of difference in people's perception of him.
Until we actually see him performing and staying on the field I don't imagine you're going to net much for him. But hopefully he's accurate and will be relatively healthy moving forward.
Until we actually see him performing and staying on the field I don't imagine you're going to net much for him. But hopefully he's accurate and will be relatively healthy moving forward.
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Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
not buying. maybe after a full healthy year. Until then. No thanks
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Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
Haha not selling at this point, as I don't believe I will get any value in return from the high octane Flacco offense. Also, I like the guy.
FWIW, no one in my league is on this site. I just found this entire scenario a bit fishy. I wanted to see if people believe him here.
FWIW, no one in my league is on this site. I just found this entire scenario a bit fishy. I wanted to see if people believe him here.
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Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
Didn't we already know about the cyst on his spine? I thought this came out last year and it was taken care of, but I could be wrong.
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Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
I believe him. He can stay healthy for an entire season as he did in 2015. Unless sickle cell is something that develops over time, I would assume that he had the trait in 2015. 2016 he had the cyst and that's when they discovered the sickle cell trait. He pulled a hammy and those take a long time to heal (with or without sickle cell), and for a guy that relies on speed, it would make sense why he was ineffective last year. So really, you have one year he was healthy, one year he had a cyst, and another year where he had a concussion and a pulled hamstring. The cyst is a freak health thing. I wouldn't hold that against him. Concussions and pulled hamstrings are more concerning considering his small frame and style of play, but I wouldn't say he has a history of injuries. I've been holding since I drafted him, and I dont plan on selling, I really think he can be a WR1 as he's more than just a speed guy.
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Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
One of the issues I have with him other than injuries is that he was an "old" rookie to begin with and is already 27 years old. I think most people don't realize this about him. And even though that might not be that old, it's difficult for someone that age to finally breakout and become a WR1, and then maintain that kind of production for a long time. Add on the injuries, and he's an old 27 and not sure how much longer his body will hold up.
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Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
My main concern is that he's had limited success in a system that highlights the deep ball, which is his strength. He's now in Baltimore, which has been awful with the deep ball for years. Wallace was able to adapt his game and become a more rounded, but Wallace at his peak was also well beyond anything Brown has done. The team is also still looking at guys like Wallace and Meredith, either of which would likely push him to third on the chart and even if they don't sign either, it's not a great show of confidence that they're even looking.
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Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
at least he is healthier than ryan grant wink wink right ozzie ?
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Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
Carson Palmer made him look good, but so did Jaron Brown and JJ Nelson at times. But I was a believer and I gave up on him because of the sickle cell news. I will be looking to buy back in if the price is right.
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Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
I hope so. He needs to stretch the field so Crabtree can operate
Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
He's better than most give him credit for nowadays. I hung on to Gronk because people wrote him off and will hang on to this studly bastard because people don't look at talent on the field just "Breakout age" and "what have you done for me lately".
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Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
That ideal feeds me for years. Thank you.Goddard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:49 pm One of the issues I have with him other than injuries is that he was an "old" rookie to begin with and is already 27 years old. I think most people don't realize this about him. And even though that might not be that old, it's difficult for someone that age to finally breakout and become a WR1, and then maintain that kind of production for a long time. Add on the injuries, and he's an old 27 and not sure how much longer his body will hold up.
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Re: John Brown - do we believe him? Can he actually be in for a healthy 2018?
CK,
I don't know how you can possibly compare Gronk to John Brown. There's no comparison in terms of production. They don't play the same position and that's relevant in a TE mandatory league, and one of the players has produced at the pinnacle of his position while the other has not.
I haven't seen a large contingent of fantasy players dismissing Gronk lately, although some owners are worried that he'll bolt for the WWE or other entertainment opportunities. Still, this is apples and oranges. John Brown has played well in spurts, as many NFL players have. If you believe this is the moment that John Brown emerges from his injury lined cocoon to become an amazing WR1 and the apple of Joe Flacco's eye then good luck to you.
I don't see that as remotely likely, and think you're wasting a roster spot. Time will tell.
I don't know how you can possibly compare Gronk to John Brown. There's no comparison in terms of production. They don't play the same position and that's relevant in a TE mandatory league, and one of the players has produced at the pinnacle of his position while the other has not.
I haven't seen a large contingent of fantasy players dismissing Gronk lately, although some owners are worried that he'll bolt for the WWE or other entertainment opportunities. Still, this is apples and oranges. John Brown has played well in spurts, as many NFL players have. If you believe this is the moment that John Brown emerges from his injury lined cocoon to become an amazing WR1 and the apple of Joe Flacco's eye then good luck to you.
I don't see that as remotely likely, and think you're wasting a roster spot. Time will tell.
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