BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

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BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

BigBen
14
70%
1.12
6
30%
 
Total votes: 20

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BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:33 am

Pretty simple. In a Vacuum who do you like?
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06

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Re: BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby Edgy68 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:52 am

That is pretty simple. In a superflex, most any starting QB is worth more than a late stab at a rookie. Ben still has a few years, so he should command more value.
Wasteland
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, B. Hall, D. Henry, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson, M. Sanders, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP
WR AJ Brown, J. Chase, C. Lamb, C. Ridley, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN

Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, B. Mayfield, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
1.03, 2.03, 2.06, 3.05, 4.06

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Re: BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby jeffster » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:15 am

Poll needs an "even" option, because it feels about right to me.

Big Ben if I'm a QB away from contending. 1.12 otherwise.

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Re: BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby Madadamus » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:42 am

I saw him moved for Tyrell Williams and the 2.01 so I think that’s around his range. The annual retirement talk will always suppress his value which probably means he’s a buy.
12 Team PPR Dynasty - DLFS
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 QB/RB/WR/TE, 1 TE
QB: J. Burrow, M. Stafford, C. Wentz
RB: S. Barkley, D. Swift, J.K. Dobbins, C. Edwards-Helaire, R. Penny, G. Edwards, K. Drake
WR: T. Higgins, M. Evans, B. Aiyuk, C. Watson, K. Toney, M. Thomas, C. Ridley, C. Davis, J. Reagor
TE: D. Waller, E. Engram, H. Hurst, D. Njoku, G. Dulich, J. Akins
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 2nd (mid), 3rd, 4th, 4th (mid)

12 Team PPR Dynasty
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 QB/RB/WR/TE, 1 TE
QB: J. Herbert, M. Stafford, J. Winston, D. Lock, M. Mariota, J. Stidham, R. Fitzpatrick
RB: C. McCaffrey, A. Kamara, E. Elliott, J. Dobbin, J. Mixon, A. Mattison, J. White, L. Bell
WR: D. Moore, J. Jeudy, O. Beckham Jr., C. Claypool, C. Davis. D. Parker, L. Fitzgerald, B. Perriman, W. Snead
TE: E. Engram, C. Kmet, C. Herndon, K. Warring
2021 Picks: 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10

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Re: BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby Kramer » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:50 am

A pretty fair value given the number of QBs that could go high in the NFL draft this year. Deciding factor would be team situation.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds

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Re: BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:09 am

ben
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby RB6 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:26 am

Ben. With Haley gone, we won't be hearing retirement talks for a couple years.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Tyrod
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, AD, Pearsall, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Wicks, Flournoy, Boyd, Walker, Thrash, Washington, Whittington
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Moss, Dillon, Gore, Watson
Andrews, Kmet, Bell

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF +.5TEP
Stroud, Caleb, Daniels, Cousins
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Spears, Rodriguez, Watson, Davis
St. Brown, MHJ, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Odunze, Doubs, Pearsall, Baker, Washington, Cowing, Thrash, Flournoy
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Schoonmaker

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Re: BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby harr » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:25 am

jeffster wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:15 am Poll needs an "even" option, because it feels about right to me.

Big Ben if I'm a QB away from contending. 1.12 otherwise.
This. I’d pay that for Ben if I’m a QB away from being a strong contender. Otherwise, I’d much rather have the 1.12.
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Re: BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby Goddard » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:14 am

Ben if you're competing, the pick if not.

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Re: BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby bigbuck22 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:03 am

This should easily be Ben to anyone making a push in the next few years. If you're not close, you shouldn't be buying him at all unless the value is insane.
12 Team Superflex; RB: .25PPC, 1PPR, WR: 1.25PPR, TE:1.5PPR
Start (10) 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Superflex, 4FLEX

QB: Watson, Tagovailoa, Maye, Minshew, Rattler, Garopollo, Winston, Dobbs, S Bennett, T Hill
RB: Hall, Walker, A Jones, K Miller, Corum, M Lloyd, Ford, Spiller, Tucker, Sermon, Schrader
WR: Chase, Lamb, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Harrison Jr, R Rice, Ridley, Palmer, Iosivas, Cowing
TE: McBride, Engram, Kraft, Otton

2023 Champ
2025 2nd 3rd
2026 2nd 3rd 3rd

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Re: BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:59 pm

To update this, I am in the midst of a rebuild and there for agree that he doesn't make sense for my team at 1.12, but I countered with 2.09 and 2.11 and the owner accepted almost immediately. I feel like at that price I couldn't go wrong.

Gives me now a lineup of
Starting Requirements: 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1sflex
Mariota/Ben
LF/Mixon/Barkley
Nuk/Evans/MJones
Ertz/Henry
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06

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Re: BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby jeffster » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:28 pm

pokerplayer1000 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:59 pm To update this, I am in the midst of a rebuild and there for agree that he doesn't make sense for my team at 1.12, but I countered with 2.09 and 2.11 and the owner accepted almost immediately. I feel like at that price I couldn't go wrong.

Gives me now a lineup of
Starting Requirements: 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1sflex
Mariota/Ben
LF/Mixon/Barkley
Nuk/Evans/MJones
Ertz/Henry
Completely agree, two late 2nds was not something you could pass on, regardless of situation. If anything, just hold him and try to flip mid season to a contender.

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Re: BigBen or 1.12, Superflex

Postby hockeyBjj » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:46 am

pokerplayer1000 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:59 pm To update this, I am in the midst of a rebuild and there for agree that he doesn't make sense for my team at 1.12, but I countered with 2.09 and 2.11 and the owner accepted almost immediately. I feel like at that price I couldn't go wrong.

Gives me now a lineup of
Starting Requirements: 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1sflex
Mariota/Ben
LF/Mixon/Barkley
Nuk/Evans/MJones
Ertz/Henry
1) Big Ben for 2 2nds in a superflex is an absolute steal. Fantastic job

2) that's not a team in the midst of a rebuild, that's a scary young championship contending team. 2018 and 2019 should be very good for you. See if you can get a WR3 improvement with your 1.12 and that's a team I wouldn't want to play against any week.
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Achane, Dobbins, Algier, trash
WR: Nabers, Tank Dell, Addison, Shaheed, Thomas Jr. McConkey, K Coleman, JSN, QJ, S Jameson Williams, Corley, Polk, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, Juwan, Musgrave, Theo Johnson
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2025 1,1,1,1,2,3,4,5
2026- 1,2,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2027


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