Thielen value

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Thielen value

Postby darewood11 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:10 am

Sent out an offer for team 1 in sig where I trade thielen for 1.04. Wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this

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Re: Thielen value

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:44 am

i do that, especially if i need rb. thielen is solid though but i think thats a strong enough offer to ship him off. heck even if you wanna go wr you probably get the #1 wr of the class at 1.04
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Thielen value

Postby saw061600 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:27 am

Doubt it gets accepted. Thielen is wicked undervalued.
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
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Re: Thielen value

Postby hockeyBjj » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:35 am

That's what it would take me to move Thielen, so I think its even and depends on what the rest of your team looks like

Your team needs a bit of work, and I think it'd be smart as then you get either a top back, or the #1 WR of the class. Someone else can use Thielen to shore up their team if they're more set
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: Thielen value

Postby hockeyBjj » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:36 am

saw061600 wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:27 am Doubt it gets accepted. Thielen is wicked undervalued.
I think this finally, finally changed 2nd half of the season. I was seeing polls that had Thielen ranked above Diggs. I traded Thielen week 4, when I thought he was just on a nice hot stream and wouldn't keep it up, for a late first that ended up being 1.8 and I get that rubbed in my face like it was a big steal by him
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: Thielen value

Postby RB6 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:04 am

Early 1st. So the 1.04 is the low end of his value. Could get accepted.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst

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Re: Thielen value

Postby HughHoney » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:11 am

RB6 wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:04 am Early 1st. So the 1.04 is the low end of his value. Could get accepted.
Agree with this. If I’m contending and/or need WR, I prefer Thielen. If rebuilding and/or need RB, I might take the pick.

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Re: Thielen value

Postby Goddard » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:31 am

I'd take the 1.04, but seems like fair value.

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Re: Thielen value

Postby Needalife » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:56 am

With uncertainty around QB situation, I would sell Thielen for 1.07 or better and buy for 1.08 or later at the moment. I might slide that back after landing spots and combine risers are established.

I love Thielen's game but I felt like Bradford favors Diggs/Rudolph, Bridgewater favors Diggs and Keenum favors Thielen. I'm skeptical that the Vikes retain Keenum.
14 TM / Devy / SuperFlex / TEP
1 Q / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 SF / 3 F / 1 DT / 2 DE / 3 LB / 2 CB / 2 S / 1 F


QB: Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, James Conner, Trey Benson, Jaylen Warren, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
S: Derwin James, Talanoa Hufanga, Kareem Jackson
DEVY: RB Nick Singleton PSU
2024 DEVY DEPLETED PICKS: 1.11, 1.13, 2.03, 2.05, 2.13, 3.01, 3.07, 3.10, 3.12, 4.03, 4.11, 4.15, 5.01, 5.02

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Re: Thielen value

Postby RestoreTheRoar » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:04 pm

It's probably a fair trade. Would just be a matter of how you feel about your ability to draft. You know what you're getting with Thielen. Most drafts aren't like last years. This class looks pretty good but you just never know with rookies.
12 Team 0.5 PPR. 25 man roster. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex.
QB - Russell Wilson, Matt Stafford
RB - Leondard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey, Jamaal Williams, Chris Carson, CJ Prosise
WR - Keenan Allen, Davante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Mike Williams, Kenny Golladay, Chirs Godwin, Keelan Cole, Quincy Enunwa
TE - Zach Ertz, Eric Ebron, Austin Seferian-Jenkins

2018 Picks - 1.01, 2.04

16 Team 0.5 PPR. 20 man roster. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex.
QB - Marcus Mariota, Trevor Siemian
RB - Leonard Fournette, Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Williams, Alex Collins
WR - AJ Green, TY Hilton, Donte Moncrief, Davante Adams, Will Fuller, Malcolm Mitchell, Kenny Golladay
TE - Austin Hooper, Austin Seferian-Jenkins, George Kittle

2018 Picks - None

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Re: Thielen value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:29 pm

RestoreTheRoar wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:04 pm It's probably a fair trade. Would just be a matter of how you feel about your ability to draft. You know what you're getting with Thielen. Most drafts aren't like last years. This class looks pretty good but you just never know with rookies.
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The 1.04 is fair, both sides of this deal should feel good about it.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Thielen value

Postby The.Big.Spank » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:33 pm

Goddard wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:31 am I'd take the 1.04, but seems like fair value.
This, but it's hard for me to see him being a consistent WR2 because he is a slot receiver and on the field for only 60% of the plays. Also Diggs was injured a bit this year which may have helped his target share. I don't think you will ever see him as a WR1 ever again. Giving up the 1.4 for a slot receiver on a run first team seems a touch steep, but like Goddard says, seems like fair value.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: Thielen value

Postby Motay316 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:50 pm

I feel like 1.04 is good value, I have thielen and would hate to move him for a lottery ticket but I think Thielen has reached his ceiling, it's probably a good idea to cash out at this point. To go from a guy that was probably picked up off the free agent wire to getting the 1.04 for him is pretty good return on investment.
Team A-1 Pt PPR, 1 Pt per 10yds rec, rushing, 1 Pt 30 yds passing, 6 Pts per TD, 2 pts per tackle
QB-Rodgers, Lawrence, Tannehill
RB-CMC, Henry, Kamara, Patterson, Mattison
WR-Waddle, Lamb, Godwin, Aiyuk, Thomas,
TE-Andrews, Engram, Njoku, Smith Jr., Henry
K-
DL-Leonard, Wilkins, Buckner
LB-Wagner, Werner, Leonard
DB-Buddah Baker, Jamal Adams, Harrison Smith, White

Team B-1 Pt PPR, 1 Pt per 10yds rec, rushing, 1 Pt 30 yds passing, 6 Pts per TD, 2 pts per tackle
QB-A. Richardson, Rodgers, L. Jackson, Love
RB- Conner, McGlaughlin
WR-Chase, Kupp, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Kirk, Dotson
TE-Ferguson, Higbee
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LB-David, Hendricks, CJ Mosely, Holecomb
DB- Baker,

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Re: Thielen value

Postby HughHoney » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:52 pm

The.Big.Spank wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:33 pm
Goddard wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:31 am I'd take the 1.04, but seems like fair value.
This, but it's hard for me to see him being a consistent WR2 because he is a slot receiver and on the field for only 60% of the plays. Also Diggs was injured a bit this year which may have helped his target share. I don't think you will ever see him as a WR1 ever again. Giving up the 1.4 for a slot receiver on a run first team seems a touch steep, but like Goddard says, seems like fair value.
This just isn’t true. Thielen was on the field for 93% of the Vikings offensive snaps. He played more snaps than Diggs in every week they both played except week 14 when Diggs had one more snap.

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Re: Thielen value

Postby jwb32 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:23 pm

Thielen had 143 targets.....that is an elite level number. I just don't see that as sustainable. I'd value him in 1.07-1.08 range.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)


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