Thoughts on Mark Andrews

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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby gunzwil guinea pigs » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:30 pm

never draft a TE 1st round
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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby jman3134 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:08 pm

What about OJ Howard last year?
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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby gunzwil guinea pigs » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:41 am

jman3134 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:08 pm What about OJ Howard last year?
Its all about opportunity cost, so even with OJ Howard you could get a lot of great RBs maybe WRs ahead of him and could snack an other TE later on (Njoku, Everett, Kittle, Jonnu,..)
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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:31 am

jman3134 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:08 pm What about OJ Howard last year?
You could probably get Howard for cheaper than his draft price a summer ago. The only TE whose price is higher than his draft price right now is Evan Engram.

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Mark andrews

Postby darewood11 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:49 pm

Any of you scouts care to share your thoughts on andrews. I personally think he could be a top 1p fantasy te going forward depends on landing spot

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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby btv802 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:59 am

Phaded wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:48 pm Don't bother drafting TEs; you'll be able to buy low when they predictably start their career slow.
I don't really see any of the 2017 TEs losing much value yet. Assuming you think it's going to happen in year three? FWIW I just swapped Njoku for Mike Williams.
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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby guyatwork37 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:56 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:31 am
jman3134 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:08 pm What about OJ Howard last year?
You could probably get Howard for cheaper than his draft price a summer ago. The only TE whose price is higher than his draft price right now is Evan Engram.
People say this, but I haven't encountered owners who sour on TEs after a year. They all hold knowing that it takes three years. So if you don't draft them, it's not like you can get them cheap, you'll just defer the cost to another year.

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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby IBall2 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:38 pm

guyatwork37 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:56 am
Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:31 am
jman3134 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:08 pm What about OJ Howard last year?
You could probably get Howard for cheaper than his draft price a summer ago. The only TE whose price is higher than his draft price right now is Evan Engram.
People say this, but I haven't encountered owners who sour on TEs after a year. They all hold knowing that it takes three years. So if you don't draft them, it's not like you can get them cheap, you'll just defer the cost to another year.
An owner in my league drafted Engram and Njoku last year even though he already has Gronk and Henry at TE in a standard scoring league. I've thrown a few offers at him throughout the season for either Engram/Njoku/Henry and he wont except anything less than a 1.07 for any of the TEs. Safe to say their price hasn't dropped in my league.

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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby DJB » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:51 pm

Id easily pay 1. 07 for one of Engram or Gronk if that's what I'm reading IBall
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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby Bot101 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:43 pm

IBall2 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:38 pm
guyatwork37 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:56 am
Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:31 am

You could probably get Howard for cheaper than his draft price a summer ago. The only TE whose price is higher than his draft price right now is Evan Engram.
People say this, but I haven't encountered owners who sour on TEs after a year. They all hold knowing that it takes three years. So if you don't draft them, it's not like you can get them cheap, you'll just defer the cost to another year.
An owner in my league drafted Engram and Njoku last year even though he already has Gronk and Henry at TE in a standard scoring league. I've thrown a few offers at him throughout the season for either Engram/Njoku/Henry and he wont except anything less than a 1.07 for any of the TEs. Safe to say their price hasn't dropped in my league.
Id give 1.07 for Engram.

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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby TheEastWest » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:53 am

Phaded wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:48 pm Don't bother drafting TEs; you'll be able to buy low when they predictably start their career slow.
What kind of leagues draft a TE early and then trade at a discount after 1-2 years .. Maybe in Mom and pops beer league but any good dynasty league understands you can’t expect TE 1 numbers right out of the gate and seasoned owners don’t just sell low but I see this expectation posted almost daily..
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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby Snake » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:04 pm

I don’t think you need to worry about your leaguemates drafting him at 1.07/1.08 if they have Graham and Evans. I’d sit tight and snag him in the 2nd round if you really want him.

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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:10 pm

There isn't an Engram or Njoku in this class. No 2018 TE deserves to be drafted in the 1st round of a rookie draft, unless we see a HUGE riser over the next 3 months (which we could, but I doubt it)
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby ravn88 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:50 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:10 pm There isn't an Engram or Njoku in this class. No 2018 TE deserves to be drafted in the 1st round of a rookie draft, unless we see a HUGE riser over the next 3 months (which we could, but I doubt it)
A few months later and the have just that.

Not enough to be 1. Round, but Mike Geiscki and the Dallas Goerth has done well for them Self during this offseason.
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

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QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
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RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
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Re: Thoughts on Mark Andrews

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:05 pm

ravn88 wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:50 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:10 pm There isn't an Engram or Njoku in this class. No 2018 TE deserves to be drafted in the 1st round of a rookie draft, unless we see a HUGE riser over the next 3 months (which we could, but I doubt it)
A few months later and the have just that.

Not enough to be 1. Round, but Mike Geiscki and the Dallas Goerth has done well for them Self during this offseason.
We certainly have some risers! I've been consistently hearing negative film review on Gesicki from a variety of smart folks, basically saying he's just the ultimate workout warrior.

Goedert, on the other hand, appears to be almost the opposite: a very sound TE prospect who is a total unkown in terms of athletic testing.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
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BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
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KITTLE, Goedert
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MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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