thoughts on john ross?

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thoughts on john ross?

Postby hjernazian » Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:55 am

team that John Ross is pretty atrocious, he is looking to rebuild next year with two first rounders (one his, hence the incentive to tanking - no penalties for this in our league). Take a look at my sig, I've made multiple deals with this owner before, landing me D. Freeman and H. Henry (traded away), what package of players can I offer? I'm thinking maybe D. Murray, Ty Montg, OR Njoku straight up.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:04 am

He had a lot of hype coming out of Washington and he may not be able to live up to it. Give it time though he could pan out.
Current Rebuild:
10 Team PPR 1 QB, 1-2 RB, 2-3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB, WR, TE, 1 K, 1 Def/St
QB: Baker Mayfield, Ben Roethlisberger
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Jk Dobbins, Salvon Ahmed, Jerrick McKinnon, Damien Williams, Sony Michel, Marlon Mack, JJ Taylor, Lynn Bowden
WR: Jerry Juedy, Henry Ruggs, Russell Gage, Sterling Shepard, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Dameire Byrd, Colin Johnson, Devin Duvernay, Josh Reynolds, Anthony Miller
TE: Zach Ertz, Mike Geisicki, Dawson Knox
K: Justin Tucker
Def: Tampa Bay, Seahawks

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby hjernazian » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:36 am

ThatGuyBrian wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:04 am
He had a lot of hype coming out of Washington and he may not be able to live up to it. Give it time though he could pan out.
where do you equate his value with the "IF" though? He can be had for relatively cheap imo, but what's cheap? I'm thinking a high 3rd rounder? Or for a D. Murray or James White?
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby RBlivesmatter » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:42 am

hjernazian wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:55 am
team that John Ross is pretty atrocious, he is looking to rebuild next year with two first rounders (one his, hence the incentive to tanking - no penalties for this in our league). Take a look at my sig, I've made multiple deals with this owner before, landing me D. Freeman and H. Henry (traded away), what package of players can I offer? I'm thinking maybe D. Murray, Ty Montg, OR Njoku straight up.
Weren’t there reports they might make him into a CB?
Team1 est2017
10 team QB3WR2RBTE2FLX
QB- Rivers, Mariota, Jimmy G, Rosen
RB- Gurley, Hunt, Drake, Henry, Howard, RoJo, McKinnon, ware, Ajayi
WR- Cooks, Jarvis, Miller, Kirk, Shepard, Patrick
TE- Reed, Eifert, Gesicki, Herndon
2019: 2.6 2.7 3.1

Team2 est2018
8 team PPR - 2QB3WR3RBTE2FLX
QB- Wilson, Cousins, Rosen, Allen, Foles
RB- Melvin, Shady, Howard, D.Freeman, Edwards, Collins, Duke, Coleman, Gore, Hunt, ekeler
WR- MT, Tate, Fitz, Humphries, Doctson, Kirk, Agholor, Wilson, Washington
TE- Kelce , Trey, Henry
2019- 1.3 1.8 2.1 2.3 3.3 4.3

Team3 est.2019
12 team QB2WR2RBTE2FLX
QB- Arodg, Mitch, Ljax
RB- Chubb, Guice, Hunt, D.Freeman, Yeldon, Samuels
WR- Julio, Tate, Miller, Funchess, Washington, Reynolds, Patrick
TE- Kelce, Hooper
2019: 1.7 2.4 2.8 2.10

Team4 est.2019
12 team QB2WR2RBTE2FLXKDEF
QB-Arodg, Winston
RB- Conner, Ingram, Lamar, Rojo
WR- Nuk, Keenan, Baldwin, Tate, Crowder, Josh Gordon, Wilson
TE- Engram, Gesicki, Hurst
K-
DEF-
2019: 1.1 1.5

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby SpartyOn » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:17 am

The outlook for players that can't even get on the field is not good. I would prefer every player you named above over Ross.

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:52 am

hjernazian wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:36 am
ThatGuyBrian wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:04 am
He had a lot of hype coming out of Washington and he may not be able to live up to it. Give it time though he could pan out.
where do you equate his value with the "IF" though? He can be had for relatively cheap imo, but what's cheap? I'm thinking a high 3rd rounder? Or for a D. Murray or James White?
In a league I am in a guy just traded a late second for him. If I were trading from him I wouldn't give anything higher than a third for him.
Current Rebuild:
10 Team PPR 1 QB, 1-2 RB, 2-3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB, WR, TE, 1 K, 1 Def/St
QB: Baker Mayfield, Ben Roethlisberger
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Jk Dobbins, Salvon Ahmed, Jerrick McKinnon, Damien Williams, Sony Michel, Marlon Mack, JJ Taylor, Lynn Bowden
WR: Jerry Juedy, Henry Ruggs, Russell Gage, Sterling Shepard, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Dameire Byrd, Colin Johnson, Devin Duvernay, Josh Reynolds, Anthony Miller
TE: Zach Ertz, Mike Geisicki, Dawson Knox
K: Justin Tucker
Def: Tampa Bay, Seahawks

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby BeeziBad » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:06 am

you could trade any of those guys you mentioned for someone much better, who actually gets playing time. if you're stuck on ross, trade any of those guys strait but make sure to get a decent pick added. don't cheat yourself.
The Mega Powers - 12Team - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLEX/1K - 1PPR
QB - R. Tannehill, T. Bridgewater
RB - J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, C. Akers, Z. Moss, R. Jones, R. Armstead, M. Davis, C. Edmonds
WR - J. Jeudy, H. Ruggs, T. Higgins, L. Shenault, C. Claypool, J. Reagor, C. Davis, J. Washington, B. Aiyuk, Q. Cephus, KJ Hamler, A. Lazard
TE - C. Herndon, D. Sample
Picks - 2021 - 1, 1, 1

Jabroni Beaters - 10Team - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLEX/1K - NONPPR
QB - P. Mahomes B. Mayfield
RB - S. Barkley, E. Elliott, JK Dobbins, A. Peterson, M. Breida, D. Freeman
WR - T. Hill. AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Jefferson, J. Edelman, B. Aiyuk, L. Shenault, JJAW, B. Edwards
TE - Z. Ertz, H. Hurst, J. Smith

SuperSonics - 10Team - 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX/1K - .5 PPR
QB - S. Darnold, R. Tannehill, C. Newton
RB - E. Elliott, N. Chubb, D. Cook, R. Jones, A. Peterson
WR - T. Hill, O. Beckham, D. Metcalf, C. Davis, H. Renfrow, R. Cobb
TE - Z. Ertz, E. Engram, H. Henry, J. Smith, K. Rudolph
Picks - 2020 - 2.7
2021 - 2, 3

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby BradysBunch » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:13 am

There are players I just stay away from. Ross is one of them.
10 team / 28 man rosters
2015/2017/2019 Champ
SF/PPR
QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex/SF
Mahomes/Murray/Winston/Haskins/Trubisky
CMAC/CEH/Mixon/Harris
Hopkins/Thomas/DJM/Woods/Lamb/Chark/B. Edwards/P.Williams/Campbell/AB
Kelce/Hurst

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby jman3134 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:38 am

Marvin Lewis is back again. Therefore John Toss.
12 team, 35 man rosters, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Baker Mayfield, Drew Brees, Matthew Stafford
Rb: Saquon Barkley, Austin Ekeler, Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Matt Breida, Cam Akers, Chase Edmonds, David Johnson, D'onta Foreman
Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Julio Jones, AJ Green, Laviska Shenault, Julian Edelman, Diontae Johnson, John Brown, Keelan Cole, Darnell Mooney, Jalen Guyton, Travis Fulgham, Jakobi Meyers, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Richie James, Cam Sims, Dezmon Patmon
Te: George Kittle, Darren Waller, Dan Arnold, Donald Parham
K: Jason Sanders
D: Baltimore Ravens
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby McCloskey22 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:30 am

I would equate John Ross to a piece of garbage you find on the side of the road
12 team league - 1/2 ppr, 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (WR/RB/TE)


QB - Dak Prescott , Alex Smith, Sam Darnold
RB - Ezekiel Elliott , Carlos Hyde , James White, TY Montgomery, Ronald Jones
WR - Mike Evans , Davante Adams , Dez Bryant, Robby Anderson, Zay Jones, Courtland Sutton
TE - Hunter Henry, Tyler Eifert, Rico Gathers, RSJ

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby hjernazian » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:40 am

McCloskey22 wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:30 am
I would equate John Ross to a piece of garbage you find on the side of the road
lol, seems unanimous. I don't like Lewis and I like the Bengals overall even less. Just was thinking may be nice to land him for cheap, but there are other candidates for that.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby Goddard » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:45 pm

I definitely wouldn't move Njoku for him, but if you can get him for Murray and Monty, that would be a pretty solid deal.

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby block2323 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:12 am

Ross is not someone I would be targeting...he's overrated imo just because he ran a fast 40 time. Wonder where I have seen that over blown before...
12 Team, .5 PPR, 9 Keepers, 21 Man Roster + 2 IR Spots
Start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, 1K, 1 Def

QB: T. Brady
RB: D. Johnson, N. Chubb, L. Fournette, C. Hyde, I. Smith, M. Davis
WR: OBJ, T. Hill, K. Allen, C. Kupp, D. Pettis, E. Sanders, D. Hamilton, R. Foster, J. Crowder, T. Patrick
TE: O. Howard, D. Goedert, C. Herndon
Def: Jax
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2019: 1.02, 2.01, 2.09, 3.02, 4.03, 4.05, 4.12
2020: 1st (x2), 2nd (x1), 3rd (x1), 4th (x2)

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby gunzwil guinea pigs » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:23 am

I would pay a late 2nd or I would give up demarco straight up
2QB-Dynasty - 10 Team standard scoring - 30man roster
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, K, D/ST

QB: Joe Burrow, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Philipp Rivers, Marcus Mariota, Jalen Hurts
RB: Joe Mixon, Le'Veon Bell, Joshua Kelley, Rashaad Penny, Matt Breida, Lynn Bowden Jr., Ryquell Armstead
WR: Calvin Ridley, Stefon Diggs, Terry McLaurin, TY Hilton, Jarvis Landry, CeDee Lamb, Robert Woods, Mike Williams, Marvin Jones, N'Keal Harry, Denzel Mims, JJ Arcega-Whiteside
TE: Zach Ertz, Drew Sample, Dalton Schultz, Irv Smith
K: Matt Prater
D/ST: TB, GB

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Picks 2021: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby skip » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:29 pm

This is a very interesting thread as a year ago I felt I was one of the lone voices who felt Ross was extremely overrated and viewed his future solely as a special teams player.
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