2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby Triton85 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:32 am

Prelim mock drafts I've seen have Barkley going to San Fran... I am not sure how I feel about that, as Hyde would definitely eat into his work load... this would all depend on Hyde resigning or not, but either way Saquon goes 1.01. Heck, if he goes to the Browns I think it might be better even. I have 2 mid firsts that I am considering offering for the 1.01 at the end of the season to try to lock this up

Next RB off the board they have is Guice going to the Patriots, again I really don't like it. I'd take a late first round flyer on this but don't think I'd go 1.02 on him. I've liked Chubb and I think he's done well following the injury

Ridley is interesting, a lot of teams at the high end of the draft need WR help (Browns, Bears, possibly Dolphins) - I think he's top 5 worthy

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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby KCLep20 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:02 pm

Triton85 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:32 am Prelim mock drafts I've seen have Barkley going to San Fran... I am not sure how I feel about that, as Hyde would definitely eat into his work load... this would all depend on Hyde resigning or not, but either way Saquon goes 1.01. Heck, if he goes to the Browns I think it might be better even. I have 2 mid firsts that I am considering offering for the 1.01 at the end of the season to try to lock this up

Next RB off the board they have is Guice going to the Patriots, again I really don't like it. I'd take a late first round flyer on this but don't think I'd go 1.02 on him. I've liked Chubb and I think he's done well following the injury

Ridley is interesting, a lot of teams at the high end of the draft need WR help (Browns, Bears, possibly Dolphins) - I think he's top 5 worthy
If they plan to draft Barkley, they will not re-sign Hyde. They will be happy to roll out Barkley and have Breida back him up.
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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby DJB » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:18 pm

Its Barkley and not even close. My guess is hes in the conversation for top 3 RB in a startup by end of next season
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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby psu007 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:47 pm

So for those with the 1.01, with my picks below, what would it take to get.

1.03, 1.04, 1.05, and late first, right now 1.11.
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WR - OBJ, Robinson, K.Allen, C.Davis, Allsion, M.Bryant, C.Coleman, Moncrief, P.Richardson, Chark
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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby maxhyde » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:01 pm

1.03/1.04 probably maybe more if the guy like Guice more than most and thinks drop-off is after 1/2
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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby psu007 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:03 pm

maxhyde wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:01 pm 1.03/1.04 probably maybe more if the guy like Guice more than most and thinks drop-off is after 1/2
And I'd probably send that. Would you turn down 1.04, 1.05, and 1.11?
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RB - Gurley, Ingram, Coleman, Clement, Booker, Rawls, Samuels
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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby maxhyde » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:04 pm

psu007 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:03 pm
maxhyde wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:01 pm 1.03/1.04 probably maybe more if the guy like Guice more than most and thinks drop-off is after 1/2
And I'd probably send that. Would you turn down 1.04, 1.05, and 1.11?
Today I probably would but only because some guy loaded with WR's will give up a top 10 guy for that pick come draft time
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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby MikeHoncho » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:32 pm

Just watched some tape on the top RBs in the class; Barkley is 1.01 and it isn't even close IMO. If he was added to last year's draft I would put him at 1.01 there too based solely on college tape.

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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby collbey » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:43 am

psu007 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:03 pm
maxhyde wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:01 pm 1.03/1.04 probably maybe more if the guy like Guice more than most and thinks drop-off is after 1/2
And I'd probably send that. Would you turn down 1.04, 1.05, and 1.11?
Right now Guice and Chubb are close for me so if traded the 1st would look to go no further than the 3rd pick.

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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby cazzie33 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:08 am

Barkley over Guice but not overwhelmingly. As stated earlier situation could sway me to choose Guice over Saquon... and " I'm just mad about Saquon ...and he's just mad about me"

Call me Mellow Yellow and quite not right. Slick ... maneuvering to fit the needs of your team dictates what's the worth of trading out of the 1.01 spot.

I'm sitting on 1.02 with Kamara,Mixon,McCoy and Crowell plus Cohen & Ekeler in full PPR league. Solid WR's but no top 5 types . Tyreek, Funchess, R. Anderson, Marvin, Parker, Golladay. Could easily trade pick in a pkg for proven young stud WR .

This year traded Cooks & A. Rob for a mass of picks plus R. Anderson & Tyreek knowing that I could get Kamara late first, Cohen late. Lucked out getting the pick that turned out being 2018 1.02.

Point being that last year the 1.02 (Mixon for us) had great long term value for an orphaned 1-12 team. Cook @ 1.05 was very good value but we had him rated even with Kamara for a PPR lg based on situation. Added Tyreek to move down to 1.09 .

Looking ahead to 2018 coming off 8-5 record and leading the lg in points scored our needs are entirely different. Adding one more elite player rather than volume for depth changes what we'd want in return. Plus the top 4 RB's last year in PPR were extremely difficult to separate for a long term value. Fournette was only slightly ahead for immediate returns because of the Jags desire to pound the rock and play to their defense. Mixon talent long term we like better but knew it would be a struggle with the Bungles line woes.

We're hoping like someone mentioned earlier that a wr stacked team drafting late will want to acquire a stud RB . There's no clear cut stud WR in the draft. I'd take C.Davis over anyone in this draft. I like Golladay as much as anyone draft. So if a M.Evans, Keenan, Hopkins ,etc...were to come available for the pick plus one of our WR's we'd do it.

If in a total rebuild I wouldn't trade out of the top two unless it was totally ridiculous offer. Getting a great foundation piece to build around is worth more than 3 or 4 usable pieces of which one or two might be busts. If Saquon or Guice excel in first season as Gurley did their value will only increase. I've gotten crazy good offers for Kamara the last couple of weeks. M. Thomas and a 2018 mid first yet turned it down because we are trying to win championship. After season we might entertain the offer again. Saquon could get the same

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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby John Paul » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:45 pm

Currently sitting at 1.02, 1.05 and 1.08 with a week to go...
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RB: Jonathan Taylor(Trade '21), ETN(trade '22), Breece Hall(1.02 '22), Deon Jackson (WW '23), Michael Carter (trade '23)
WR: Drake London (Trade '23), Jahan Dotson (Trade "23), Allen Robinson (Trade '22), Brandin Cooks (Trade '23), John Metchie III(2.02 "23), Rondale Moore(Trade '21), Kyle Philips(4.05 '22), Curtis Samuel (Trade '23)
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2024: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
2025: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2

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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby Sasquatch » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:08 am

psu007 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:03 pm
maxhyde wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:01 pm 1.03/1.04 probably maybe more if the guy like Guice more than most and thinks drop-off is after 1/2
And I'd probably send that. Would you turn down 1.04, 1.05, and 1.11?
Id take that. Can pick up a WR, RB and QB

The only person that has 2 firsts in my league has 1.07 and 1.12. If he had another first I would probably do it

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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby Toltec » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:33 am

Sasquatch wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:08 am
psu007 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:03 pm
maxhyde wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:01 pm 1.03/1.04 probably maybe more if the guy like Guice more than most and thinks drop-off is after 1/2
And I'd probably send that. Would you turn down 1.04, 1.05, and 1.11?
Id take that. Can pick up a WR, RB and QB

The only person that has 2 firsts in my league has 1.07 and 1.12. If he had another first I would probably do it
I'd take 4, 5, and 11

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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby chopping mall » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:38 pm

which would you rather 1.01 or OBJ?
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Re: 2018 Rookie Draft Pick 1.1

Postby dynastyninja » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:24 pm

chopping mall wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:38 pm which would you rather 1.01 or OBJ?
OBJ because he is the dynasty 1.01. Saquon will likely be late 1st startup.


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