Stefon Diggs Thread: Traded to Buffalo!
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Re: Diggs value
If you can afford to not start Diggs because you're upset with him, then you'll probably win the Ship anyway. Cuz that means your team is LOADED
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HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
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Re: Diggs value
True lucky, Most line ups / depending on starting requirements, may be forced to at least start Diggs as their #3, or even #4 depending again on starting requirements. I too will be starting him as my wr#3 in one league - and, I'll be hoping for some upside. I'm kinda mad at him too, but, I'll just have to deal with that and let it go.
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Re: Diggs value
Didn't he just beat Josh Norman a couple weeks ago?joeylitz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:22 am I’m getting upset with Diggs. There’s been a lot of excuses made for him over the last few weeks. I’m starting to think he only excels when NOT going against a high end corner - which makes him no longer a must start. Thoughts?
And if you agree, how does this bode for him on Thursday against Detroit?
Thielen had a great matchup that the Vikes had to take advantage of. Even the announcers were calling it out before every pass play where the Rams backup corner was and that was where the Vikes should attack.
Re: Diggs value
Nah - I have Diggs in two leagues and both are 7-4. Both are capable of winning but not sure things.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:47 am If you can afford to not start Diggs because you're upset with him, then you'll probably win the Ship anyway. Cuz that means your team is LOADED
One is just a 10 Team redraft which starts only 2WRs and no flex. I have Baldwin starting opposite Diggs. If I sit Diggs, it would be for Marvin Jones
The other is my dynasty (starts 3 WRs and a flex). If I sat Diggs, it would also be for Jones
Both Jones and Diggs seem to have similar floors/ceilings and Jones has been a stud in 4/5 games scoring 18-29 pts in PPR. So perhaps the better question is, how can I afford to sit Jones anymore?
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Re: Diggs value
You should go back and watch the Washington game, where he made Josh Norman look dumb. Norman came away impressed:joeylitz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:22 am I’m getting upset with Diggs. There’s been a lot of excuses made for him over the last few weeks. I’m starting to think he only excels when NOT going against a high end corner - which makes him no longer a must start. Thoughts?
And if you agree, how does this bode for him on Thursday against Detroit?
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As far as the Rams game, Thielen had a better matchup in the slot. Diggs played well, but didn't get the big plays in that one. I think you should be concerned if Diggs is not playing well, but he still is. As we've seen with Julio Jones and others in the past, playing well doesn't always equal a ton of fantasy points each game.
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Re: Diggs value
Thielen is really, really good, but I'd have a hard time betting on him long-term over Diggs. It's not just that Diggs has upside, he's also really good right now. Thielen has definitely taken over as the primary WR for Keenum. He has at least 8 targets in eight straight games. But, I don't equate that to Diggs disappearing, as much as Thielen getting better matchups and taking over while Diggs missed a few games.Phaded wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:12 am Diggs & Thielen remind me a lot of Coop & Crab when it comes to fantasy.
This community loves the younger receiver who has shown promise and has "upside" but often disappears but the community is much lower on the 1b receiver who is arguably the more reliable fantasy asset.
The difference with Cooper and Diggs is that Cooper is still being treated as the primary option, isn't producing and has regressed as a football player. Diggs hasn't regressed in ability or skill, though he's been on the cusp of that true breakout for a few seasons. I think he's a definite stud at this point. You don't do what he does without being one. But, he's more of a 2nd Tier WR, with other players who are on the edge of completely showing out.
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Re: Diggs value
I just think that we won't ever see consistent elite production out of Diggs. The talent is evident, but it's not happening consistently enough to make him elite. I'd sell for first or second round startup value if I owned him.
Re: Diggs value
Jones with a TD and ~50 yds at the half. Diggs with 22 rec yds.joeylitz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:31 pmNah - I have Diggs in two leagues and both are 7-4. Both are capable of winning but not sure things.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:47 am If you can afford to not start Diggs because you're upset with him, then you'll probably win the Ship anyway. Cuz that means your team is LOADED
One is just a 10 Team redraft which starts only 2WRs and no flex. I have Baldwin starting opposite Diggs. If I sit Diggs, it would be for Marvin Jones
The other is my dynasty (starts 3 WRs and a flex). If I sat Diggs, it would also be for Jones
Both Jones and Diggs seem to have similar floors/ceilings and Jones has been a stud in 4/5 games scoring 18-29 pts in PPR. So perhaps the better question is, how can I afford to sit Jones anymore?
Really wish I just listened to myself and sat Diggs for Jones.
Can’t wait to hear the excuses this week.
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Re: Diggs value
Watching the game right now, it's pretty clear Keenum prefers Theilen to Diggs. Diggs is being utilized almost like a big play threat (a la Brandin Cooks) whereas Theilen is the target hog w/ big play potential. Diggs is simply a WR2 going forward in my eyes. I'm not so sure I'd even put him above Marvin Jones at this point.
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Re: Diggs value
Maybe now is a buy low from a panicking owner.
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Re: Diggs value
His last 3 games in a PPR have been 17.8, 7.2, 12.5 points. Why would someone panic?
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He's not made the jump this year like some owners have been hoping. Worth offering a 1st for him to see.Oddball456 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:44 pmHis last 3 games in a PPR have been 17.8, 7.2, 12.5 points. Why would someone panic?
Re: Diggs value
I traded for him mid-season and he certainly hasn't been what I hoped for....
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Re: Diggs value
While I agree that owners shouldn't panic, I am not suprised if some are. Owners are often fickle and expect instint elite status. Some of the concerns listed earlier in this thread include health and inconsistency have continued this season. It's also frustrating that Thielen is currently the target monster in the offense. Both Thielen and Rudolph have totaled more points over the past three games than Diggs and Keenum is playing great and Minnesota is winning.
To be honest, the only advanced stats that do not look great for him are Opportunity at the moment. It's the wrong time to be selling. https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/stefon-diggs/
To be honest, the only advanced stats that do not look great for him are Opportunity at the moment. It's the wrong time to be selling. https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/stefon-diggs/
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