Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

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Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby xNiCkBx » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:35 pm

I got a offer of a mid first round pick for my Josh Gordon....it was a easy accept for me...just want to double check with you all and get some feedback.

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Team 1: 12 Team PPR

QBs - Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott
RBS - Nick Chubb, Tarik Cohen, D’Onta Foreman, Giovani Bernard, Samaje Perine, Kenneth Dixon, Justin Jackson
WRs - Antonio Brown, DeAndre Hopkins, T.Y. Hilton, Marqise Lee, Christian Kirk, David Moore
TEs - Hunter Henry, Delanie Walker, CJ Uzomah, Mike Gesicki,
DST - Buffalo
K - Will Lutz

Team 2: 12 Team PPR IDP

QBs - Ben Roethlisberger, Andy Dalton, Derek Carr, Dwayne Haskins
RBs - Ezekiel Elliot, James Conner, Peyton Barber, Doug Martin, Chris Thompson, CJ Anderson, Bryce Love, Justin Jackson
WRs - Odell Beckham Jr, Stefon Diggs, Jarvis Landry, Tyrell Williams, Tyler Lockett, Antonio Callaway
TEs - Austin Hooper, T.J. Hockenson, Rob Gronkowski
K - Justin Tucker
DE - JJ Watt, Melvin Ingram
LB - Darius Leonard, Tremaine Edmunds, Christian Kirksey, Myles Jack,
S - Reshad Jones, Clayton Geathers, Johnathan Abram

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby gogobradyarm » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:39 pm

Probably 90% of people on here are going to say you just won the trade in a landslide. It all depends on the level of risk you want to take. A mid 1st has a 40% chance of producing a top 24 season at least once in their career. Now those aren't great odds, but the odds of a drug abuser returning to their old ways is actually higher. With that said, i'm taking the bet on Gordon, knowing damn well that if he stays clean, he will easily be a top 24 talent.
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12 Team - PPR - 29man (2 IR) - 6pt PPTD- 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 Flex - 1 TE

QB: Rodgers, Wilson
RB: Zeke, Conner, Chubb, Hunt, Kerryon, Cook, Aaron Jones, Guice
WR: Nuk, Adams, Hill, Diggs, Corey Davis, Metcalf, A.J. Brown, Watkins, Valdes-Scantling
TE: Engram, Njoku, Goedert, Ian Thomas, Waller

2020: 3x 1st, 2x 2nd, 3x 3rd

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby Dusticlez1 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:40 pm

Yeah, we cant expect the Gordon of Christmas past...nicely done! Id trade Gordon for any 1st and be happy....
12 Team-DEVY-SuperFlex-Tiered PPR
QB: Brees/Mariota/Mayfield
RB: Drake/Yeldon/Hines
WR: Hopkins/Landry/Juju/Funchess/Sutton/Garcon/Goodwin/Lockett/Boyd/J’mon/AJ Brown/N’Keal
TE: Rudolph/Andrews/Shaheen/Clay/Watson
Picks: All 2019 picks

12 Team-SuperFlex-Non-PPR
QB: Wilson/Brees/Rosen
RB: Hunt/Ingram/Ajayi//CJA/Monty/Clement/Ware
WR: AJG/Fitz/TY/Cobb/Kirk/AMiller/Pryor/Kearse
TE: Watson/Vernon/Jesse
Picks: 2019 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 4th

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby ravn88 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:45 pm

Damn..

Nicely done, who did you trade him to ? Josh Gordon himself :-)
Team 1:

12 players starting: 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes and Dak
RB: M. Gordon, M. Ingram, J. Mixon, A. Jones, TY
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones K. Allen, D. Parker, M. Jones, M. Crabtree, Dorsett and Meredith
TE: E. Engram ,J. Cook, Trey Burton, W Dissly and Rickey-SJ

Picks; without 2019 1st & 2nd and 2020 2nd

Team 2:

QB: Carson Wentz, Jared Goff & Josh Allen
RB: K. Hunt, Barkley, R. Penny, D. Guice, S. Perine & Smallwood
WR: M. Thomas, C. Davis, JuJu, K. Golladay, A. Cooper, J. Ross, Pettis, Tre'Quan & M. Harries
TE: Njoku, OJ Howard, ASJ & M. Andrews

Its a 12 players with 1 QB, 3 RB, 5 WR, 2 Flex 26 Keepers..

2019 without 1st, 2nd and 4rnd
2020 draft 2 1st, 2 x 3th, 2 x 4th

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby ESKAY » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:55 pm

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby flashgordon12 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:07 pm

Give me the Gordon side
Flash in the Pan: 12 team PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1DEF) 25 man rosters

QB- Andrew Luck, Josh Allen
RB- MGIII, Mixon, Cohen, Devonta Freeman
WR- AB, Odell Beckham Jr., Josh Gordon, Tyler Boyd, Marqise Lee, Sutton, MVS
TE- Gronk, Higbee
DEF- Denver

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby Suhmdog » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:32 pm

I have gordon and if pick isn't earlier than 8 I keep him. But I also like to gamble and I feel he is a gamble at this time

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby Goddard » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:08 pm

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby TB3falcons » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:29 pm

I turned down an offer of a late 1st in a 16 team league (basically an early 2nd in average leagues). Rather take the chance on Gordon than hope I land the next DJ with 30% odds at best.
16 Team PPR(.5 for RBs)/RetY/Balanced IDP League (QB,RB,2WR,TE,4FLX,PK,PN,DT,2DE,3LB,2CB,2S,1DFLX)
QB- Mahomes, Ryan
RB- Gordon, Ingram, Gore, Martin, Smallwood, Anderson
WR- Hopkins, KAllen, Lockett, Golladay, MJones, Edelman, Fitz, Cobb, Humphries, Conley, David Moore, Gordon :boohoo:
TE- Njoku, Ian Thomas, Oliver
PK- Butker
PN- Cooke
DT- CJones, Ogunjobi, Jackson
DE- Hunter, DLaw, Quinn, Hayes, CHarris, Turay, Collier
LB- Littleton, Mosley, D. Davis, Schobert, Bush, Walker, QWilliams, Beckwith, Ragland, Fort, E. Lee
CB- Bouye, DJackson, Callahan, Murphy
S- JJ3, Swearinger, Williams, Watts, Walker, Rapp,
2020: 2 1s, 4, 5, 2 6s, 2 7s, 2 8s
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby HughHoney » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:56 am

gogobradyarm wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:39 pm
A mid 1st has a 40% chance of producing a top 24 season at least once in their career.
Curious where this stat came from. 40% chance for a mid 1st at their position? Overall? Feel like my hit rate with draft picks is way higher than this. I mean at least once in their career?
12 Team, 24-man Roster, 3-man TS, PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 DEF

QB: Wilson, Luck, Finley
RB: Da Johnson, Kamara, Gordon, J White, Hines, Samuels, Gio, Love, C Edmonds
WR: OBJ, Cooper, Kupp, Watkins, Pettis, Coutee, Deebo Samuel, Diontae Johnson, A Miller, K Harmon, Funchess, John Brown, D Thomas, J Meyers
TE: Kittle, Graham, Waller
DEF: KCC

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby Samhain34 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:21 am

Fair trade. Gordon has superstar potential but this is a deep draft. I'm not exactly in love with your WRs, so time will tell.
The Max Fischer Players Orphan rebuild - year three (Superflex)
1-2 QB 1-6 RB 1-6 WR 1-6 TE PPR 12-team 24 on roster 2 IR spots.

QB: C. Wentz, M. Ryan, B. Mayfield, N. Foles
RB: M. Gordon, A. Jones, T. Cohen, I. Smith, P. Barber
WR: M. Thomas, K. Allen, D. Westbrook, C. Sutton, A. Isabella, A. Wilson, C. Rogers, J. Kumerow, D. Moore, G. Jennings, C. Coleman
TE: N Fant, R. Seals-Jones, Jonnu Smith, M. LaCosse
No Kicker or DEF
2020: Round 1 and 3 picks.

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby RB6 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:21 am

Easily the 1st.
HughHoney wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:56 am
gogobradyarm wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:39 pm
A mid 1st has a 40% chance of producing a top 24 season at least once in their career.
Curious where this stat came from. 40% chance for a mid 1st at their position? Overall? Feel like my hit rate with draft picks is way higher than this. I mean at least once in their career?
This stat sounds completely made up.
Team 1
10 Team Devy SF .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Wilson, Watson, Rivers, Tannehill, Lock, Hill
WR: MT, Diggs, Woods, Boyd, Shepard, Dede, Hamilton, Deebo, Zay, Meyers
RB: Barkley, Lindsay, Ingram, Henderson, Justice, Armstead, Dexter
TE: Andrews, Thomas
Devy: Swift

Team 2
12 Team .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 2Flex
QB: Watson, Darnold
WR: Nuk, AB, Kupp, Lockett, Shepard, Tate, MVS, Hamilton, Higgins, Morgan, A. Tate
RB: Zeke, Jacobs, Duke, Singletary, AP, Darwin, Crowell, Hilliard, Trayveon, Armstead, Barnes, Ozigbo, Scarlett
TE: Andrews, Herndon, Oliver

Team 3
12 Team SF PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Rodgers, Carr, Teddy, Tannehill, Hill, Rypien
RB: Chubb, D. Freeman, Hunt, Singletary, Ito, Lewis, Thompson, Hilliard, Crockett, Scarlett
WR: Allen, Kupp, Boyd, Dede, Tate, Crowder, Hamilton, Lee
TE: Ebron, Thomas, Graham

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby Kramer » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:36 am

RB6 wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:21 am
Easily the 1st.
HughHoney wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:56 am
gogobradyarm wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:39 pm
A mid 1st has a 40% chance of producing a top 24 season at least once in their career.
Curious where this stat came from. 40% chance for a mid 1st at their position? Overall? Feel like my hit rate with draft picks is way higher than this. I mean at least once in their career?
This stat sounds completely made up.
It sounds roughly correct to me based on historical data. Here's an article on it: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/7 ... raft-picks. They only look at the entire round in the article, so it's not a mid 1st specifically, but for the entire 1st round, the success rate (which is defined as a top 12 QB/TE season or a top 24 WR/RB season) is just less than 1 in 2.

As for the OP, I would take the 1st unless it was guaranteed to be late. As a Gordon owner myself, I want to at least see him on the field once before doing anything with him for any 2nd.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,2WR,TE,Flex,SF,K,Def (30 spots)
QB: Winston,Dak,Dalton,Foles
RB: Fournette,Barkley,Mixon,Guice,Chubb,Foreman,Collins,Joe Williams,Yeldon,Scarborough
WR: Nuk,Davis,CoCo,JMatt,Doctson,Treadwell,Tyrell,Richardson
TE: Ertz,Eifert,Hooper,Everett,Shaheen,Burton,Butt

10 team SF PPR-QB,2RB,3WR,2TE,Flex,SF,2IDP,K,Def (35 spots)
QB: Rodgers,Wilson,Luck, Smith
RB: Fournette,McCoy,Mixon,Foreman,Martin,Powell,Conner,Collins
WR: Nuk,Hilton,Alshon,ARob,Davis,Tate,Gordon,MikeWilliams,Doctson,Kupp,Godwin
TE: Graham,Olsen,Henry,Howard,Everett,Kittle,Burton,Gathers
IDP: Bowmann,Burfict,Lee

28 team PPR SF, x2 copy, 0.2 PPC, 1.5PPR for TE - 1QB/1RB/1WR/1TE/5Flex/1SF (22+4IR+6Taxi)
QB: Wentz,Luck,Brissett
RB: Bell,Dixon,Gillislee,AP,Joe Williams,Perkins,Kelley
WR: Nuk,Hilton,ARob,Watkins,Decker
TE: Howard,Reed,Brate

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby skip » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:27 pm

Historical success of picks in the top half of the first round are 50% so the number isn't far off at all. But frankly, I wouldn't give Gordon a percentage close to that high of success moving forward either. Any 1st round pick is worth more than Gordon.
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby block2323 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:35 pm

I personally would take Gordon here but I also think Gordon is going to be a solid WR moving forward. I would definitely be willing to take the risk of Gordon who we have seen perform in the NFL without a QB over an uncertain rookie pick. If you feel good about it that's all that matters.
12 Team, .5 PPR, 9 Keepers, 21 Man Roster + 2 IR Spots
Start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, 1K, 1 Def

QB: T. Brady
RB: D. Johnson, N. Chubb, L. Fournette, C. Hyde, I. Smith, M. Davis
WR: OBJ, T. Hill, K. Allen, C. Kupp, D. Pettis, E. Sanders, D. Hamilton, R. Foster, J. Crowder, T. Patrick
TE: O. Howard, D. Goedert, C. Herndon
Def: Jax
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2020: 1st (x2), 2nd (x1), 3rd (x1), 4th (x2)


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