Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
I got a offer of a mid first round pick for my Josh Gordon....it was a easy accept for me...just want to double check with you all and get some feedback.
For Team 2 in my Sig.
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Team 1: 12 Team PPR
QBs - Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott
RBS - Nick Chubb, Devin Singletary, Giovani Bernard, Justin Jackson, Darrell Henderson
WRs - DeAndre Hopkins, T.Y. Hilton, DJ Moore, Christian Kirk, Zach Pascal, Russell Gage, Antonio Brown
TEs - Hunter Henry, Mike Gesicki, Delanie Walker
DST - Buffalo
K - Will Lutz
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QBs - Deshaun Watson, Derek Carr, Dwayne Haskins
RBs - Ezekiel Elliot, James Conner, Devin Singletary, Benny Snell, Zack Moss, Anthony McFarland, Bryce Love
WRs - Odell Beckham Jr, Stefon Diggs, Tyler Locket, Tyrell Williams, Breshard Perriman, Kenny Stills
TEs - Rob Gronkowski, Tyler Higbee, T.J. Hockenson
K - Justin Tucker
DE - Chase Young, Josh Allen, JJ Watt
LB - Darius Leonard, Tremaine Edmunds, Eric Kendricks
S - Von Bell, Johnathan Abram, Jeremy Chinn
QBs - Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott
RBS - Nick Chubb, Devin Singletary, Giovani Bernard, Justin Jackson, Darrell Henderson
WRs - DeAndre Hopkins, T.Y. Hilton, DJ Moore, Christian Kirk, Zach Pascal, Russell Gage, Antonio Brown
TEs - Hunter Henry, Mike Gesicki, Delanie Walker
DST - Buffalo
K - Will Lutz
Team 2: 12 Team PPR IDP
QBs - Deshaun Watson, Derek Carr, Dwayne Haskins
RBs - Ezekiel Elliot, James Conner, Devin Singletary, Benny Snell, Zack Moss, Anthony McFarland, Bryce Love
WRs - Odell Beckham Jr, Stefon Diggs, Tyler Locket, Tyrell Williams, Breshard Perriman, Kenny Stills
TEs - Rob Gronkowski, Tyler Higbee, T.J. Hockenson
K - Justin Tucker
DE - Chase Young, Josh Allen, JJ Watt
LB - Darius Leonard, Tremaine Edmunds, Eric Kendricks
S - Von Bell, Johnathan Abram, Jeremy Chinn
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
Probably 90% of people on here are going to say you just won the trade in a landslide. It all depends on the level of risk you want to take. A mid 1st has a 40% chance of producing a top 24 season at least once in their career. Now those aren't great odds, but the odds of a drug abuser returning to their old ways is actually higher. With that said, i'm taking the bet on Gordon, knowing damn well that if he stays clean, he will easily be a top 24 talent.
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12 Team - PPR - 30man (2 IR) - 6pt PPTD- 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 Flex - 1 TE
QB: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dowdle, Zach Evans, Dobbins
WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Otton
2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 3x 1st
Champ: 2020, 2021
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RB: McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dowdle, Zach Evans, Dobbins
WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
Yeah, we cant expect the Gordon of Christmas past...nicely done! Id trade Gordon for any 1st and be happy....
12 Team-DEVY-SuperFlex-Tiered PPR
QB: ARod/Geno/JimmyG
RB: Gibbs/Hines
WR: AJB/Hopkins/StBrown/Kirk/Dotson/Juju/Lockett
TE: Kelce/Kmet/Knox
12 Team-SuperFlex-Non-PPR
QB: Lamar/JimmyG/Baker
RB: JT/Javonte/Sanders/Pacheco
WR: AJB/Diggs/Kirk/Jameson/Cooks
TE: Hock/Dulcich
QB: ARod/Geno/JimmyG
RB: Gibbs/Hines
WR: AJB/Hopkins/StBrown/Kirk/Dotson/Juju/Lockett
TE: Kelce/Kmet/Knox
12 Team-SuperFlex-Non-PPR
QB: Lamar/JimmyG/Baker
RB: JT/Javonte/Sanders/Pacheco
WR: AJB/Diggs/Kirk/Jameson/Cooks
TE: Hock/Dulcich
Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
Damn..
Nicely done, who did you trade him to ? Josh Gordon himself
Nicely done, who did you trade him to ? Josh Gordon himself
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ 2020 third place
QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ 2020 third place
QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
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QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
Give me the Gordon side
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QB- Andrew Luck, Josh Allen
RB- MGIII, Mixon, Cohen, Devonta Freeman
WR- AB, Odell Beckham Jr., Josh Gordon, Tyler Boyd, Marqise Lee, Sutton, MVS
TE- Gronk, Higbee
DEF- Denver
QB- Andrew Luck, Josh Allen
RB- MGIII, Mixon, Cohen, Devonta Freeman
WR- AB, Odell Beckham Jr., Josh Gordon, Tyler Boyd, Marqise Lee, Sutton, MVS
TE- Gronk, Higbee
DEF- Denver
Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
I have gordon and if pick isn't earlier than 8 I keep him. But I also like to gamble and I feel he is a gamble at this time
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
I turned down an offer of a late 1st in a 16 team league (basically an early 2nd in average leagues). Rather take the chance on Gordon than hope I land the next DJ with 30% odds at best.
16 Team PPR(.5 for RBs)/RetY/Balanced IDP League (QB,RB,2WR,TE,4FLX,PK,PN,DT,2DE,3LB,2CB,2S,1DFLX) 2018 & 2019 LC
QB- Mahomes, Ryan
RB- Gordon, Ingram, Swift, Gore, Hyde, Ogunbowale
WR- Hopkins, KAllen, Lockett, Golladay, Fitz, Edelman, MJones, Crowder, Cobb, Claypool, AGG, Miller (CHI), Humphries, Conley, David Moore, Demarcus Robinson, Gordon
TE- Olsen, Ian Thomas, Njoku
PK- Butker
PN- Cooke
DT- CJones, Ogunjobi, Kinlaw
DE- Hunter, DLaw, Young, Anderson, Turay
LB- Littleton, Mosley, D. Davis, Schobert, Bush, AJ Johnson, Walker, Evans, Burgess
CB- C Davis, Ward, Murphy-Bunting
S- JJ3, Walker, Williams, Rapp, Parks
Taxi: Oliver, Laird, Collier, Cominsky, Phillips, JAXWilliams, Harris, Willis
QB- Mahomes, Ryan
RB- Gordon, Ingram, Swift, Gore, Hyde, Ogunbowale
WR- Hopkins, KAllen, Lockett, Golladay, Fitz, Edelman, MJones, Crowder, Cobb, Claypool, AGG, Miller (CHI), Humphries, Conley, David Moore, Demarcus Robinson, Gordon
TE- Olsen, Ian Thomas, Njoku
PK- Butker
PN- Cooke
DT- CJones, Ogunjobi, Kinlaw
DE- Hunter, DLaw, Young, Anderson, Turay
LB- Littleton, Mosley, D. Davis, Schobert, Bush, AJ Johnson, Walker, Evans, Burgess
CB- C Davis, Ward, Murphy-Bunting
S- JJ3, Walker, Williams, Rapp, Parks
Taxi: Oliver, Laird, Collier, Cominsky, Phillips, JAXWilliams, Harris, Willis
Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
Curious where this stat came from. 40% chance for a mid 1st at their position? Overall? Feel like my hit rate with draft picks is way higher than this. I mean at least once in their career?gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:39 pm A mid 1st has a 40% chance of producing a top 24 season at least once in their career.
Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
Fair trade. Gordon has superstar potential but this is a deep draft. I'm not exactly in love with your WRs, so time will tell.
Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
Easily the 1st.
This stat sounds completely made up.HughHoney wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:56 amCurious where this stat came from. 40% chance for a mid 1st at their position? Overall? Feel like my hit rate with draft picks is way higher than this. I mean at least once in their career?gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:39 pm A mid 1st has a 40% chance of producing a top 24 season at least once in their career.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee
PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington
PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee
PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington
PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst
Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
It sounds roughly correct to me based on historical data. Here's an article on it: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/7 ... raft-picks. They only look at the entire round in the article, so it's not a mid 1st specifically, but for the entire 1st round, the success rate (which is defined as a top 12 QB/TE season or a top 24 WR/RB season) is just less than 1 in 2.RB6 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:21 am Easily the 1st.
This stat sounds completely made up.HughHoney wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:56 amCurious where this stat came from. 40% chance for a mid 1st at their position? Overall? Feel like my hit rate with draft picks is way higher than this. I mean at least once in their career?gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:39 pm A mid 1st has a 40% chance of producing a top 24 season at least once in their career.
As for the OP, I would take the 1st unless it was guaranteed to be late. As a Gordon owner myself, I want to at least see him on the field once before doing anything with him for any 2nd.
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QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
Historical success of picks in the top half of the first round are 50% so the number isn't far off at all. But frankly, I wouldn't give Gordon a percentage close to that high of success moving forward either. Any 1st round pick is worth more than Gordon.
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st
I personally would take Gordon here but I also think Gordon is going to be a solid WR moving forward. I would definitely be willing to take the risk of Gordon who we have seen perform in the NFL without a QB over an uncertain rookie pick. If you feel good about it that's all that matters.
12 Team, .5 PPR, 9 Keepers, 21 Man Roster + 2 IR Spots
Start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, 1K, 1 Def
QB: T. Brady
RB: D. Johnson, N. Chubb, L. Fournette, C. Hyde, I. Smith, M. Davis
WR: OBJ, T. Hill, K. Allen, C. Kupp, D. Pettis, E. Sanders, D. Hamilton, R. Foster, J. Crowder, T. Patrick
TE: O. Howard, D. Goedert, C. Herndon
Def: Jax
K:
2019: 1.02, 2.01, 2.09, 3.02, 4.03, 4.05, 4.12
2020: 1st (x2), 2nd (x1), 3rd (x1), 4th (x2)
Start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, 1K, 1 Def
QB: T. Brady
RB: D. Johnson, N. Chubb, L. Fournette, C. Hyde, I. Smith, M. Davis
WR: OBJ, T. Hill, K. Allen, C. Kupp, D. Pettis, E. Sanders, D. Hamilton, R. Foster, J. Crowder, T. Patrick
TE: O. Howard, D. Goedert, C. Herndon
Def: Jax
K:
2019: 1.02, 2.01, 2.09, 3.02, 4.03, 4.05, 4.12
2020: 1st (x2), 2nd (x1), 3rd (x1), 4th (x2)
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