Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

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Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby j_thunda_ » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:54 pm

Fellow DLF'ers, need help on this one! Should I make this trade? I've owned Melvin since day one and I thought this was going to be his year, but what I'm seeing is starting to really concern me. His ypc is dismal. He looks the part, but wondering if can make the next step.

-I give up: Melvin Gordon, Hunter Henry, J Matthews & 2020 2nd round pick

-I receive: T. Kelce, S. Diggs, and a 1st round pick next year (likely too halve)

I have anther owner waiting in the wings willing to give me a 1st next year and 2nd (maybe 2020 1st) for Kelce. This would give me two 1st round picks in next years draft. Likely one to be top 3.

My Squad:
QB: Wentz/Wilson/Geoff
WR: Watkins/C.Davis/Cooper/Fuller/Z. Jones
RB: Gordon, Cook, Mcaffrey, Carson, Foreman, J.Stewert, Joe Williams
TE: Henry, Engram
DEF: Panthers
k: Vinny

I feel like I can still compete with out Gordon and this gives me considerable boost going into next year and my current TE.

Thoughts?
Team 1
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1 W/R
1PPR, 12 Teams, 20 Roster Spots

QBs: C. Wentz, J. Garoppolo, L.Jackson
RBs: S. Barkley, L. Bell, C. McCaffrey, C. Carson, D. Foreman
WRs: OBJ, J. Gordon, J. Landry, C. Davis, S. Watkins, C. Sutton, S. Diggs, JuJu Smith Schuster, C. Godwin
TEs: Travis Kelce, Njoku
Def: Ravens
K: Boswell

2019 Picks: 3
2020 Picks: 1, 2, 4
2021 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby Slackalacker » Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:00 pm

Well that definitely leaves you vulnerable at TE, although I expect Engram to be the highest producer this year out of all the Rookie TEs

You have some solid young backs but Gordon is pretty young himself. I don't really think you come ahead from the initial trade. Also I'm not sure if I'd give up Kelce for a first and second after I got him since he is in my mind the best dynasty TE (doesn't get hurt like gronk does)

Also I'm wary of trading for a pick 3 years in advance unless the league is very well established.

Overall I don't feel very excited about the trade. You lose some solid young players for picks that could end up being nothing. Seems high risk minimal reward to me.
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QB: Wilson - Wentz - Tua - Hurts - Eason
RB: Zeke - Mixon - Sanders - Davis - Pollard - Hill - Barkley(IR) - Coleman(IR)
WR: MThom - Godwin - DJM - Hollywood - Jefferson - Higgins - Pittman - Edwards - Mims - Scott Miller - Ross - Campbell(IR)
TE: Engram - Hock - Njoku

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QB: Wentz - Brees - Rivers
RB: CMC - Sanders - JT - Gaskin - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Bowden - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby j_thunda_ » Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:07 pm

That's sort of my thoughts too. I was sort of excited tmwith the idea of having another two picks In the first round next year with what I see on the horizon.

Would you recommend doing the Kelce trade and holding off on the second or no trade at all?

Kelce is a nice piece and I'd think a 1st and Kelce is solid return on Gordon. Idk..
Team 1
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1 W/R
1PPR, 12 Teams, 20 Roster Spots

QBs: C. Wentz, J. Garoppolo, L.Jackson
RBs: S. Barkley, L. Bell, C. McCaffrey, C. Carson, D. Foreman
WRs: OBJ, J. Gordon, J. Landry, C. Davis, S. Watkins, C. Sutton, S. Diggs, JuJu Smith Schuster, C. Godwin
TEs: Travis Kelce, Njoku
Def: Ravens
K: Boswell

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2020 Picks: 1, 2, 4
2021 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby vbbish » Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:33 pm

I personally dont mind the first trade.

Gordon/Matthews/Henry= Kelce/Diggs
1st>2nd

I would absolutely not make the 2nd trade and would hold Kelce... I would loathe to lose Hunter Henry though and would try and get him pumped about Engram after a good game on Monday night
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QB: L. Jackson, Brees
RB: Gurley, M. Gordon, R. Penny, M. Ingram, T. Cohen, D. Montgomery, JT, Dillon
WR: Hopkins, Godwin, AJG, Boyd, Diggs, J. Brown
TE: Ertz, E. Engram, Kmet
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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby brooklynkid » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:28 pm

I would take the first offer but I'm not really big on Melvin Gordon I think he's overrated. Diggs is legit with a Real QB and Kelce is probably 1b when it comes to TE's and you get a 1st Rounder. In addition you have young backs such as Cook and MCcaffrey your good.
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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby SpartacusPTech » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:29 pm

I prefer the Gordon side.
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Keenan Allen, Sutton, ARob, Dion Willis, Preston Williams, Funchess, Richardson Jr.
Barkley, Chubb, Hyde, McCoy, Breida,
Walker, Witten
LB: Hitchens, Littleton, M. Wilson, J. Baker, B. Okereke
DL: C. Heyward, A. Hicks, E. Oliver, Winovich
DB: Harrison Smith, E. Apple, Swearinger, Abram


Team 2 2019 - 3rd place
16 Team 0.5 ppr
QB:Jackson/Mayfield, Rivers
RB:Bell/Barkley/Michel/Miller/Hines/Scott
WR:Juju, K. Allen/Mike Williams/Tre'Quan Smith/N. Harry/Will Fuller
TE: Henry Njoku, Knox Hollister
DST:49ers, Titans
K: Koo
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2021 Picks 1,2,3

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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby Coogan Football » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:45 pm

I would pass on #1 and take #2 (sell Kelce)

I just knew this was your first ever post by seeing you put "Blockbuster" in the title lol

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QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:10 am

vbbish wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:33 pm
I personally dont mind the first trade.

Gordon/Matthews/Henry= Kelce/Diggs
1st>2nd

I would absolutely not make the 2nd trade and would hold Kelce... I would loathe to lose Hunter Henry though and would try and get him pumped about Engram after a good game on Monday night
Trading away Kelce for a 1st and a 2nd would be very silly
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TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Tua, Wentz
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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LAMAR, Cousins, Rivers, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/CARSON, Dobbins, Lindsay, Mattison, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/K ALLEN/JULIO/AROB, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Boyd, Coutee, Alshon
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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby hudini33 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:30 am

I'm agreeing with Coogan here.
Gordon has absolutely nobody to take carries from him. Keep Melvin Gordon.

I also don't hold a lot of value to TE as you can likely trade for an older one who gets decent production. Get the picks for him
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QB: Ryan, Tannehill
RB: Zeke, Gordon, Ekeler, Robinson, D. Freeman
WR: Diggs, Cooper, Sutton, John Brown, Metcalf, C. Davis, McLaurin, Hilton, Mooney, Raegor, V. Jefferson
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Sample
D/ST: Steelers
K: Streamed
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WR: Golladay, Sutton, Parker, Cooks, Mims, Shenault, Cole, Amendola, Duvernay, V. Jefferson
TE: Waller, Engram, Kmet, Sample

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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby Goddard » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:36 am

I don't think people realize that unless he makes the 1st deal, he can't make the 2nd one. He doesn't own Kelce yet. With that said, I'd keep Gordon as well.

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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby hudini33 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:38 am

Oops, misread.

In that case, just keep Gordon.
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WR: Diggs, Cooper, Sutton, John Brown, Metcalf, C. Davis, McLaurin, Hilton, Mooney, Raegor, V. Jefferson
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Sample
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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby BradysBunch » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:41 am

I am keeping Gordon. I don't think you are getting enough in return.
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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby mclilj » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:04 am

I agree with your concerns around Gordon but don't love the trade. I don't see you coming out ahead really. RBs seem to trade at a premium in both my leagues though so maybe I'm biased. I would want to get back another startable rb if I'm moving one.
Team 1:
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4

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QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby gunzwil guinea pigs » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:13 am

gordon side
2QB-Dynasty - 10 Team standard scoring - 30man roster
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QB: Joe Burrow, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Philipp Rivers, Marcus Mariota, Jalen Hurts
RB: Joe Mixon, Le'Veon Bell, Joshua Kelley, Rashaad Penny, Matt Breida, Lynn Bowden Jr., Ryquell Armstead
WR: Calvin Ridley, Stefon Diggs, Terry McLaurin, TY Hilton, Jarvis Landry, CeDee Lamb, Robert Woods, Mike Williams, Marvin Jones, N'Keal Harry, Denzel Mims, JJ Arcega-Whiteside
TE: Zach Ertz, Drew Sample, Dalton Schultz, Irv Smith
K: Matt Prater
D/ST: TB, GB

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Re: Melvin Gordon blockbuster...

Postby j_thunda_ » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:38 pm

Well I appreciate everyones input. I'm regrettably having to say I took the first trade and dumped Gordon. I did this for two reasons, it may be wrong thinking, but here it goes...

1. I've consistently traded with this manager for the past two years. In fact, last year I made a few trades where I dumped Bree's and a few scrub players and turned that into Cook/McCaffrey/Z. Jones/Foreman this year. I think he was starting to catch on that I always get the better of our trades and didn't want future discussions to go stale. I know he feels like he won on this trade.

2. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED Gordon form day 1, but after thorough research and looking past how well he looks when he runs. I don't see him going higher. Just my gut call on this one. I think he will start to trend down. Will see.

3. There is A LOT of love in my league for top TE and I know I can turn this into something if i'm not winning now in a few weeks. For example.
I have one manager willing to do Kelce -> Mixon & a pick OR Mixon & Olsen.
Another manger likely will offer his 1st and 2nd rounds next year (likely top 3 pick in 2018.)

4. Lastly, I have a young group of guys. Potentially having a group of young studs in Cook/McCaffrey/Davis/Carson/S. Barkley or Guice for the next 7 years is very enticing. I know Gordon is still young, but 25 vs. 22 would be nice.

Love to hear your thoughts on this thinking.
Team 1
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1 W/R
1PPR, 12 Teams, 20 Roster Spots

QBs: C. Wentz, J. Garoppolo, L.Jackson
RBs: S. Barkley, L. Bell, C. McCaffrey, C. Carson, D. Foreman
WRs: OBJ, J. Gordon, J. Landry, C. Davis, S. Watkins, C. Sutton, S. Diggs, JuJu Smith Schuster, C. Godwin
TEs: Travis Kelce, Njoku
Def: Ravens
K: Boswell

2019 Picks: 3
2020 Picks: 1, 2, 4
2021 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4


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