Coleman for McCaffrey
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Coleman for McCaffrey
Team in my league wants C. Coleman. Offered me Edleman and C. Thompson which i quickly rejected. Was thinking of countering with coleman for McCaffrey. Is this enough and if not what do you think i should add to get it done. Team in signature and i need some RB help.
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Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
Definitely not enough, although you can try. I would start off adding a 2018 second and go from there. Maybe add JMatt.
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Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
Yeah I'm famous for offering two WR's with upside/buzz for a player I like/want .. I'd have no problems sending Corey Coleman and JMatt for McCaffrey ..
I would note that Corey Coleman really made some nice plays with Kizer, those two may be a thing this year .. I'd still want McCaffrey though, he's one of my favorites this year ..
I would note that Corey Coleman really made some nice plays with Kizer, those two may be a thing this year .. I'd still want McCaffrey though, he's one of my favorites this year ..
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Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
I would want something on Coleman side
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Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
Mccaffery side is the clear best side to own. Corey Coleman may have upside, but McCaffery is in a whole tier above, doubly so in PPR formats.
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Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
Non-PPR...you are just swapping one overrated asset for another...I might even favor Coleman here because of the format. Ugh...epritchard15 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:00 pm Team in my league wants C. Coleman. Offered me Edleman and C. Thompson which i quickly rejected. Was thinking of countering with coleman for McCaffrey. Is this enough and if not what do you think i should add to get it done. Team in signature and i need some RB help.
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Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
Doesn't apply here...and what makes McCaffery a whole tier above? Just curious...
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Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
Yea, you're not getting CMC straight up for Coleman. Your probably have to add something with at least a late 1st value.
Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
Obviously subjective, but CMC had higher draft capital in a stronger draft class than Coleman. This doesn't necessarily equal better production, but it is evidence toward his high (real and fantasy) value. I believe his situation is stronger, being on the better team. Coleman has weaker QB play. He does have the opportunity to be the #1, which is in his favor. CMC has Newton vulturing TDs, which is a negative. Overall, his talent, draft capital and situation are more valuable compared to Coleman.flyersfan1981 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:08 pmDoesn't apply here...and what makes McCaffery a whole tier above? Just curious...
You also should acknowledge outside perception of CMC's value. While an individual does not value a player equally to another, awareness of a players "over-valued" potential trade capital allows them to gain more perceived value by unloading an unfavorably viewed asset for a favorable one. It's very clear that this community over-values CMC, which should allow this guy to get much more than Coleman in a potential trade.
Other factors are: Rookie Hype in favor of CMC, and a poor showing and lost 2016 season for Corey Coleman to his detriment.
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Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
Fair points...PingPwng wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:49 pmObviously subjective, but CMC had higher draft capital in a stronger draft class than Coleman. This doesn't necessarily equal better production, but it is evidence toward his high (real and fantasy) value. I believe his situation is stronger, being on the better team. Coleman has weaker QB play. He does have the opportunity to be the #1, which is in his favor. CMC has Newton vulturing TDs, which is a negative. Overall, his talent, draft capital and situation are more valuable compared to Coleman.flyersfan1981 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:08 pmDoesn't apply here...and what makes McCaffery a whole tier above? Just curious...
You also should acknowledge outside perception of CMC's value. While an individual does not value a player equally to another, awareness of a players "over-valued" potential trade capital allows them to gain more perceived value by unloading an unfavorably viewed asset for a favorable one. It's very clear that this community over-values CMC, which should allow this guy to get much more than Coleman in a potential trade.
Other factors are: Rookie Hype in favor of CMC, and a poor showing and lost 2016 season for Corey Coleman to his detriment.
I don't even like Coleman, but I do think the production of the two will be similar this year in non-PPR. I will be interested to see who scores more in non-PPR as I don't think CMC will get many carries and I have doubts about Cam's accuracy once he is getting smacked around per usual.
I definitely accept that CMC has more value now, I just don't think he should if that makes sense in this format.
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Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
Nowhere near enough for cmc.
Coleman at best was 1.3-1.5 last year and has easily dropped in value.
Cmc went 1.1-1.3 in most drafts this year - you'll need to add a significant asset to a WR4-5 to get CMC
Coleman at best was 1.3-1.5 last year and has easily dropped in value.
Cmc went 1.1-1.3 in most drafts this year - you'll need to add a significant asset to a WR4-5 to get CMC
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Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
You were offered a WR that's out for the year?epritchard15 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:00 pm Team in my league wants C. Coleman. Offered me Edleman and C. Thompson which i quickly rejected. Was thinking of countering with coleman for McCaffrey. Is this enough and if not what do you think i should add to get it done. Team in signature and i need some RB help.
Considering that's what was offered and what you're looking to counter with, I can't see a deal happening. Other team is trying to buy Coleman low and doesn't seem serious about offering much. Don't see him giving up McCaffrey.
Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
I agree with this. it seems more like he was trying to low ball you.onetwothree wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:49 am You were offered a WR that's out for the year?
Considering that's what was offered and what you're looking to counter with, I can't see a deal happening. Other team is trying to buy Coleman low and doesn't seem serious about offering much. Don't see him giving up McCaffrey.
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Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
I do not see a path to a deal with this manager. Starting with an INJ WR in the offer does not show they are motivated to make a deal. I would reject and offer no counter.
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Re: Coleman for McCaffrey
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