Alshon vs Moncrief

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Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby AndrewS » Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:19 am

For team 1 in sig...have Alshon and trying to determine if I should move him for Moncrief and a random 1st? How does the forum feel about Moncrief going forward?
Team 1 - 12 Team Half PPR
Start 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE, 1 D/ST
Total Starters = 10
Russel Wilson, Eli Manning
Bell, Howard, Hyde, J Williams, Smallwood, A Jones, J Allen, D Washington
M Thomas, B Cooks, D Hopkins, A Jeffery, Meredith, Boyd, Caroo, Smelter, T Benjamin, C Hansen
Ebron, Butt, V McDonald, G Kittle
2018 1, 1, 3, 4 2019 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4

Team 2 - 12 Team Half PPR
Start 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE, 1 D/ST, 1 K
Total Starters = 10
Brees, Bortles, Goff, Fitzpatrick
D Freeman, L Miller, JStew, CJ Anderson, J Hill, J Williams
TY Hilton, K Allen, A Thielen, Tate, Stills, Hogan, Wheaton, Hansen
Graham, Walker, Z Miller

Team 3 - 12 Team Full PPR
Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 4 FLEX (RB/WR/TE)
Total Starters = 8
A Rodgers
Ingram, Ware, Martin, L Murray, AP, Artis-Payne, Quizz Rodgers, D Lewis, R Jennings, Josh Ferguson
AJ Green, J Landry, D Baldwin, E Decker, J Brown, R Cobb, J Janis, T Smith
J Reed, E Ebron, E Swoope, J Heuerman

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby The.Big.Spank » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:00 am

I have a hard time determining who is the bigger tease, him or Watkins
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Bulletproof » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:38 am

I'd probably roll the dice with Moncrief and the 1st. I think Alshon's best days might be behind him.
12 Team Superflex Best Ball PPR TEP +1.5
QB: Lawrence, Kyler Murray, O’Connell
RB: Gibbs, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown, Pierce
WR: London, Tank Dell, Pickens JSN, Michael Wilson
TE: McBride, Dulcich

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Kramer » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:43 am

Alshon if you're a contender or if the 1st is projected late. I don't like Moncrief much, so if I did this trade, I'd want to flip him for something else.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby yonald » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:49 am

Just recently dealt Moncrief for the 2.04 rookie pick.

This meant I'm keeping Garçon over Moncrief
12 team. .5 PPR, 6pt passing, 6 pt rushing/receiving. 25 man roster.
Start - QB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex DL DL LB LB DB DB IDP Flex
Keepers offense - 1 QB 1 RB 1 WR 1 TE 1 FLEX
defense - 3 of any position
rookies - 3 of any position

QB: Cousins, Stroud (R)
RB: Hall
WR: G Wilson, Olave, Dell (R)
TE: Kelce
DE: Josh Allen
LB: Q Walker, E Jones
DB: D James

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Favrezilla » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:41 am

Alshon any day or format. Even with a first unless it's guaranteed top3-4

I also really dislike moncreif .
T.1 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex (13th year) ‘21&’22 champ
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford,
RB: Mixon, Henry, zeke, Rochon
WR: Godwin, Olave, Deebo,DJM, Dell, MW, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Musgrave

T.2 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (10th year)
QB: Burrow, Baker,Jameis, jimmy, Wentz,
RB: Saquon, Mixon, Rochon, Evans
WR: Pickens, QJ, Thielen, Arob, Juju, ODB, D. Parker, Osborn,
TE: Kincaid, Ertz, Freirmuth, Taysom, JWoods

T.3 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (3rd year) ‘21&’22 champ
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Winston, Darnald
RB: JT, Javonte,Sanders, JCook, Jamaal
WR: Godwin, Waddle, ARSB, Pittman, MW, Jameson, Zay, Claypool, Toney, Terrance
TE: Hock, Fant, McBride

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Meretc01 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:13 am

I like moncrief.. Alshon is another Sammy at times.. doI would lean that way
12Team 1QB 3 WR 2 RB 1 TE 2 Flex
QB: Tannehill, Wilson
RB: Swift, M. Carter, Etienne, Cohen, Mckissic, Dallas
WR: Jefferson, Pittman Jr.,T. Higgins, Reagor, Parker, Slayton, G.Davis, Cephus, A St.Brown, T. Marshall,
T. Johnson
TE: Schultz, Jonnu, Dissly, Sample
2022 Picks: 1st-2 3rd-1

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby yonald » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:25 am

I prefer Alshon over Moncrief.

I worry about Moncrief relying too heavily on TDs which might not come this year
12 team. .5 PPR, 6pt passing, 6 pt rushing/receiving. 25 man roster.
Start - QB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex DL DL LB LB DB DB IDP Flex
Keepers offense - 1 QB 1 RB 1 WR 1 TE 1 FLEX
defense - 3 of any position
rookies - 3 of any position

QB: Cousins, Stroud (R)
RB: Hall
WR: G Wilson, Olave, Dell (R)
TE: Kelce
DE: Josh Allen
LB: Q Walker, E Jones
DB: D James

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Tripwired » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:25 am

They're both injury prone, but alshon looks healthy and fit for a change. I kinda feel like they're very similar in production.... If healthy. I'd probably lean alshon ever so slightl if I wanted to compete this season, but they both carry a certain degree of risk. I guess for me the kicker would be where you project the first round pick to range. Top 3-4, or later? Also, I like the Luck to Moncrief pairing over the Wentz to Alshon combo, so maybe the qb could help in deciding. However, Moncrief is in the final year of his deal. I guys for me it's all going to hinge on the round one pick range.
10 team Dynasty league with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018, 2021
QB- Burrow, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Kamara, Swift, Javonte, Saquon, JK, Akers, E. Mitchell, Penny
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DK, Tee, Diontae, Pittman, Bateman, Rondale
TE- Pitts, Knox, Freiermuth
DST - Chi

10 team PPR Dynasty with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Taylor, Swift, CEH, E. Mitchell, Sermon, AJ Dillon, Stevenson, Penny, Patterson
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DJM, Diontae, OBJ, Palmer, Marshall, Rondale
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Kmet, Trautman
Dst - TB, Mia

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby sugbear65 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:39 am

Both guys that have underperformed compared to the lofty expectations placed on them early on. I think upside wise they have the same ceiling. But I think Alshon's woes are partly because he's fat and lazy. As an Eagles fan I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just not a Jeffrey fan. I have no animosity towards Moncrief though, lol. If I could get a 2018 1st on top of him for Alshon, I'd have already sold him.

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby jojo5151 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:41 am

Alshon if you want to win now
Team 1
1 QB 12 team PPR
QB - T. Law, Carr, Browning, Stidham
RB- Chubb, Gibbs, Gibson, K. Williams, D Henderson, Dowdle
WR/TE- A. St. Brown, Higgins, K. Allen, E. Moore, B .Cooks, N. Brown, Tillman, McBride, Ferguson
Defense - Ravens, Raiders, Rams
Team 2
1QB 10 team PPR
QB - L. Jackson
RB - Pierce, Akers, Mostert, K. Williams
WR - J.Jefferson, Olave, Njigba,Dotson, E.Moore
TE - Ferguson
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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Pvdawg5 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:50 am

If you want to win now. Alshon. If rebuilding the other side. If you think the 1st will be top 7 id prob lean the pick and moncreif
Team 1 - 12 tm PPR, Superflex
QB- Wentz, Watson, Mariota, foles, Allen
RB- Zeke, Mixon, Abdullah, Dixon, Booker, Jamaal Williams, Buck Allen, Chris Carson, Ronald jones,
WR- Mike Thomas, DT, Kupp, Courtland Sutton, Mike Williams, Treadwell, garçon, Maurice Harris, Richie James, Chad Williams, deon Cain
TE- Hooper, Njoku, Engram, Hugbee
Picks 2019 - 1 1st, 1 3rd

Team 2 - 12 Team PPR Home League, Commish
QB - Carr, Flacco, Mahomes
RB - Cook, Mixon, Ingram, Ware, gillislee, Powell
WR - Julio, OBJ, Watkins, Jordy, Moncreif, Parker, Sanders, Martavis Bryant, Doctson, enunwa
TE - Eifert, fleener, Howard, Njoku
K - Prater
Def - Falcons, Giants
2018 picks - 2 1sts, 1 2nd, 1 3rd

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Goddard » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:24 pm

Favrezilla wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:41 am Alshon any day or format. Even with a first unless it's guaranteed top3-4

I also really dislike moncreif .
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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:35 pm

Alshon is the only one that's proven to be elite rather than just hoped to be
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby vixen » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:46 pm

Goddard wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:24 pm
Favrezilla wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:41 am Alshon any day or format. Even with a first unless it's guaranteed top3-4

I also really dislike moncreif .
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same with me...i am going to try to trade him in my league as soon as he has a good game
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris


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