Who do you prefer?
Small backstory (if that's allowed here):
- I have Evans, looking to move him for DJ
- Running backs are still worth their weight in gold, regardless of all the pro-receiver content DLF and other sites can pump out.
- The current DJ-owner believes he's the #1 asset in dynasty (yeah, that's right) and wants Evans plus something to move him.
- Both of us made the playoffs last year, and both are likely in the mix for the playoffs at this early point in the preseason.
David Johnson vs Mike Evans
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David Johnson vs Mike Evans
Team 1
10 team, PPR, 22-man rosters, 5 PS. 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1PK 1DST
- QB: Herbert, Goff
- RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Achane, Akers, Dobbins, Gibson, Pacheco, Carter, Warren
- WR: AJB, Wilson, Olave, DJM, JSN, Pittman, Zay, Jameson, Godwin, Palmer
- TE: Andrews, Goedert, Freiermuth, Engram
2016 and 2018 champion!
Team 2
12 team, PPR, 40-man rosters, 1QB 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
- QB: Herbert, Dalton, Minshew
- RB: Barkley, Swift, Herbert, JWilliams, Roschon, Zeke, KIngram, McFarland
- WR: Lamb, Waddle, DK, Aiyuk, MWilliams, Keenan, ARob, Woods
- TE: Andrews, Engram, Moreau, Trautman, Ruckert
10 team, PPR, 22-man rosters, 5 PS. 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1PK 1DST
- QB: Herbert, Goff
- RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Achane, Akers, Dobbins, Gibson, Pacheco, Carter, Warren
- WR: AJB, Wilson, Olave, DJM, JSN, Pittman, Zay, Jameson, Godwin, Palmer
- TE: Andrews, Goedert, Freiermuth, Engram
2016 and 2018 champion!
Team 2
12 team, PPR, 40-man rosters, 1QB 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
- QB: Herbert, Dalton, Minshew
- RB: Barkley, Swift, Herbert, JWilliams, Roschon, Zeke, KIngram, McFarland
- WR: Lamb, Waddle, DK, Aiyuk, MWilliams, Keenan, ARob, Woods
- TE: Andrews, Engram, Moreau, Trautman, Ruckert
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Re: David Johnson vs Mike Evans
Two of dynasty's top assets.
I'm keeping my Evans here due to longevity factor. I think it could 8 years vs 4.
I'm keeping my Evans here due to longevity factor. I think it could 8 years vs 4.
Re: David Johnson vs Mike Evans
Evan is a top tier WR with Winston throwing at him for years to come.... You also got Djax to open up the field, so my guess is he'll do extremely well this year. I personally don't value RBs as much as WRs.
12-Team, Full PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
QB: Winston, Tannehill, Brady, K. Allen, RG3, Manning
RB: Gordon, Conner, Guice, Laird, M. Davis, J. Williams, B. Scott, Henderson, McCoy, D. Lewis
WR: Hopkins, Godwin, Edelman, Tate, Slayton, Samuel, P. Williams
TE: Andrews, J. Smith, Graham
Taxi: Stidham, Willis
QB: Winston, Tannehill, Brady, K. Allen, RG3, Manning
RB: Gordon, Conner, Guice, Laird, M. Davis, J. Williams, B. Scott, Henderson, McCoy, D. Lewis
WR: Hopkins, Godwin, Edelman, Tate, Slayton, Samuel, P. Williams
TE: Andrews, J. Smith, Graham
Taxi: Stidham, Willis
Re: David Johnson vs Mike Evans
X2Space Cowboy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:07 pm Two of dynasty's top assets.
I'm keeping my Evans here due to longevity factor. I think it could 8 years vs 4.
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
Re: David Johnson vs Mike Evans
Evans, not close.
Re: David Johnson vs Mike Evans
I consider them even in value, I wouldn't add anything on to either side to get a trade done. DJ will product more points than Evans but for fewer years so I value them about the same over the course of their careers.
Re: David Johnson vs Mike Evans
I think this can go either way and will come down to preference... as a dj owner... I would never trade him for evans, and I surely would not add to him... but for reference, last year right before playoffs, I tried to aquire evans and I asked the owner what it would take, and told him I was pretty open as I was quite deep, I was willing to package a few good players. he told me any conversation on evans would have to start with dj at minimum... I laughed and said no thanks, and that was the end of it..
I realized the WR last longer, evans has a good young QB, and over the next 10 years worth of points, there is no question evans will win that... but I think over the next 4-5, dj will hands down.. so if im in position to win now, id rather have dj..
I realized the WR last longer, evans has a good young QB, and over the next 10 years worth of points, there is no question evans will win that... but I think over the next 4-5, dj will hands down.. so if im in position to win now, id rather have dj..
Team #1
12 team .5 ppr- Superflex
full dynasty start up (2022)
1Qb, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1F, 1SF, 1D, 1K, 8B
QB- Allen, Watson, cousins carr
RB- [/b],Barkley, taylor, Etienne, jacobs, montgomery, hull, latavius, rodriguez jr
WR- diggs, kupp, A.J Brown, waddel, jamo
TE- Kelce
D- San fran, colts,
12 team .5 ppr- Superflex
full dynasty start up (2022)
1Qb, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1F, 1SF, 1D, 1K, 8B
QB- Allen, Watson, cousins carr
RB- [/b],Barkley, taylor, Etienne, jacobs, montgomery, hull, latavius, rodriguez jr
WR- diggs, kupp, A.J Brown, waddel, jamo
TE- Kelce
D- San fran, colts,
Re: David Johnson vs Mike Evans
Agree with the last post.
DJ for the short term is more of a difference maker if you are in the mix to win it all. Only two RB's are considered in his class and then it is a decent drop off after them.
Evans is in the elite level along with about 5 or so other WR's. Then even the next group has potential to match production on any given year.
So in summation I wouldn't be adding anything to DJ. Nor would I even trade DJ straight up for Evans if I'm in a position to win. Only if I was in a complete long term rebuild would I make the deal and even then I wouldn't add to DJ because the team getting him is probably setting up to win a title with him.
DJ for the short term is more of a difference maker if you are in the mix to win it all. Only two RB's are considered in his class and then it is a decent drop off after them.
Evans is in the elite level along with about 5 or so other WR's. Then even the next group has potential to match production on any given year.
So in summation I wouldn't be adding anything to DJ. Nor would I even trade DJ straight up for Evans if I'm in a position to win. Only if I was in a complete long term rebuild would I make the deal and even then I wouldn't add to DJ because the team getting him is probably setting up to win a title with him.
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Re: David Johnson vs Mike Evans
As an Evans owner and Bucs fan, Evans isn't going away, he's the real deal. The Winston connection to him is just beginning. Now, so is DJ, but we don't know Evans ceiling yet after another great year. Like said above, you can have that for 6-9 years vs 3-5 in DJ. Evans gives you a larger window to win, and that, is why we play the game. Good luck this year.
Team 1
12 team IDP PPR Single QB
QB: J. Burrow, J. Love
RB: S. Barkley, A. Kamara, J. Williams
WR: C. Lamb, J. Jefferson, M. Evans, C. Godwin, A.J. Brown
TE: S. LaPorta D. Geodert, T. Kelce
DL: D. Hunter, C. Granderson, B. Chubb
LB: P. Queen, R. Smith, CJ Mosley
CB: J. Thompson, CJGJ, P. Adebo
Team 2
14 Team TEP SF PPR IDP
QB: P. Mahomes, A. Richardson , B. Young
RB: B. Robinson, J. Gibbs
WR: T. Higgins, M. Brown, D. London, D. Wicks, Q. Johnston
TE: D. Njoku, I. Likely
Picks: 24’ - 1.10 - 2.09 - 2.14 - 3.09 - 3.13
Team 3
12 team IDP SF PPR TEP
QB: L. Jackson, J. Hurts, B. Young, Rodgers
RB: B. Hall, J. Gibbs, I. Pacheco, A. Kamara
WR: P. Nacua, Deebo, JSN, Sutton, M. Brown
TE: T. Hockenson, J. Ferguson
LB: F. Oluokun, R. Smith, R. Spillane, B. Wagner, D. Greenlaw
DB: J. Brisker, B. Baker, K. Moore
DL: D. Hunter, M. Garrett, K. Paye, Q. Williams
12 team IDP PPR Single QB
QB: J. Burrow, J. Love
RB: S. Barkley, A. Kamara, J. Williams
WR: C. Lamb, J. Jefferson, M. Evans, C. Godwin, A.J. Brown
TE: S. LaPorta D. Geodert, T. Kelce
DL: D. Hunter, C. Granderson, B. Chubb
LB: P. Queen, R. Smith, CJ Mosley
CB: J. Thompson, CJGJ, P. Adebo
Team 2
14 Team TEP SF PPR IDP
QB: P. Mahomes, A. Richardson , B. Young
RB: B. Robinson, J. Gibbs
WR: T. Higgins, M. Brown, D. London, D. Wicks, Q. Johnston
TE: D. Njoku, I. Likely
Picks: 24’ - 1.10 - 2.09 - 2.14 - 3.09 - 3.13
Team 3
12 team IDP SF PPR TEP
QB: L. Jackson, J. Hurts, B. Young, Rodgers
RB: B. Hall, J. Gibbs, I. Pacheco, A. Kamara
WR: P. Nacua, Deebo, JSN, Sutton, M. Brown
TE: T. Hockenson, J. Ferguson
LB: F. Oluokun, R. Smith, R. Spillane, B. Wagner, D. Greenlaw
DB: J. Brisker, B. Baker, K. Moore
DL: D. Hunter, M. Garrett, K. Paye, Q. Williams
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Re: David Johnson vs Mike Evans
Mike Evans here, and the reason is, the absolute hardest player to find is a consistent WR1 that will bring you points week in and week out. RB's for the most part are low paid players that are easier to find and replace than an elite top 3 WR with deep threat, speed, and big play ability, as well as built rapport with their star QB. RB's that do get the "Lions share" of carries are constantly taking hits and much more prone to injury when fed the ball constantly. Defenses tune in on backfields, they get exposed. Yes DJ is a beast, and of course they over hand him the ball so he gets plenty of points for you, but his long term effects on his knees, his body, will all be exposed over short time if they continue playing him that way. Think about guys like Ajayi who has a knee issue. Did it ever occur to you that they feed players over and over again until they break down, while Ajayi might think he's gonna get paid the big bucks, he's actually being run down for a reason?
Time for the next guy up..that is the RB market. Running backs playing for the money, though it's still a business. Coaches using and abusing to save the team money get to keep their jobs. Hence the Bell holdout. Always go with the best WR1, regardless the points a year before. Backfields change constantly! Consistency and long term is key.
Time for the next guy up..that is the RB market. Running backs playing for the money, though it's still a business. Coaches using and abusing to save the team money get to keep their jobs. Hence the Bell holdout. Always go with the best WR1, regardless the points a year before. Backfields change constantly! Consistency and long term is key.
24 Player Roster/12 Team/PPR/IDP/PPT(Point Per Tackle)
4 player Taxi Squad
QB- Aaron Rodgers, Winston
RB- Monty, Ajayi, Ingram, Duke, Booker, Burkhead, Collins, Foreman, Breida
WR- Cooks, A-Rob, TY, Funchess, MBryant, Godwin, MWilliams, Golladay
TE-Engram
PK- M.Crosby
LB- CJ Mosley, L David
DE- Fowler, Okafor
DB- Clinton-Dix, Rashad Jones
24 player roster/12 team/0.5 PPR/IDP/4 player Taxi
QB- Luck, Carr, Bortles
RB- Zeke, Hyde, McKinnon, Henry, A Jones, Drake, Foreman, Booker, Dixon
WR- Evans, Hilton, ARob, Cooper, Watkins, Shepard, C Davis, Gordon, Doctson
TE-Olsen, Kittle
PK- Whatever
DE- Okafor, Hunter
LB- Buccanon, Mack
S- Baker, Mathieu
4 player Taxi Squad
QB- Aaron Rodgers, Winston
RB- Monty, Ajayi, Ingram, Duke, Booker, Burkhead, Collins, Foreman, Breida
WR- Cooks, A-Rob, TY, Funchess, MBryant, Godwin, MWilliams, Golladay
TE-Engram
PK- M.Crosby
LB- CJ Mosley, L David
DE- Fowler, Okafor
DB- Clinton-Dix, Rashad Jones
24 player roster/12 team/0.5 PPR/IDP/4 player Taxi
QB- Luck, Carr, Bortles
RB- Zeke, Hyde, McKinnon, Henry, A Jones, Drake, Foreman, Booker, Dixon
WR- Evans, Hilton, ARob, Cooper, Watkins, Shepard, C Davis, Gordon, Doctson
TE-Olsen, Kittle
PK- Whatever
DE- Okafor, Hunter
LB- Buccanon, Mack
S- Baker, Mathieu
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