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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby BuckeyeNation » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:04 am

LOL, one of the few spots Watkins could go that I think is actually a downgrade from where he was.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby DLF3000 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:04 am

Oh those Bills. It's like they're trying to get worse every year.

Meanwhile, Goff has someone not-laughable to throw to. If he can stay on the field, which I doubt - and so did the brilliant Bills.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby Coogan Football » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:05 am

BuckeyeNation wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:04 am LOL, one of the few spots Watkins could go that I think is actually a downgrade from where he was.
I agree, when healthy Taylor wasn't afraid to launch it deep to Sammy.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby jeffster » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:08 am

Wow.

This seems good for Goff and JMatt, and somewhere between bad and neutral for Sammy. Goff gets a legit #1, and JMatt escapes a crowded situation.

Bills gain a 2nd and a 3rd, loose a 6th and swap CBs. That seems like a pretty crappy return for ditching Sammy to me, but maybe they really don't think he'll stay healthy.

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby Ryantacular » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:10 am

Gurley won't be seeing 8 in the box all day anymore. Buy those gurley shares.

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby Tsunami » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:11 am

Suddenly I think Goff is undervalued in superflex leagues.

Winners: Goff, Jeffery, Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin, Jordan Matthews

Losers: Tyrod Taylor, Robert Woods/Tavon Austin.
Ryantacular wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:10 am Gurley won't be seeing 8 in the box all day anymore. Buy those gurley shares.
Why, is Sammy going to play QB?

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby IR1 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:14 am

wow, missed my chance to sell this summer! or could this be good, garbage time stats?
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby n20 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:15 am

Tsunami wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:11 am Suddenly I think Goff is undervalued in superflex leagues.

Winners: Goff, Jeffery, Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin, Jordan Matthews

Losers: Tyrod Taylor, Robert Woods/Tavon Austin.
Ryantacular wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:10 am Gurley won't be seeing 8 in the box all day anymore. Buy those gurley shares.
Why, is Sammy going to play QB?
I'd add Zay Jones to the list of winners too
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby BuckeyeNation » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:16 am

jeffster wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:08 am Wow.

This seems good for Goff and JMatt, and somewhere between bad and neutral for Sammy. Goff gets a legit #1, and JMatt escapes a crowded situation.

Bills gain a 2nd and a 3rd, loose a 6th and swap CBs. That seems like a pretty crappy return for ditching Sammy to me, but maybe they really don't think he'll stay healthy.
Yeah, it doesn't seem like a ton to get in return but it's one of those situations where getting "something" is better than getting "nothing". A 2nd/3rd isn't inconsequential though. The Bills must have decided that they weren't giving Sammy a big contract next year, or have any aspirations of paying him 16-18mil on the tag next year. So from that standpoint, selling now and getting a couple solid picks is better than watching Sammy walk away next Spring.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby Ruggenater » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:16 am

n20 wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:15 am
Tsunami wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:11 am Suddenly I think Goff is undervalued in superflex leagues.

Winners: Goff, Jeffery, Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin, Jordan Matthews

Losers: Tyrod Taylor, Robert Woods/Tavon Austin.
Ryantacular wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:10 am Gurley won't be seeing 8 in the box all day anymore. Buy those gurley shares.
Why, is Sammy going to play QB?
I'd add Zay Jones to the list of winners too
And Nelson Agholor, I suppose.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby BhamRudy » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:23 am

Kinda off topic but I'm hoping this gets my league more active. It's been dead and this might be the news that gets all league back up and running. I am thinking a lot of trades will be going down in Dynasty leagues the next few days. Also, i would consider Mccoy a winner in this.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby joeday » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:30 am

I don't own any shares of Goff or Watkins (in any of my 15 leagues), but I really think the Goff hate is a bit out of control. He and Wentz were the consensus 1/2 QBs in some order, Wentz just got lucky going to an offensive minded team and coach. Goff got to go to a team that had a terrible HC and a first time (and terrible) OC. I know we expect instant results anymore, but are we really just giving up on a QB going into his second season? His coaches improved, his OL improved, his WRs improved, his pass catching TEs improved, he still has a very talented RB behind him and a decent defense. This scheme and this coach made Kirk Cousins a very rich man, and I am not giving up hope that he could do the same with Goff.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby ninotoreS » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:31 am

Big loser here is Tavon. The 40 million dollar Jeff Fisher baby is headed to the bench now.

Your '17 Rams starting WR lineup: Watkins-Kupp-Woods, with Austin coming on in 4-wide sets and as a gadget. Watkins is the DeSean Jackson, Woods is the Garcon, and Kupp is the Crowder. And Everet/Higbee is his Jordan Reed. McVay is really all in reconstructing his Washington offense.

Big winner here is Goff. He was terribad last year, but hey, so was JJohn Elway his rookie year (worse, actually). McVay did wonder-work with Cousins the last two seasons. Now Goff actually has a legit offense to lean on. If he can possibly be a good NFL QB, the way is now paved for him.
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby maxhyde » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:32 am

BuckeyeNation wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:04 am LOL, one of the few spots Watkins could go that I think is actually a downgrade from where he was.
Possibly but I don't think so...all his home games are warm weather and Taylor is a better fantasy QB but is he a better QB? I think McVey will find ways to get Sammy involved.
Besides Goff looked bad in an unwinnable situation...terrible line and poor receiving options
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby ImaRounder » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:34 am

joeday wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:30 am I don't own any shares of Goff or Watkins (in any of my 15 leagues), but I really think the Goff hate is a bit out of control. He and Wentz were the consensus 1/2 QBs in some order, Wentz just got lucky going to an offensive minded team and coach. Goff got to go to a team that had a terrible HC and a first time (and terrible) OC. I know we expect instant results anymore, but are we really just giving up on a QB going into his second season? His coaches improved, his OL improved, his WRs improved, his pass catching TEs improved, he still has a very talented RB behind him and a decent defense. This scheme and this coach made Kirk Cousins a very rich man, and I am not giving up hope that he could do the same with Goff.
Do people really think Goff is trash? Pretty hard to even evaluate him last year considering defenses knew every single time he was going to throw.


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