Who are the top 20 rookies in a super flex PPR league?

[joeday]

Curious who you all think are the top 20 rookies in a PPR super flex league?

[onetwothree]

Wouldn't it be pretty much the same since it's a weak QB class? Until landing spots are known, I wouldn't spend much on any of the QBs. No consensus on order or even how many will go in the 1st Rd.

[joeday]

Generally I think you are right but QBs usually always get pushed up in superflex especially if they are taken in the first round

[OhCruelestRanter]

It's your top 17 plus Watson, Kizer, and Trubisky.

[Servo]

In 2QB and SF there's a very good chance all 3 go in the first round but I can also see only 1 going in the first...thing is, who is actually going to be a starter right away? You're probably looking at Trubisky or Watson with Kizer hitting the bench for a year.

Watson's 49MPH velocity is very concerning for me, yes, the guy played in big games and won in those big games but seeing that metric is never a good thing...as history shows us.

[Monkey]

I've also been very curious about this. One of my superflex teams I currently have 1.02, 2.02 with Luck, Glennon, Bridgewater, and Kessler at QB. I've been curious if I should attempt to move my second up into the end of the first to get a QB.

So far in 3 years we have yet to have a first round without a QB taken

2016 - 1.08 Goff, 1.12 Wentz, 2.01 Lynch, 3.09 Hackenberg, 4.03 Dak, 4.06 Cardale, 4.07 Kessler, 4.10 Cook, 4.11 Driskel
2015 - 1.10 Winston, 2.01 Mariota, 3.01 Petty, 3.12 Mannion, 4.03 Grayson, 4.05 Hundley
2014 - 1.09 Manziel, 1.10 Bridgewater, 2.05 Bortles, 3.03 Savage, 3.10 Carr, 4.02 Murray, 4.03 Thomas, 4.10 Mettenberger, 4.11 Garoppolo

Edit: 4 pt passing TDs

[FiremanEd]

The above has pretty suppressed draft slots for QBs, even in Superflex, as shown by Winston and Mariota, both of which were solid prospects. Both went top 5 in mine, while Goff/Wentz held down 1.04/1.05 last year as well.

This year I am expecting two QBs to still go first round of the rookie draft, then probably the other two in the second round. I don't think they come off the board until 1.07 or so this year, but after that I can see someone pulling the trigger. Need selections could make them higher, though I don't think that's wise.

I can see another one or two going 3rd round potentially as well.

[ZPalmtree]

I lost my SF V card last offseason, and ended up in 3 total SF leagues, and it varied from league to league. One league Golf and Wentz went 1.02/1.03 after Zeke, the other two rookies were included in the startup. One of the leagues has not come to grips with the value of QB's and I am sitting on Rodgers Winston and Wentz. But I also own the 1.01 1.10 and 2.01 in that league. I am not really looking for a QB in that one, and I am 99% sure a QB won't go in the 1st in this league. I could be wrong, but from what I have seen thus far, I'd be shocked if that happened. The other two leagues are a lot more savvy and could see someone reaching for a QB. For example a guy just gave up Wentz Kaepernick and a '18 1st for the 1.01

[Servo]

I think the one thing that also drives SF/2QB leagues is the fact that the teams hurting for a QB don't really have any other choice but to take a guy who's projected to come in and start, seeing how valuable QB points are on a weekly basis.

But that's the thing, who's going to start here? The QB landscape has already changed within a week of FA. Most of the teams needing a QB (outside of Cleveland) would probably be best off sitting their pick for a year at the minimum.

CHI - Glennon, Bears will probably want to see if he's competent or bursts into flames and could easily still draft a QB.
SF - Hoyer, Barkley/Ham Sandwhich could easily be a 1 year stop gap QB who's proven he's somewhat competent and can win some games.
NYJ - who TF knows what they'll do.

So realistically you're spending a pick that may never get on the field year 1, which dependent on your depth or competitiveness may not be a big deal or crush you.

[maxhyde]

It's your top 17 plus Watson, Kizer, and Trubisky.

Mahomes and/or Webb will probably get drafted ahead of 2 of the RB/WR/TE's too. Hard to figure any of those 5 are later than a 3rd-4th round pick in the NFL. Kelly might even sneak in.
Superflex and especially with Dak's season fresh in owners minds are going to take extra risks on later QB's earlier because of it.
I would pile up 3rd round picks in superflex leagues if you can. Good players either drop or potential QB's...sort of win-win

[Monkey]

Edited above to note that that league has 4 pt passing TDs, but even so, it does seem like QBs should be a couple spots higher.

[OhCruelestRanter]

It's your top 17 plus Watson, Kizer, and Trubisky.

Mahomes and/or Webb will probably get drafted ahead of 2 of the RB/WR/TE's too. Hard to figure any of those 5 are later than a 3rd-4th round pick in the NFL. Kelly might even sneak in.
Superflex and especially with Dak's season fresh in owners minds are going to take extra risks on later QB's earlier because of it.
I would pile up 3rd round picks in superflex leagues if you can. Good players either drop or potential QB's...sort of win-win

Eh, it's plausible. But what if those guy go in the 3rd/4th, but to teams like Buffalo or Cincy, or worse, to somewhere they're completely blocked by a Mariota/Winston.

I don't disagree with you, but right now my guess is that those guys land somewhere that precludes them from going in the top 20 on average.

[maxhyde]

It's your top 17 plus Watson, Kizer, and Trubisky.

Mahomes and/or Webb will probably get drafted ahead of 2 of the RB/WR/TE's too. Hard to figure any of those 5 are later than a 3rd-4th round pick in the NFL. Kelly might even sneak in.
Superflex and especially with Dak's season fresh in owners minds are going to take extra risks on later QB's earlier because of it.
I would pile up 3rd round picks in superflex leagues if you can. Good players either drop or potential QB's...sort of win-win

Eh, it's plausible. But what if those guy go in the 3rd/4th, but to teams like Buffalo or Cincy, or worse, to somewhere they're completely blocked by a Mariota/Winston.

I don't disagree with you, but right now my guess is that those guys land somewhere that precludes them from going in the top 20 on average.

Certainly possible but today you can put them in the worst spot possible or the best spot possible. Way too early to be calling a top 20. I probably won't pick any before pick 12 but that is maybe just me. I think all 5 are probably gone by the end of round 2 in the NFL draft. Today I think because of Dak's impressive season as a 4th round pick QB's are going to be overdrafted in many 2QB/superflex leagues and he was drafted into an ugly looking spot

Only the Jets would draft a guy in round 2 and say he has no chance to start...over our incumbent stud QB Fitzpatrick

[Servo]

Guys like Mahomes, Webb, Kelly, Peterman etc. probably only hold water if they are drafted into a situation like Arizona, Houston, Pittsburgh, NOLA, NYG, KC.

I.E. solid teams that possibly view them as heirs (dependent on their draft round I'd say). But I'd also agree that people are going to pay much more attention to this now in SF/2QB because of what happened with Romo/Dak and the draft steal he became.