2016 versus 2017 class

[People Mover]

Lots of guys were talking this upcoming class down. Some even put 2016 firmly ahead. Is there anyone who still feels at this point in the process that 2016 was a better class (anticipation and depth) than 2017? How would the two compare now? Should I trade my 2017 1st round picks for 2016 talent? Thoughts?

[ImaRounder]

Are you trying to troll this community?

[Cameron Giles]

Overall, the 2016 class was a lot better than most believed it would be, and that was my gut feeling going into the season.

2 RB1's - Elliott, Howard
1 WR1 - Thomas
1 QB1 - Prescott

And a lot of players (H. Henry, D. Henry, C. Coleman, W. Fuller, S. Shepard, T. Hill,) who flashed.

My feeling was always that people were prematurely annointing 2017 as some super class. It looks like a very promising class and I think it will be better than 2016, but, 2016 isn't really the bar for analyzing draft classes.

Depending on the player, I can see trading some 2017 picks for 2016 players and vice versa.

[People Mover]

Not sure what to think about Coleman.

[Cameron Giles]

Not sure what to think about Coleman.

Coleman didn't set the world on fire, but I only look for rookies to flash a few times anyway. Considering he played with the worst QB play in the league and came back midseason from a broken hand, I thought Coleman looked solid. The big play ability was there. I don't think he showed his full display of athleticism just yet, which is scary, but there were a handful of plays where you can see why he's regarded highly.

If Cleveland does go for a QB this year, I think Coleman could definitely be unleashed going forward.

[People Mover]

I hope so. I own him but felt like at times they had to manufacture touches for him. The targets were there but he seemed inefficient. Hopefully it was quarterback play and not totally on Coleman. I was really high on him last year.

[spider321]

Lots of guys were talking this upcoming class down. Some even put 2016 firmly ahead. Is there anyone who still feels at this point in the process that 2016 was a better class (anticipation and depth) than 2017? How would the two compare now? Should I trade my 2017 1st round picks for 2016 talent? Thoughts?

What? Is it opposite day?

The '17 class appears to be FAR deeper and more talented than the '16 class. Imo, that was obvious a year ago when I traded for multiple '17 firsts.

[maxhyde]

Yeah. I won't be likely to be trading any '17 picks for '16 rookies.
I think top to bottom at every position '17 is stronger except QB. Even defensive side of the ball 17 might be better.

It will be interesting to see how they stack up in a couple years

[schiewerma21]

Ya I think the original poster was just kidding around.

But here is a question? Where does Michael Thomas rank right now in this class? For me he's wr3 behind Williams and Davis. So basically I would deal the 1.05 for him potentially in a 1 for 1 deal

[Cameron Giles]

Ya I think the original poster was just kidding around.

But here is a question? Where does Michael Thomas rank right now in this class? For me he's wr3 behind Williams and Davis. So basically I would deal the 1.05 for him potentially in a 1 for 1 deal

If someone owned Michael Thomas, why would they trade him for a mid-first? He just had a WR1 season as a rookie. I think he's as good as Williams and Davis, but he has the advantage of already proving it in the NFL.

I wouldn't even think about trading Thomas unless I was getting 1.01 or 1.02.

[ericanadian]

Not sure what to think about Coleman.

Coleman didn't set the world on fire, but I only look for rookies to flash a few times anyway. Considering he played with the worst QB play in the league and came back midseason from a broken hand, I thought Coleman looked solid. The big play ability was there. I don't think he showed his full display of athleticism just yet, which is scary, but there were a handful of plays where you can see why he's regarded highly.

If Cleveland does go for a QB this year, I think Coleman could definitely be unleashed going forward.

Worst QB play? Pryor seemed to do alright and it was more the line than the QBs. Besides, the Rams had the worst QB play by a country mile with San Francisco & Houston falling in behind them. Cleveland is probably mixed in with Chicago, Baltimore, Jacksonville & the Jets vying for the bottom five.

[schiewerma21]

Ya I think the original poster was just kidding around.

But here is a question? Where does Michael Thomas rank right now in this class? For me he's wr3 behind Williams and Davis. So basically I would deal the 1.05 for him potentially in a 1 for 1 deal

If someone owned Michael Thomas, why would they trade him for a mid-first? He just had a WR1 season as a rookie. I think he's as good as Williams and Davis, but he has the advantage of already proving it in the NFL.

I wouldn't even think about trading Thomas unless I was getting 1.01 or 1.02.

Well you would never get that. Thomas was a second round pick in a terrible draft. He won't have Drew slinging that thing forever.
I think thomas is probably the most overvalued guy in dynasty in startups next year. You confirmed that.

[People Mover]

I literally laughed out loud at the post above.

[Cameron Giles]

Well you would never get that. Thomas was a second round pick in a terrible draft. He won't have Drew slinging that thing forever.
I think thomas is probably the most overvalued guy in dynasty in startups next year. You confirmed that.

It's not like this year's WR class is better than last year's. I would bet that Thomas would even have a higher chance of going first round if he stayed in school.

The quality of draft class doesn't matter once a WR has already proven himself in the league. I'm not disqualifying Thomas for having an older QB and we don't even know who Williams QB will be yet. Thomas had a WR1 season, as a rookie and he's ridiculously skilled.

There's no way that's worth just a mid-first.

[People Mover]

First, it was Colston. Last season it was Cooks. This season Thomas. Talent or situation?