Detroit never added to Megatron. But I guess that's because Megatron regularly beat triple coverage with his size. Evans is basically the same size as Megatron, if Evans works on his hands he can be pretty darn close.jimmycricket14 wrote:Something to think about: Evans has 0 competition for targets right now. I remember similar conversations about Hopkins last year around this time when he was putting up monstrous weekly numbers with an insane amount of targets every week. Evan's situation is very similar right now, especially with Doug Martin and Simms both injured. He basically is the entire offense. Now that Fuller has arrived to eat into Hopkins's targets people there isn't a whole lot of talk of him being a tier 1 WR. I like Evan's long term situation and measurables better than Hopkins but the buc's are bound to add a WR2 next year to play opposite Evan's which could cause a similar cooling off in production. For that reason I would not trade OBJ for Evans and probably wouldn't quite put him in tier 1 just yet
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Re: Mike Evans
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Re: Mike Evans
I still would like to see much more chemistry between Jameis and Mike .. Mike makes it looks so easy though, like he'll catch 4 passes and before you know it he's already over a 100 yards and a score
Julio is just down right scary and can utterly destroy you .. he really makes guys look like high schoolers out there.. I'd ride Julio until he retires where I have him, the man is a beast.
Julio is just down right scary and can utterly destroy you .. he really makes guys look like high schoolers out there.. I'd ride Julio until he retires where I have him, the man is a beast.
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Re: Mike Evans
I'd have no issue with people having Evans #1 overall, and I have him 2nd behind OBJ. Sure, the team will eventually add more weapons, but the difference between Evans and Hopkins is Evans has better physical tools and a much better QB situation long term.
For this year, he is on pace for a record number of targets and has a cake playoff schedule. Is it even a short term upgrade to move him for Brown or Julio?
For this year, he is on pace for a record number of targets and has a cake playoff schedule. Is it even a short term upgrade to move him for Brown or Julio?
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Re: Mike Evans
I've said it before and I'll repeat - Evans is not as far off from OBJ as those around here would have you believe.
He is in the top tier of dynasty WRs.
He is in the top tier of dynasty WRs.
Re: Mike Evans
My tier 1 is Evans/Cooper/OBJ/Arob/Antonio Brown.
Re: Mike Evans
I agree with all except Arob. But to each their own. (I have him in tier 2)Jason3123 wrote:My tier 1 is Evans/Cooper/OBJ/Arob/Antonio Brown.
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Re: Mike Evans
And Sterling Shepard could eat into OBJ's targets, and we've already seen a preview of that this season. Ultimately, no team is going to rely on 1 WR to do everything. Playing the target game with WR's will just have you running in circles.jimmycricket14 wrote:Something to think about: Evans has 0 competition for targets right now. I remember similar conversations about Hopkins last year around this time when he was putting up monstrous weekly numbers with an insane amount of targets every week. Evan's situation is very similar right now, especially with Doug Martin and Simms both injured. He basically is the entire offense. Now that Fuller has arrived to eat into Hopkins's targets people there isn't a whole lot of talk of him being a tier 1 WR. I like Evan's long term situation and measurables better than Hopkins but the buc's are bound to add a WR2 next year to play opposite Evan's which could cause a similar cooling off in production. For that reason I would not trade OBJ for Evans and probably wouldn't quite put him in tier 1 just yet
Re: Mike Evans
He would be my last choice of the 5 but I'd prefer him to any of the RB's, Cooks, Green, Julio/other top 10-12 players.nathanq42 wrote:I agree with all except Arob. But to each their own. (I have him in tier 2)Jason3123 wrote:My tier 1 is Evans/Cooper/OBJ/Arob/Antonio Brown.
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I've stuck with Evans as my #2 WR since before last year, though I would move a few older guys ahead of him in some roster situations.
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I find it odd that AJ is considered so significantly below julio. Comparing the 2 they are 2 spots apart in points so far (full ppr), and 6 points apart. Each had beaten the other 3 times so far this year. They are less than a year apart in age and have been playing just as long. I consider aj up in that same tier as julio, obj, and brown, . I would consider Evans, Amari, and would probably throw Arob and nuk in a 2nd tier together and would personally take Amari as the top of that tier I'd forced to choose
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Mike Evans Top Dynasty Asset?
He's a physical monster who beats double teams with seeming ease. He's been extremely consistent and an elite scorer this year. He has a young QB with elite potential that targets him constantly. I just looked and the DLF rankings have him at #5 and Oct ADP has him at #4.
Now I own him in both of my leagues so I'm probably a little bias.. But I was talking about some trades earlier today and as I was talking to another owner I realized that I would not accept a trade of OBJ for Evans.
My question is am I crazy for valuing Evans more than OBJ? They are different types of WR's but I think Evan's upside is just as high and his situation is way better. Evans has at least earned a spot on that top tier and I can see an argument for him to be at the top of that tier..
Now I own him in both of my leagues so I'm probably a little bias.. But I was talking about some trades earlier today and as I was talking to another owner I realized that I would not accept a trade of OBJ for Evans.
My question is am I crazy for valuing Evans more than OBJ? They are different types of WR's but I think Evan's upside is just as high and his situation is way better. Evans has at least earned a spot on that top tier and I can see an argument for him to be at the top of that tier..
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Re: Mike Evans Top Dynasty Asset?
I like the big WRs like Julio, Evans, Dez, ajg, nuk, Megatron, arob, etc. So I'll take Evans over obj if he keeps this up. I dont think youre crazy but I can see why people would still have obj as #1.
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Re: Mike Evans Top Dynasty Asset?
There's been a pretty decent discussion about this on a thread a little lower down the page.
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Re: Mike Evans Top Dynasty Asset?
Yeah I agree for the most part. If the OBJ owner came to me and offered a 1-1 swap, I'd have a rough time not accepting but Evans' start this year combined with OBJ's mental stuff (which isn't a HUGE deal but it does factor in) probably would make me hold off.
Right now, I don't think I would trade Evans for AB, Cooper, Julio, ARob, or Nuk, unless a piece was added on like a first or maybe a 2nd, in the cases of Julio & OBJ
Right now, I don't think I would trade Evans for AB, Cooper, Julio, ARob, or Nuk, unless a piece was added on like a first or maybe a 2nd, in the cases of Julio & OBJ
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Re: Mike Evans Top Dynasty Asset?
It's close between him and odell for me with coop coming in as a close third.
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