With all fairness - in the second half; they were playing with a sizable league and the playcalling got insanely predictable even to me sitting on my couch.nathanq42 wrote:I thought he looked really good in the first half, kind of fell off for me in the second half thoughPhaded wrote:The Bears D isn't good - but they are more middle of the pack statistically at this point than bottom of the barrel. Zeke did do substantially better against them than Lamar Miller or the Eagles run game did.FantasyFreak wrote:He looked good against a porous D tonight.
I thought he looked pretty good tonight; he is starting to run more decisively but he is still learning it appears and needs to start trusting his o-line, which will come with time.
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True, I just thought he was finding and hitting the holes much better in the first half than the secondPhaded wrote:With all fairness - in the second half; they were playing with a sizable league and the playcalling got insanely predictable even to me sitting on my couch.nathanq42 wrote: I thought he looked really good in the first half, kind of fell off for me in the second half though
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott may not be worth the price
Miller doesn't have the Dallas OLPhaded wrote:The Bears D isn't good - but they are more middle of the pack statistically at this point than bottom of the barrel. Zeke did do substantially better against them than Lamar Miller or the Eagles run game did.FantasyFreak wrote:He looked good against a porous D tonight.
I thought he looked pretty good tonight; he is starting to run more decisively but he is still learning it appears and needs to start trusting his o-line, which will come with time.
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott may not be worth the price
This 100%. People had him over Gurley and DJ in dynasty and even redraft!!!! It was crazy. Like I said all off season. I think he'll be very good. Just like I think Melvin Gordon will be very good. But don't put them in the conversation with Gurley.Dynasty DeLorean wrote:There was no way he could live up to his price this offseason and it was baffling how some ppl were annointing him their #1 RB. I mean, I guess I get it b/c I think he'll be good. But I also think he's more Ryan Matthews (when healthy) than he is AP.
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"Even redraft"? Gurley is a long term asset for those that believe in him; Zeke being above Gurley in redraft makes "more sense" in redraft than dynasty. I can still see it in dynasty to be honest; although I will never acquire top RBs at their price so it doesn't really matter to me how the consensus values top RBs. I avoid them.TomBobAnderson wrote:This 100%. People had him over Gurley and DJ in dynasty and even redraft!!!! It was crazy. Like I said all off season. I think he'll be very good. Just like I think Melvin Gordon will be very good. But don't put them in the conversation with Gurley.Dynasty DeLorean wrote:There was no way he could live up to his price this offseason and it was baffling how some ppl were annointing him their #1 RB. I mean, I guess I get it b/c I think he'll be good. But I also think he's more Ryan Matthews (when healthy) than he is AP.
Re: Ezekiel Elliott may not be worth the price
The incredible prices paid for Elliot were always going to be hard to live up to. However, it is hard to be disappointed by a rookie who is tied for 2nd in the league in rushing thru 3 games (DAL giving the gimme TDs to other backs and Dak last night was disappointing from a fantasy perspective) and 3rd in rushes. The more important thing is that Zeke has looked better in each game showing better cuts, more patience, and decisiveness.
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theone wrote:The incredible prices paid for Elliot were always going to be hard to live up to. However, it is hard to be disappointed by a rookie who is tied for 2nd in the league in rushing thru 3 games (DAL giving the gimme TDs to other backs and Dak last night was disappointing from a fantasy perspective) and 3rd in rushes. The more important thing is that Zeke has looked better in each game showing better cuts, more patience, and decisiveness.
Agreed. Most players never "live up" to their trade value. The reason behind that, a majority of the time, is because people are giving up their entire team for one player. There isn't a single player in fantasy football worth the haul that these blockbuster rookies and studs end up receiving. That's not at all to insinuate that they aren't very good and productive (hopefully). But a lot of these trades end up with one team giving up way too many pieces to get one in return. It's hard to justify a trade like that for ANYONE.
Zeke has looked better and better. He easily could have had 2-3 TDs on top of his rushing production last week. Dallas has showed, without a doubt, that they are going to feed him the ball. It would be great if his passing game stats would increase, but 20+ carries and a chance at multiple TDs a game is exactly what you want out of your RB. He's having a better season than Gurley, rushing wise, all ready.
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott may not be worth the price
So - I'm not going to go out and say Zeke was worth the price those were paying.
However, he has indeed looked better with each week that passes.
Zeke now leads the league in rushing yards with 412 yards through the first 4 weeks.
However, he has indeed looked better with each week that passes.
Zeke now leads the league in rushing yards with 412 yards through the first 4 weeks.
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott may not be worth the price
Yep, Zeke is really good, though that shouldn't be a surprise. The prices were/are too ridiculous to pay for a rookie. But for those that did, at least you're getting immediate RB1 production right now and you could still cash out for what you paid.Phaded wrote:So - I'm not going to go out and say Zeke was worth the price those were paying.
However, he has indeed looked better with each week that passes.
Zeke now leads the league in rushing yards with 412 yards through the first 4 weeks.
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott may not be worth the price
He's a very good back in an excellent situation. I still would have cashed out if I had the 1.01, but I think there should have been very little doubt he was going to be a fantasy difference maker right out of the gate. The only guy who is going to stop him being great his him.Cameron Giles wrote:Yep, Zeke is really good, though that shouldn't be a surprise. The prices were/are too ridiculous to pay for a rookie. But for those that did, at least you're getting immediate RB1 production right now and you could still cash out for what you paid.Phaded wrote:So - I'm not going to go out and say Zeke was worth the price those were paying.
However, he has indeed looked better with each week that passes.
Zeke now leads the league in rushing yards with 412 yards through the first 4 weeks.
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott may not be worth the price
Even if Zeke has a good career he was already towards the top end of his value before touching the field thats where my issue is. If he isn't a year in year out RB1 than those who paid the 3 1sts paid too much.
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott may not be worth the price
I acquired him post draft for White, Henry, and Oz. I'm very happy with that deal, and I think I came out ahead.
He's taken time to warm up but he's looking good.
He's taken time to warm up but he's looking good.
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott may not be worth the price
That's true of almost any high end player. And they didn't pay too much if they get one season of RB1 production and then cash out next year for a profit (or just break even).broncohead wrote:Even if Zeke has a good career he was already towards the top end of his value before touching the field thats where my issue is. If he isn't a year in year out RB1 than those who paid the 3 1sts paid too much.
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Yeah, Price I paid was crazy high!!! I traded Tre Mason before his rookie season for a 2016 1st to the number 1 team in the league that year!! He bottomed out and it turned into the first pick lol, Sometimes it's better to be lucky.....
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RBs- N.Chubb 3yrs/14k, K. Drake 1yr/19k, A.Peterson 1yr/7k, I. Smith 2yrs/1k, P. Lindsay 2yrs/10k
WRs- A.Thielen 6yrs/48k, T. Lockett 5yrs/13k, C. Sutton 2 yrs/5k W.Fuller 5yrs/19k, J. Gordon 1yr/1k, KJ. Hamler 4yrs/1k, DJax 1yr/6k, D. Johnson 3yrs/1k, H.Renfrow 4yrs/1k, M.Williams 2yrs/10k
TEs- OJ.Howard 5yrs/5k W.Dissly 1yr/4k, G.Everett 1yr/5k, D.Goedert 2yrs/5k
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott may not be worth the price
So far, so good...
Have to say, I'm shocked at how well Dallas is doing overall. And while I'm the first guy to mock Jerry, heavy doses of Zeke DOES seem to be helping the D.
Have to say, I'm shocked at how well Dallas is doing overall. And while I'm the first guy to mock Jerry, heavy doses of Zeke DOES seem to be helping the D.
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"Because of (the Raiders), there's the no-clothesline rule, the no-hitting-out-of-bounds rule, the no-fumbling-forward-in-the-last-two-minutes rule, the no-throwing-helmets rule and the no-Stickum rule. So you see, we're not all bad." - Ted "The Mad Stork" Hendricks
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