The offer on the table is:
Give:
Bruce Ellington
Rob Kelley
Get:
CJ Prosise
Here's the catch. The other owner owns 4 2017 1sts and I own 2. My picks are from 2 of the better teams in the league while he has a variety of picks. The catch is that he would have the right to swap any of his picks with mine by years end. It's a 14 team league and 1 of my picks is a in the 12-14 range and the other in a 10-12 range.
Anything can happen in the season which is why I'm hesitant to do it. It could end up in my favor if both of my picks are good next year or backfire if they're not. One of the firsts he owns is also mine, so if I were to win a title, I'd end up with my pick lol
Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps COMPLETED
Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps COMPLETED
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14 Team IDP League 0.5 PPR 1 QB/ 2 RB/ 2 WR / 1 TE/ 1 R/W/T/ 2 LB/ 2 DL/ 2 DB/ 1 K
Dez Hoes Ain't Loyal
QB: A. Rodgers, C. Newton
RB: L. McCoy, D. Murray, L. Miller, F. Gore,B. Powell, C. Sims, M. Brown, R. Kelley
WR: AJ Green, K. Allen, D. Thomas, R. Cobb, K. White, B. Cooks, D. Funchess
TE: J. Reed, T. Kelce, D. Allen
K: J. Tucker
LB: V. Miller, J. Houston, P. Posluszny, C. Mosley
DL JJ Watt, C. Avril
DB T. Mathieu
Dez Hoes Ain't Loyal
QB: A. Rodgers, C. Newton
RB: L. McCoy, D. Murray, L. Miller, F. Gore,B. Powell, C. Sims, M. Brown, R. Kelley
WR: AJ Green, K. Allen, D. Thomas, R. Cobb, K. White, B. Cooks, D. Funchess
TE: J. Reed, T. Kelce, D. Allen
K: J. Tucker
LB: V. Miller, J. Houston, P. Posluszny, C. Mosley
DL JJ Watt, C. Avril
DB T. Mathieu
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Re: Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps
I'm usually against pick swaps, but if you're confident both of your 1sts wind up late then I guess I'd do the trade. One thing though- you said he would have the right to swap out- meaning he has the right to not swap too, correct?
If so, I would advise not doing the deal because there is no way he is going to choose giving up a worse pick...
If so, I would advise not doing the deal because there is no way he is going to choose giving up a worse pick...
16 Team PPR(.5 for RBs)/RetY/Balanced IDP League (QB,RB,2WR,TE,4FLX,PK,PN,DT,2DE,3LB,2CB,2S,1DFLX) 2018 & 2019 LC
QB- Mahomes, Ryan
RB- Gordon, Ingram, Swift, Gore, Hyde, Ogunbowale
WR- Hopkins, KAllen, Lockett, Golladay, Fitz, Edelman, MJones, Crowder, Cobb, Claypool, AGG, Miller (CHI), Humphries, Conley, David Moore, Demarcus Robinson, Gordon
TE- Olsen, Ian Thomas, Njoku
PK- Butker
PN- Cooke
DT- CJones, Ogunjobi, Kinlaw
DE- Hunter, DLaw, Young, Anderson, Turay
LB- Littleton, Mosley, D. Davis, Schobert, Bush, AJ Johnson, Walker, Evans, Burgess
CB- C Davis, Ward, Murphy-Bunting
S- JJ3, Walker, Williams, Rapp, Parks
Taxi: Oliver, Laird, Collier, Cominsky, Phillips, JAXWilliams, Harris, Willis
QB- Mahomes, Ryan
RB- Gordon, Ingram, Swift, Gore, Hyde, Ogunbowale
WR- Hopkins, KAllen, Lockett, Golladay, Fitz, Edelman, MJones, Crowder, Cobb, Claypool, AGG, Miller (CHI), Humphries, Conley, David Moore, Demarcus Robinson, Gordon
TE- Olsen, Ian Thomas, Njoku
PK- Butker
PN- Cooke
DT- CJones, Ogunjobi, Kinlaw
DE- Hunter, DLaw, Young, Anderson, Turay
LB- Littleton, Mosley, D. Davis, Schobert, Bush, AJ Johnson, Walker, Evans, Burgess
CB- C Davis, Ward, Murphy-Bunting
S- JJ3, Walker, Williams, Rapp, Parks
Taxi: Oliver, Laird, Collier, Cominsky, Phillips, JAXWilliams, Harris, Willis
Re: Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps
Yeah he wouldn't be forced to do any kind of swap. Here's the starting lineups for the teams I own the firsts of:TB3falcons wrote:I'm usually against pick swaps, but if you're confident both of your 1sts wind up late then I guess I'd do the trade. One thing though- you said he would have the right to swap out- meaning he has the right to not swap too, correct?
If so, I would advise not doing the deal because there is no way he is going to choose giving up a worse pick...
QB Brees
RB Charles
RB Jeremy Hill
WR Alshon
WR Maclin
TE Rudolph
FLEX Stewart
QB Eli
RB Gurley
RB Lacy
WR Julio
WR Cooper
TE Gronk
FLEX TY
14 Team IDP League 0.5 PPR 1 QB/ 2 RB/ 2 WR / 1 TE/ 1 R/W/T/ 2 LB/ 2 DL/ 2 DB/ 1 K
Dez Hoes Ain't Loyal
QB: A. Rodgers, C. Newton
RB: L. McCoy, D. Murray, L. Miller, F. Gore,B. Powell, C. Sims, M. Brown, R. Kelley
WR: AJ Green, K. Allen, D. Thomas, R. Cobb, K. White, B. Cooks, D. Funchess
TE: J. Reed, T. Kelce, D. Allen
K: J. Tucker
LB: V. Miller, J. Houston, P. Posluszny, C. Mosley
DL JJ Watt, C. Avril
DB T. Mathieu
Dez Hoes Ain't Loyal
QB: A. Rodgers, C. Newton
RB: L. McCoy, D. Murray, L. Miller, F. Gore,B. Powell, C. Sims, M. Brown, R. Kelley
WR: AJ Green, K. Allen, D. Thomas, R. Cobb, K. White, B. Cooks, D. Funchess
TE: J. Reed, T. Kelce, D. Allen
K: J. Tucker
LB: V. Miller, J. Houston, P. Posluszny, C. Mosley
DL JJ Watt, C. Avril
DB T. Mathieu
Re: Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps
I'd pass on it - you're taking on too much risk with the pick swap.
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Re: Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps
Then easily pass- not worth the risk. Probably rather have Ellington than Prosise at this point too...duckman92 wrote:
Yeah he wouldn't be forced to do any kind of swap. Here's the starting lineups for the teams I own the firsts of:
16 Team PPR(.5 for RBs)/RetY/Balanced IDP League (QB,RB,2WR,TE,4FLX,PK,PN,DT,2DE,3LB,2CB,2S,1DFLX) 2018 & 2019 LC
QB- Mahomes, Ryan
RB- Gordon, Ingram, Swift, Gore, Hyde, Ogunbowale
WR- Hopkins, KAllen, Lockett, Golladay, Fitz, Edelman, MJones, Crowder, Cobb, Claypool, AGG, Miller (CHI), Humphries, Conley, David Moore, Demarcus Robinson, Gordon
TE- Olsen, Ian Thomas, Njoku
PK- Butker
PN- Cooke
DT- CJones, Ogunjobi, Kinlaw
DE- Hunter, DLaw, Young, Anderson, Turay
LB- Littleton, Mosley, D. Davis, Schobert, Bush, AJ Johnson, Walker, Evans, Burgess
CB- C Davis, Ward, Murphy-Bunting
S- JJ3, Walker, Williams, Rapp, Parks
Taxi: Oliver, Laird, Collier, Cominsky, Phillips, JAXWilliams, Harris, Willis
QB- Mahomes, Ryan
RB- Gordon, Ingram, Swift, Gore, Hyde, Ogunbowale
WR- Hopkins, KAllen, Lockett, Golladay, Fitz, Edelman, MJones, Crowder, Cobb, Claypool, AGG, Miller (CHI), Humphries, Conley, David Moore, Demarcus Robinson, Gordon
TE- Olsen, Ian Thomas, Njoku
PK- Butker
PN- Cooke
DT- CJones, Ogunjobi, Kinlaw
DE- Hunter, DLaw, Young, Anderson, Turay
LB- Littleton, Mosley, D. Davis, Schobert, Bush, AJ Johnson, Walker, Evans, Burgess
CB- C Davis, Ward, Murphy-Bunting
S- JJ3, Walker, Williams, Rapp, Parks
Taxi: Oliver, Laird, Collier, Cominsky, Phillips, JAXWilliams, Harris, Willis
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Re: Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps
I don't think it's that bad. But if you are leaning yes, tell him you need him to throw in a 2017 2nd , that way it will cover up any drop on the 1st. It will show how well he truly thinks he'll be able to swap if needed.
I'd advise against it, because then that means you can't trade either pick in season, right? Thus limiting your trading ability if you need to pick up a player for the stretch run.
I'd advise against it, because then that means you can't trade either pick in season, right? Thus limiting your trading ability if you need to pick up a player for the stretch run.
16 team 1ppr
Jackson, Tua, Bridgewater
Sutton, ARob, Higgins, D. Harris
Barkley, Chubb, McKissic, D. Williams, Felton
Piits, Tonyan, Smith
LB: Wilson, Parsons, Milano, Reddick, Baker, Greenlaw, Walker Jr.
DL: C. Heyward, Flowers, Hunter, Franklin-Myers
DB: Harrison Smith, Abram, Davis III, Bradberry, Maye
Team 2
16 Team 0.5 ppr
QB:Jackson, Mills, Eason, Newton
RB: Barkley/Najee/Gaskin/Hines/Sony/Johnson, Stevenson
WR: Chase/Juju/Aiyuk/Mike Williams/Beasley/N. Harry/Will Fuller/Cephus/D. Brown
TE: Pitts/Knox
DST:49ers, Titans
K: Koo
Team 3 2019 - Champion
12 team SF
Mahomes, Wentz, Jones
Mixon, Lindsay, Drake, Hines, Murray, Carter
Hopkins, M. Williams, Chase, McLaurin, Ridley, Samuel, Washington, Davis, D. Brown
Hockenson, Smith, Cook
Jackson, Tua, Bridgewater
Sutton, ARob, Higgins, D. Harris
Barkley, Chubb, McKissic, D. Williams, Felton
Piits, Tonyan, Smith
LB: Wilson, Parsons, Milano, Reddick, Baker, Greenlaw, Walker Jr.
DL: C. Heyward, Flowers, Hunter, Franklin-Myers
DB: Harrison Smith, Abram, Davis III, Bradberry, Maye
Team 2
16 Team 0.5 ppr
QB:Jackson, Mills, Eason, Newton
RB: Barkley/Najee/Gaskin/Hines/Sony/Johnson, Stevenson
WR: Chase/Juju/Aiyuk/Mike Williams/Beasley/N. Harry/Will Fuller/Cephus/D. Brown
TE: Pitts/Knox
DST:49ers, Titans
K: Koo
Team 3 2019 - Champion
12 team SF
Mahomes, Wentz, Jones
Mixon, Lindsay, Drake, Hines, Murray, Carter
Hopkins, M. Williams, Chase, McLaurin, Ridley, Samuel, Washington, Davis, D. Brown
Hockenson, Smith, Cook
Re: Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps
Final deal went through:
Gave:
Bruce Ellington
Rob Kelley
Got:
CJ Prosise
He retains the right to swap with either of my 1st round picks, but only if their teams make the playoffs. He must choose the swap prior to the wild card round and has the right to swap back the original deal at the cost of a 2017 2nd. Basically the swap can be at maximum from 1.14 to 1.9
Gave:
Bruce Ellington
Rob Kelley
Got:
CJ Prosise
He retains the right to swap with either of my 1st round picks, but only if their teams make the playoffs. He must choose the swap prior to the wild card round and has the right to swap back the original deal at the cost of a 2017 2nd. Basically the swap can be at maximum from 1.14 to 1.9
14 Team IDP League 0.5 PPR 1 QB/ 2 RB/ 2 WR / 1 TE/ 1 R/W/T/ 2 LB/ 2 DL/ 2 DB/ 1 K
Dez Hoes Ain't Loyal
QB: A. Rodgers, C. Newton
RB: L. McCoy, D. Murray, L. Miller, F. Gore,B. Powell, C. Sims, M. Brown, R. Kelley
WR: AJ Green, K. Allen, D. Thomas, R. Cobb, K. White, B. Cooks, D. Funchess
TE: J. Reed, T. Kelce, D. Allen
K: J. Tucker
LB: V. Miller, J. Houston, P. Posluszny, C. Mosley
DL JJ Watt, C. Avril
DB T. Mathieu
Dez Hoes Ain't Loyal
QB: A. Rodgers, C. Newton
RB: L. McCoy, D. Murray, L. Miller, F. Gore,B. Powell, C. Sims, M. Brown, R. Kelley
WR: AJ Green, K. Allen, D. Thomas, R. Cobb, K. White, B. Cooks, D. Funchess
TE: J. Reed, T. Kelce, D. Allen
K: J. Tucker
LB: V. Miller, J. Houston, P. Posluszny, C. Mosley
DL JJ Watt, C. Avril
DB T. Mathieu
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Re: Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps
What do you mean, has the right to swap back?duckman92 wrote:Final deal went through:
He retains the right to swap with either of my 1st round picks, but only if their teams make the playoffs. He must choose the swap prior to the wild card round and has the right to swap back the original deal at the cost of a 2017 2nd. Basically the swap can be at maximum from 1.14 to 1.9
He can get Procise back?
16 team 1ppr
Jackson, Tua, Bridgewater
Sutton, ARob, Higgins, D. Harris
Barkley, Chubb, McKissic, D. Williams, Felton
Piits, Tonyan, Smith
LB: Wilson, Parsons, Milano, Reddick, Baker, Greenlaw, Walker Jr.
DL: C. Heyward, Flowers, Hunter, Franklin-Myers
DB: Harrison Smith, Abram, Davis III, Bradberry, Maye
Team 2
16 Team 0.5 ppr
QB:Jackson, Mills, Eason, Newton
RB: Barkley/Najee/Gaskin/Hines/Sony/Johnson, Stevenson
WR: Chase/Juju/Aiyuk/Mike Williams/Beasley/N. Harry/Will Fuller/Cephus/D. Brown
TE: Pitts/Knox
DST:49ers, Titans
K: Koo
Team 3 2019 - Champion
12 team SF
Mahomes, Wentz, Jones
Mixon, Lindsay, Drake, Hines, Murray, Carter
Hopkins, M. Williams, Chase, McLaurin, Ridley, Samuel, Washington, Davis, D. Brown
Hockenson, Smith, Cook
Jackson, Tua, Bridgewater
Sutton, ARob, Higgins, D. Harris
Barkley, Chubb, McKissic, D. Williams, Felton
Piits, Tonyan, Smith
LB: Wilson, Parsons, Milano, Reddick, Baker, Greenlaw, Walker Jr.
DL: C. Heyward, Flowers, Hunter, Franklin-Myers
DB: Harrison Smith, Abram, Davis III, Bradberry, Maye
Team 2
16 Team 0.5 ppr
QB:Jackson, Mills, Eason, Newton
RB: Barkley/Najee/Gaskin/Hines/Sony/Johnson, Stevenson
WR: Chase/Juju/Aiyuk/Mike Williams/Beasley/N. Harry/Will Fuller/Cephus/D. Brown
TE: Pitts/Knox
DST:49ers, Titans
K: Koo
Team 3 2019 - Champion
12 team SF
Mahomes, Wentz, Jones
Mixon, Lindsay, Drake, Hines, Murray, Carter
Hopkins, M. Williams, Chase, McLaurin, Ridley, Samuel, Washington, Davis, D. Brown
Hockenson, Smith, Cook
Re: Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps
No he can get the 1st he swapped with me back depending on the outcome of the playoff gameSpartacusPTech wrote:What do you mean, has the right to swap back?duckman92 wrote:Final deal went through:
He retains the right to swap with either of my 1st round picks, but only if their teams make the playoffs. He must choose the swap prior to the wild card round and has the right to swap back the original deal at the cost of a 2017 2nd. Basically the swap can be at maximum from 1.14 to 1.9
He can get Procise back?
14 Team IDP League 0.5 PPR 1 QB/ 2 RB/ 2 WR / 1 TE/ 1 R/W/T/ 2 LB/ 2 DL/ 2 DB/ 1 K
Dez Hoes Ain't Loyal
QB: A. Rodgers, C. Newton
RB: L. McCoy, D. Murray, L. Miller, F. Gore,B. Powell, C. Sims, M. Brown, R. Kelley
WR: AJ Green, K. Allen, D. Thomas, R. Cobb, K. White, B. Cooks, D. Funchess
TE: J. Reed, T. Kelce, D. Allen
K: J. Tucker
LB: V. Miller, J. Houston, P. Posluszny, C. Mosley
DL JJ Watt, C. Avril
DB T. Mathieu
Dez Hoes Ain't Loyal
QB: A. Rodgers, C. Newton
RB: L. McCoy, D. Murray, L. Miller, F. Gore,B. Powell, C. Sims, M. Brown, R. Kelley
WR: AJ Green, K. Allen, D. Thomas, R. Cobb, K. White, B. Cooks, D. Funchess
TE: J. Reed, T. Kelce, D. Allen
K: J. Tucker
LB: V. Miller, J. Houston, P. Posluszny, C. Mosley
DL JJ Watt, C. Avril
DB T. Mathieu
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Re: Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps
Crikey, this is complicatedduckman92 wrote:Final deal went through:
Gave:
Bruce Ellington
Rob Kelley
Got:
CJ Prosise
He retains the right to swap with either of my 1st round picks, but only if their teams make the playoffs. He must choose the swap prior to the wild card round and has the right to swap back the original deal at the cost of a 2017 2nd. Basically the swap can be at maximum from 1.14 to 1.9
10 team PPR league, 24 man rosters, 5 man taxi, 5 man IR
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Howell, Trey Lance, Hendon Hooker (IR)
RB: Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson, Khalil Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Gus Edwards, Jerome Ford, Kendre Miller (TX), Roschon Johnson (TX), Pierre Strong (TX), Tyson Chandler (TX)
WR: Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, Kadarius Toney, Jayden Reed, John Metchie, Justyn Ross,
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Chigoziem Okonkwo, Sam LaPorta (TX), Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker (IR)
Draft Picks
2024: 1st
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Finishes:
2017 - Last
2018 - 2nd
2019 - CHAMPION
2020 - 7th
2021 - 2nd
2022 - CHAMPION
2023 - TBD
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Howell, Trey Lance, Hendon Hooker (IR)
RB: Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson, Khalil Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Gus Edwards, Jerome Ford, Kendre Miller (TX), Roschon Johnson (TX), Pierre Strong (TX), Tyson Chandler (TX)
WR: Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, Kadarius Toney, Jayden Reed, John Metchie, Justyn Ross,
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Chigoziem Okonkwo, Sam LaPorta (TX), Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker (IR)
Draft Picks
2024: 1st
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Finishes:
2017 - Last
2018 - 2nd
2019 - CHAMPION
2020 - 7th
2021 - 2nd
2022 - CHAMPION
2023 - TBD
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Re: Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps
oh ok. Seems like a lot of work for Procise.duckman92 wrote:No he can get the 1st he swapped with me back depending on the outcome of the playoff gameSpartacusPTech wrote:What do you mean, has the right to swap back?duckman92 wrote:Final deal went through:
He retains the right to swap with either of my 1st round picks, but only if their teams make the playoffs. He must choose the swap prior to the wild card round and has the right to swap back the original deal at the cost of a 2017 2nd. Basically the swap can be at maximum from 1.14 to 1.9
He can get Procise back?
16 team 1ppr
Jackson, Tua, Bridgewater
Sutton, ARob, Higgins, D. Harris
Barkley, Chubb, McKissic, D. Williams, Felton
Piits, Tonyan, Smith
LB: Wilson, Parsons, Milano, Reddick, Baker, Greenlaw, Walker Jr.
DL: C. Heyward, Flowers, Hunter, Franklin-Myers
DB: Harrison Smith, Abram, Davis III, Bradberry, Maye
Team 2
16 Team 0.5 ppr
QB:Jackson, Mills, Eason, Newton
RB: Barkley/Najee/Gaskin/Hines/Sony/Johnson, Stevenson
WR: Chase/Juju/Aiyuk/Mike Williams/Beasley/N. Harry/Will Fuller/Cephus/D. Brown
TE: Pitts/Knox
DST:49ers, Titans
K: Koo
Team 3 2019 - Champion
12 team SF
Mahomes, Wentz, Jones
Mixon, Lindsay, Drake, Hines, Murray, Carter
Hopkins, M. Williams, Chase, McLaurin, Ridley, Samuel, Washington, Davis, D. Brown
Hockenson, Smith, Cook
Jackson, Tua, Bridgewater
Sutton, ARob, Higgins, D. Harris
Barkley, Chubb, McKissic, D. Williams, Felton
Piits, Tonyan, Smith
LB: Wilson, Parsons, Milano, Reddick, Baker, Greenlaw, Walker Jr.
DL: C. Heyward, Flowers, Hunter, Franklin-Myers
DB: Harrison Smith, Abram, Davis III, Bradberry, Maye
Team 2
16 Team 0.5 ppr
QB:Jackson, Mills, Eason, Newton
RB: Barkley/Najee/Gaskin/Hines/Sony/Johnson, Stevenson
WR: Chase/Juju/Aiyuk/Mike Williams/Beasley/N. Harry/Will Fuller/Cephus/D. Brown
TE: Pitts/Knox
DST:49ers, Titans
K: Koo
Team 3 2019 - Champion
12 team SF
Mahomes, Wentz, Jones
Mixon, Lindsay, Drake, Hines, Murray, Carter
Hopkins, M. Williams, Chase, McLaurin, Ridley, Samuel, Washington, Davis, D. Brown
Hockenson, Smith, Cook
Re: Interesting Trade Offer with Pick Swaps
I like the trade for you. Ellington's only hope of ever being fantasy relevant again if a couple injuries happen in front of him, and that would be short lived, while Kelley will be a short lived fad. So you are getting Prosise for potentially moving down a couple spots in the late 1st.duckman92 wrote:Final deal went through:
Gave:
Bruce Ellington
Rob Kelley
Got:
CJ Prosise
He retains the right to swap with either of my 1st round picks, but only if their teams make the playoffs. He must choose the swap prior to the wild card round and has the right to swap back the original deal at the cost of a 2017 2nd. Basically the swap can be at maximum from 1.14 to 1.9
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