Trade away Brady?

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Re: Trade away Brady?

Postby skip » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:07 am

nightmarion wrote:Gore is a modest improvement on Grant? I'm sorry but I have Gore ranked much, much higher than Grant. I have Gore ranked at #5 in PPR, and #4 in non-PPR (Ray Rice has a slight advantage in PPR IMO). Not only has he posted strong stats to support this in previous seasons, but now he has an improved O-Line and what should be a stronger passing game. Grant has Rodgers stealing TD's on the ground inside the 5. He simply is just not the same caliber player that Gore is. Not to mention Gore is the centerpiece of his offense, so you never have to worry about him getting his touches. And Gore doesn't have to face the Williams' Wall twice a season.
Grant and Gore are both 27 years old, thus the lengths of their careers is going to be roughly the same.
Grant is going to get 300 carries to Gore's 230 or so because the 49ers year over year have shown the wonderful wisdom of taking the ball out of the hands of their best player.
Last season the two were separated by 30 points in ppr leagues, which is a relatively small margin. (my main league is 0.5 ppr and the gap was 20, in non-ppr even smaller...)

You state that Grant is losing TDs inside the 5. Yes, Grant plays in a much better offense - but the Packers don't ignore the running game for the sake of throwing the football. He still saw 11 TDs on the ground last season, which is more than Gore has had at any point in his entire career.

The only reason people have Grant ranked so low is that they believe his job is threatened while Gore has a stranglehold on his. Let's not forget that Grant played hurt the entire 2008 season and still managed over 300 carries and 1300 yards.

I am a huge fan of Gore and agree that he is the #5 dynasty RB, but unless the 49ers give him 275+ carries, his ceiling is limited. My comments about the two being close in value are more about how underrated owners have Grant and less about Gore.
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Re: Trade away Brady?

Postby nightmarion » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:11 am

I just don't see Grant as a top 10 RB while Gore is certainly at least close to top 5. Like you said, Gore is the workhorse back in SF, he will see no challenges for touches. He has an improved O-line. And he has an OC for a second straight season (for once) that is focused on using Gore the way he should be used. In my league the difference between Gore and Grant was just shy of 100 points. When you're talking 400 points is a big total for a RB in this league (only CJ and AP reached that threshold last season), thats a substantial difference.
16 team league, non-PPR standard scoring plus bonuses. $200 cap
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