C. Hyde/C. Michael
C. Hyde/C. Michael
Thoughts on C. Hyde and C. Michael. If Michael was in this rookie draft would he be higher than Hyde? Is Michael worth more than a 1.03 in this rookie draft?
Re: C. Hyde/C. Michael
Seeing as both have a better chance at contributing in 2015 rather than 2014, i think it's a matter of preference. They play in the same division so that's a wash, each has a younger team with a solid O-line, and each has a semi-mobile QB who's still learning to be a top notch QB and both are playing behind aging all-pro's. Although Gore is 31 and Lynch is technically only 28, but the carries add up. Again, many similarities.
Looking at their combine measurables:
Michael: 5'10", 220lbs, 4.54 40, 27 reps, 43in vert, 6.69 3-cone drill
Hyde: 6'0", 230 lbs, 4.66 40, 19 reps, 34.5 vert, didn't do 3 cone drill
Hyde is a little bigger back, but Michael is clearly the more explosive back. In this situation, I think you have to watch the tape and figure out which one you think has the individual qualities to be a high performing RB. To me, that's Michael. His explosion is clear when you watch him play and it get's you excited. Hyde is a pounding back, but he doesn't do much that makes you go "WOW". He may very well be a top 15 back if he's given 15-20 carries a game, but I'd take a chance on Michael being a top 5 guy as he has the talent to do so, which I don't think Hyde does.
Looking at their combine measurables:
Michael: 5'10", 220lbs, 4.54 40, 27 reps, 43in vert, 6.69 3-cone drill
Hyde: 6'0", 230 lbs, 4.66 40, 19 reps, 34.5 vert, didn't do 3 cone drill
Hyde is a little bigger back, but Michael is clearly the more explosive back. In this situation, I think you have to watch the tape and figure out which one you think has the individual qualities to be a high performing RB. To me, that's Michael. His explosion is clear when you watch him play and it get's you excited. Hyde is a pounding back, but he doesn't do much that makes you go "WOW". He may very well be a top 15 back if he's given 15-20 carries a game, but I'd take a chance on Michael being a top 5 guy as he has the talent to do so, which I don't think Hyde does.
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Re: C. Hyde/C. Michael
Only thing that scares me about Michael is that he's never been able to shoulder a lead backs carries. Otherwise it's easily Michael, and that's tough for me to say as a Niner's fan.KCLep20 wrote:Seeing as both have a better chance at contributing in 2015 rather than 2014, i think it's a matter of preference. They play in the same division so that's a wash, each has a younger team with a solid O-line, and each has a semi-mobile QB who's still learning to be a top notch QB and both are playing behind aging all-pro's. Although Gore is 31 and Lynch is technically only 28, but the carries add up. Again, many similarities.
Looking at their combine measurables:
Michael: 5'10", 220lbs, 4.54 40, 27 reps, 43in vert, 6.69 3-cone drill
Hyde: 6'0", 230 lbs, 4.66 40, 19 reps, 34.5 vert, didn't do 3 cone drill
Hyde is a little bigger back, but Michael is clearly the more explosive back. In this situation, I think you have to watch the tape and figure out which one you think has the individual qualities to be a high performing RB. To me, that's Michael. His explosion is clear when you watch him play and it get's you excited. Hyde is a pounding back, but he doesn't do much that makes you go "WOW". He may very well be a top 15 back if he's given 15-20 carries a game, but I'd take a chance on Michael being a top 5 guy as he has the talent to do so, which I don't think Hyde does.
Re: C. Hyde/C. Michael
you have to say Michael even if you are not sold on him. his value is so hyped right now you have to take him based on that alone
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Re: C. Hyde/C. Michael
I might not be a lot of help here. I couldn't choose between them. So, in my two most recent drafts I took both.
For what it's worth, each time I took Michael then Hyde
If there are two upcoming RB's I wouldn't want to miss out on, it's the 49ers and Seahawk RB's
For what it's worth, each time I took Michael then Hyde
If there are two upcoming RB's I wouldn't want to miss out on, it's the 49ers and Seahawk RB's
Re: C. Hyde/C. Michael
on value alone...i thought i would put this trade that i accepted a few weeks ago out there. had not previously been approached by this owner about michael, this just showed up in my trade box. i accepted, but did consider declining. i thought to myself if your going to sell michael, what more could i possibly expect to get.
gave michael
received hyde and sankey.
gave michael
received hyde and sankey.
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Re: C. Hyde/C. Michael
I'd take Hyde, I know Michael is a hot name in dynasty leagues and he has a clearer path than Hyde does to a starting job (Hunter and Lattimore). But Lynch is three years younger than Gore and could be playing in 2015, 2016 and maybe beyond. And I personally don't buy that the talk that Seattle will be a RB by comittee this year, not if Lynch is as dominant as he's been.
10 team PPR league (QB) (RB) (RB) (RB/WR) (WR) (WR) (WR/TE) (TE) (K) (DST)
QB-Andrew Luck Eli Manning Alex Smith Geno Smith
RB-Todd Gurley Carlos Hyde Alfred Morris Mark Ingram Gio Benard Isiah Crowell
WR-Julio Jones Demaryius Thomas Sammy Watkins Jarvis Landry Torrey Smith Brandon Lafell Phillip Dorsett Josh Huff
TE-Zach Ertz Dwayne Allen Eric Ebron
DST-Houston Carolina
K-Adam Vinatieri
QB-Andrew Luck Eli Manning Alex Smith Geno Smith
RB-Todd Gurley Carlos Hyde Alfred Morris Mark Ingram Gio Benard Isiah Crowell
WR-Julio Jones Demaryius Thomas Sammy Watkins Jarvis Landry Torrey Smith Brandon Lafell Phillip Dorsett Josh Huff
TE-Zach Ertz Dwayne Allen Eric Ebron
DST-Houston Carolina
K-Adam Vinatieri
Re: C. Hyde/C. Michael
i would also have taken this all day, every day. Well done.sloth8u wrote:on value alone...i thought i would put this trade that i accepted a few weeks ago out there. had not previously been approached by this owner about michael, this just showed up in my trade box. i accepted, but did consider declining. i thought to myself if your going to sell michael, what more could i possibly expect to get.
gave michael
received hyde and sankey.
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'Ships: 2008, 2017, 2019, 2021; 2nd place: 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022
12 team PPR with 14 Keepers/year
2023 Draft Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 3.04, 3.07, 5.04
QB: L.Jackson, J. Burrow, G. Minshew, J. Winston
RB: J.Mixon, ETN, Jav.Williams, J.Conner, Z.Moss, JK Dobbins (IR), N.Chubb (IR)
WR: AJB, CD Lamb, DK, C.Sutton
TE: M.Andrews, T.McBride, I. Likely
'Ships: 2008, 2017, 2019, 2021; 2nd place: 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022
12 team PPR with 14 Keepers/year
2023 Draft Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 3.04, 3.07, 5.04
QB: L.Jackson, J. Burrow, G. Minshew, J. Winston
RB: J.Mixon, ETN, Jav.Williams, J.Conner, Z.Moss, JK Dobbins (IR), N.Chubb (IR)
WR: AJB, CD Lamb, DK, C.Sutton
TE: M.Andrews, T.McBride, I. Likely
Re: C. Hyde/C. Michael
I don't disagree that Lynch will still be playing the next few years but I don't see him in Seattle. Salary will be high and they will need to pay RWill. I think Christine is the man there next season. It's tough to put a ton of money in an aging rb with a ton of mileage.Football_Guy wrote:I'd take Hyde, I know Michael is a hot name in dynasty leagues and he has a clearer path than Hyde does to a starting job (Hunter and Lattimore). But Lynch is three years younger than Gore and could be playing in 2015, 2016 and maybe beyond. And I personally don't buy that the talk that Seattle will be a RB by comittee this year, not if Lynch is as dominant as he's been.
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Re: C. Hyde/C. Michael
I try not to build my fantasy teams around star players who "might be" potential salary cap casualties somewhere down the road. BUT to each their own...jpatern21 wrote:I don't disagree that Lynch will still be playing the next few years but I don't see him in Seattle. Salary will be high and they will need to pay RWill. I think Christine is the man there next season. It's tough to put a ton of money in an aging rb with a ton of mileage.Football_Guy wrote:I'd take Hyde, I know Michael is a hot name in dynasty leagues and he has a clearer path than Hyde does to a starting job (Hunter and Lattimore). But Lynch is three years younger than Gore and could be playing in 2015, 2016 and maybe beyond. And I personally don't buy that the talk that Seattle will be a RB by comittee this year, not if Lynch is as dominant as he's been.
10 team PPR league (QB) (RB) (RB) (RB/WR) (WR) (WR) (WR/TE) (TE) (K) (DST)
QB-Andrew Luck Eli Manning Alex Smith Geno Smith
RB-Todd Gurley Carlos Hyde Alfred Morris Mark Ingram Gio Benard Isiah Crowell
WR-Julio Jones Demaryius Thomas Sammy Watkins Jarvis Landry Torrey Smith Brandon Lafell Phillip Dorsett Josh Huff
TE-Zach Ertz Dwayne Allen Eric Ebron
DST-Houston Carolina
K-Adam Vinatieri
QB-Andrew Luck Eli Manning Alex Smith Geno Smith
RB-Todd Gurley Carlos Hyde Alfred Morris Mark Ingram Gio Benard Isiah Crowell
WR-Julio Jones Demaryius Thomas Sammy Watkins Jarvis Landry Torrey Smith Brandon Lafell Phillip Dorsett Josh Huff
TE-Zach Ertz Dwayne Allen Eric Ebron
DST-Houston Carolina
K-Adam Vinatieri
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