Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins

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Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins

CEH
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26%
JK Dobbins
54
74%
 
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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins

Postby StripesOfKC » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:59 pm

I own both and slightly prefer CEH--as contrary it is to public opinion

I think Dobbins is a marginally more talented runner but I see more pass catching and TD potential with Clyde

I don't think you can really go wrong either way though. They both showed signs of being studs IMO

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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins

Postby MaddMadden » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:23 pm

I'm a huge CEH fan. The fact that he is being looked at as the 5th/6th ranked RB in the class is laughable.
10 team half-PPR league. Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, 2DE, DT, 2LB, S, CB, 2IDP. 40man roster. Salary Cap pinned to NFL.

2022 picks: 1st, 3rd
2023 picks: 2 1st, 2 2nd, 3 3rd, 2 4ths

Players under contracts 2021 (years)
QB: K. Murray (3), T. Lance (4)
RB: S. Barkley (4), C. Edwards-Helaire (3+1), J. Jacobs (4), M. Davis (1), D. Henderson (1), AJ Dillon (3), Z. Moss (3), T. Pollard (2), T. Etienne (4)
WR: DK Metcalf (2), C. Ridley (2), T. McLaurin (2), J. Chase (4), R. Bateman (4), E. Moore (4), R. Moore (4), J. Reagor (3), B. Edwards (3), KJ Hamler (3)
TE: G. Kittle (3), A. Trautman (3)
K: Y. Koo (1)
DE: D. Hunter (1), C. Young (3+1), J. Bosa (2), J. Allen (2), K. Paye (4)
DT: A. Donald (2), Q. Williams (3)
LB: D. Leonard (2), R. Smith (3), F. Warner (3) P. Queen (3), I. Simmons (3), J. Davis (4)
S: D. James (2), R. Grant (4)
CB: K. Moore (2)

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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins

Postby murphysxm » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:14 pm

MaddMadden wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:23 pm I'm a huge CEH fan. The fact that he is being looked at as the 5th/6th ranked RB in the class is laughable.
Laughable is a big word. I 100% have JT, Dobbins and Swift ahead of him. And there is no way I can’t consider Gibson and Robinson as at least his equal. I see this as a bad take.
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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins

Postby Iamwebb223 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:11 pm

murphysxm wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:14 pm
MaddMadden wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:23 pm I'm a huge CEH fan. The fact that he is being looked at as the 5th/6th ranked RB in the class is laughable.
Laughable is a big word. I 100% have JT, Dobbins and Swift ahead of him. And there is no way I can’t consider Gibson and Robinson as at least his equal. I see this as a bad take.
Don't forget about Akers as well....
Team 1 - 12 Team 20 man ros. TD Heavy - Big Play Bonuses, 3 pts. Every 25 yds. Rush/Rec.
QB - J. Hurts
RB - J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, R. Stevenson, D. Harris
WR - J. Jefferson, DK, G. Wilson, C. Olave
TE - M. Andrews, McBride

2021 League Champ

Team 2 - 10 Team 22 man rosters/PPR BIG PLAY TD BONUSES, 1 pt. 10 yds. Rush/Rec. 2 flex
QB - J. Herbert
RB - Saquon, JK Dobbins, 1.01(Bijan), C. Patterson
WR - AJBrown, J. Waddle, G. Wilson, C. Kirk
TE - Goedert

5 Time League Champ

Team 3 - 12 Team 22 man rosters PPR/BIG PLAY BONUS TD’s, RB & TE Premium
QB - J. Herbert
RB - J. Taylor, E. Elliott, D. Henry
WR - C. Kupp, J. Jefferson, Deebo, Amon Ra
TE - T. Kelce, I. Smith Jr.
2023 2 1sts

2021 League Champ

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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins

Postby StripesOfKC » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:56 pm

murphysxm wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:14 pm
MaddMadden wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:23 pm I'm a huge CEH fan. The fact that he is being looked at as the 5th/6th ranked RB in the class is laughable.
Laughable is a big word. I 100% have JT, Dobbins and Swift ahead of him. And there is no way I can’t consider Gibson and Robinson as at least his equal. I see this as a bad take.
I own both and I'm not sure about Dobbins over CEH. Better player but situation wise I don't see the same upside

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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins

Postby MaddMadden » Sat May 01, 2021 9:13 pm

StripesOfKC wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:56 pm
murphysxm wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:14 pm
MaddMadden wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:23 pm I'm a huge CEH fan. The fact that he is being looked at as the 5th/6th ranked RB in the class is laughable.
Laughable is a big word. I 100% have JT, Dobbins and Swift ahead of him. And there is no way I can’t consider Gibson and Robinson as at least his equal. I see this as a bad take.
I own both and I'm not sure about Dobbins over CEH. Better player but situation wise I don't see the same upside
One of the reasons why CEH is preferable is that ge plays in a consistent system with the best quarterback in football who is signed for 10 years. This necessitates (eventual) investment in the O Line which even if secondary improves prospects in the running game.

He is an electric player who had some TDs called back on penalties and missed 3 games. He managed 1100 yards in those 13 games even though Bell cut into his workload some. Bell is gone as is Williams after the opt out.

Go down the list and I think it's hard to pick a better situation than him. Talent wise he is at the very least the 4th best in the class, but situation is a huge tail wind.

Not a bad take. Putting a UDFA and a TD dependent guy in a trasforming offense ahead of him is a bad take IMO.

Recency bias is real. CEH missed time at the end of the year when everyone else was finding the field.

JT hovered around a 50% snap count most of the year and now Mack is coming back off injury.

Dobbins has as much competition as any back in the league.

Akers emerged late, small sample but talented.

Swift is a dog.
10 team half-PPR league. Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, 2DE, DT, 2LB, S, CB, 2IDP. 40man roster. Salary Cap pinned to NFL.

2022 picks: 1st, 3rd
2023 picks: 2 1st, 2 2nd, 3 3rd, 2 4ths

Players under contracts 2021 (years)
QB: K. Murray (3), T. Lance (4)
RB: S. Barkley (4), C. Edwards-Helaire (3+1), J. Jacobs (4), M. Davis (1), D. Henderson (1), AJ Dillon (3), Z. Moss (3), T. Pollard (2), T. Etienne (4)
WR: DK Metcalf (2), C. Ridley (2), T. McLaurin (2), J. Chase (4), R. Bateman (4), E. Moore (4), R. Moore (4), J. Reagor (3), B. Edwards (3), KJ Hamler (3)
TE: G. Kittle (3), A. Trautman (3)
K: Y. Koo (1)
DE: D. Hunter (1), C. Young (3+1), J. Bosa (2), J. Allen (2), K. Paye (4)
DT: A. Donald (2), Q. Williams (3)
LB: D. Leonard (2), R. Smith (3), F. Warner (3) P. Queen (3), I. Simmons (3), J. Davis (4)
S: D. James (2), R. Grant (4)
CB: K. Moore (2)


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