Higgins or Mims?
Higgins or Mims?
Sitting at 2.03 and love Pittman but thinking he may be gone by then. If that’s the case, who do you like more?
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Re: Higgins or Mims?
Higgins. I love that he will learn from Green and grow with Burrow.
Re: Higgins or Mims?
I have Mimms. Not sure if Higgins fits modern NFL schemes due to lack of speed and separation.
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Re: Higgins or Mims?
Higgins, went against much better competition and regardless of speed and separation he put up great numbers.
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Re: Higgins or Mims?
This is a tough call.
I love that Higgins gets to grow with a stud rookie QB and that he put up good numbers. The lack of separation skills does worry me.
Mims has the look of a #1 WR and his testing numbers are great. However I don't really see his speed and separation skills show up when I have watched him. I think Darnold is going to be really good but freaking Gase is his coach. After Gase gets fired will the next coach be invested in Mind??
All that said...I would take Higgins right now.
I love that Higgins gets to grow with a stud rookie QB and that he put up good numbers. The lack of separation skills does worry me.
Mims has the look of a #1 WR and his testing numbers are great. However I don't really see his speed and separation skills show up when I have watched him. I think Darnold is going to be really good but freaking Gase is his coach. After Gase gets fired will the next coach be invested in Mind??
All that said...I would take Higgins right now.
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Re: Higgins or Mims?
Mims. Higgins runs like he has cement blocks for feet.
Re: Higgins or Mims?
Higgins, not close.
Mims was a second rounder (barely) because of his physical attributes, however, I’m not convinced he is particularly good at football. He’s a classic “get him in the building and we’ll teach him to play football” prospect, and I am generally never in on those types. Especially when the teacher is Adam Gase.
He’s being priced as if he is already the #1, but it wouldn’t be all that surprising to me if he never beats out Perriman, who is the better athlete and has shown he can actually play a little.
People in on Mims are in for a rough one when he barely sees the field this year. He’s a developmental guy.
Mims was a second rounder (barely) because of his physical attributes, however, I’m not convinced he is particularly good at football. He’s a classic “get him in the building and we’ll teach him to play football” prospect, and I am generally never in on those types. Especially when the teacher is Adam Gase.
He’s being priced as if he is already the #1, but it wouldn’t be all that surprising to me if he never beats out Perriman, who is the better athlete and has shown he can actually play a little.
People in on Mims are in for a rough one when he barely sees the field this year. He’s a developmental guy.
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Re: Higgins or Mims?
Take out the Gase part and substitute Lockett (a player far better than draft bust Perriman who showed nothing until the final two weeks last season) for Perriman and this sounds exactly like a certain player last year.PR0v3 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:44 pm Higgins, not close.
Mims was a second rounder (barely) because of his physical attributes, however, I’m not convinced he is particularly good at football. He’s a classic “get him in the building and we’ll teach him to play football” prospect, and I am generally never in on those types. Especially when the teacher is Adam Gase.
He’s being priced as if he is already the #1, but it wouldn’t be all that surprising to me if he never beats out Perriman, who is the better athlete and has shown he can actually play a little.
People in on Mims are in for a rough one when he barely sees the field this year. He’s a developmental guy.
For my part, I say it's a coin flip. Got Mims in my rookie draft but Higgins went two picks prior. Would have had a decision on my hands if he fell
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Yeah, I don't agree with the analysis you are commenting on at all. He knows how to play football IMO, and he will see the field. The idea the HC teaches guys to play football, well, IDK what to really say about that. Perriman also isn't the better athlete, he's just faster. I think it's very close between the two, Mims and Higgins.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 10:13 pmTake out the Gase part and substitute Lockett (a player far better than draft bust Perriman who showed nothing until the final two weeks last season) for Perriman and this sounds exactly like a certain player last year.PR0v3 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:44 pm Higgins, not close.
Mims was a second rounder (barely) because of his physical attributes, however, I’m not convinced he is particularly good at football. He’s a classic “get him in the building and we’ll teach him to play football” prospect, and I am generally never in on those types. Especially when the teacher is Adam Gase.
He’s being priced as if he is already the #1, but it wouldn’t be all that surprising to me if he never beats out Perriman, who is the better athlete and has shown he can actually play a little.
People in on Mims are in for a rough one when he barely sees the field this year. He’s a developmental guy.
For my part, I say it's a coin flip. Got Mims in my rookie draft but Higgins went two picks prior. Would have had a decision on my hands if he fell
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Re: Higgins or Mims?
So I had a choice between Higgins/Pittman and Mims at 2.04. I was hoping one fell to me, and then they all did. So I had to make a decision. I ultimately went with Higgins, since I think he will have the best QB over the next 5 years. I am not sold on Darnold. And what happens in Indianapolis in the future? I believe if their situation were all the same, I'd have went Pittman.
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Re: Higgins or Mims?
This is really something I'm still digging deep into sitting on the 2.02 and 2.03 picks in a ten-team rookie draft. I have Higgins, Mims, Pittman and Shenault in the same tier. If one wants 2020 fantasy numbers, Pittman catching from Rivers opposite T.Y. Hilton reminds me of the kind of opportunity Malcolm Floyd had with the Chargers opposite V-Jax. If I'm weighing the QB each has over the mid- to long-term, Higgins being paired with Burrow seems the most solid bet, as some have already mentioned here. On total package of talent, Matt Waldman - whose skill at scouting prospects has always served me well, is highest on Mims. Last year he was high on A.J. Brown and a lot of folks didn't like his situation with Mariota and we all know now how once the QB changed the talent rose to the occasion. Of the four, Shenault feels like the odd man out, maybe that bumps him to the next tier. So I voted for Mims in the poll above but may well change my mind by the time the draft rolls around in August. Plan on watching more tape between now and then.
A related internal debate is what to do if both Higgins and Burrow are available in the early second round: pick one, pick the other, or stack them?
A related internal debate is what to do if both Higgins and Burrow are available in the early second round: pick one, pick the other, or stack them?
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Re: Higgins or Mims?
Give me Higgins, but I'm a little higher on him than most by having him as my WR3 in this class. I like his situation as well if you can be patient and wait out 2020. If AJ Green gets injured or gets traded, then he could prove to be a steal for 2020 with where he's going in drafts.
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Re: Higgins or Mims?
How exactly is a player who logged significantly more yardage than the other player with a way worse QB a “get in the building and teach him to play football all” prospect while the other is a polished product?PR0v3 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:44 pm Higgins, not close.
Mims was a second rounder (barely) because of his physical attributes, however, I’m not convinced he is particularly good at football. He’s a classic “get him in the building and we’ll teach him to play football” prospect, and I am generally never in on those types. Especially when the teacher is Adam Gase.
He’s being priced as if he is already the #1, but it wouldn’t be all that surprising to me if he never beats out Perriman, who is the better athlete and has shown he can actually play a little.
People in on Mims are in for a rough one when he barely sees the field this year. He’s a developmental guy.
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I don’t care about college stats, they are pretty meaningless to me.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:57 pmHow exactly is a player who logged significantly more yardage than the other player with a way worse QB a “get in the building and teach him to play football all” prospect while the other is a polished product?PR0v3 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 9:44 pm Higgins, not close.
Mims was a second rounder (barely) because of his physical attributes, however, I’m not convinced he is particularly good at football. He’s a classic “get him in the building and we’ll teach him to play football” prospect, and I am generally never in on those types. Especially when the teacher is Adam Gase.
He’s being priced as if he is already the #1, but it wouldn’t be all that surprising to me if he never beats out Perriman, who is the better athlete and has shown he can actually play a little.
People in on Mims are in for a rough one when he barely sees the field this year. He’s a developmental guy.
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