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Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby j2cain » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:45 am

If you had the choice of one moving forward, who would you prefer?

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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:32 am

Murray. We know he can play in the NFL already. Burrow looks great, but lots of QB's have coming out of college.

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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby Zech13 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:29 pm

I'd say Murray as well, he was productive in the run game and passing game as a rookie. He should continue to improve.
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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby Blueboy » Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:21 pm

I liked Murray more as a prospect, and he exceeded my expectations as a rookie. So I'm taking him, though I like Burrow too.

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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:25 pm

Burrow is the better QB coming out of college, no question IMO. However Kyler went to an ideal situation to maximize his skill set. I have huge reservations about the Bengals franchise, they are one of the worst. Not teams, but franchise. Ownership and structure. I'd probably lean Kyler due to this, but in a vacuum, I'd take Joe, because he's the better QB IMO. Kyler is no slouch, though, and it's close enough that I'd probably lean that way. Kyler was good this year in the pros. Nothing special, but very solid. I think Burrow will be too. It's really close for me.

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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby briank » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:57 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:32 am
Murray. We know he can play in the NFL already. Burrow looks great, but lots of QB's have coming out of college.
At this point it has to be Murray, but It wont surprise me one bit if Burrow passes him this year.
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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby AussieMate » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:07 pm

Depends on my team situation. If I need QB I'll take Murray, If I'm fairly solid I'd punt on Burrow as I'm not the biggest Murray fan and think Burrow has such bigger upside.

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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby DynastyIsDaBest » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:37 pm

Murray looks great and should have a nice year two leap. Burrow looks pretty legit though too but the Bengals are not a well run franchise and needs work

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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:41 am

Burrow IMO is a better prospect than Murray is a passer, but Murray's rushing ability gives him Lamar esque upside.
Murray for me

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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:25 am

Mjvb5 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:41 am
Burrow IMO is a better prospect than Murray is a passer, but Murray's rushing ability gives him Lamar esque upside.
Murray for me
I agree he has a nice rushing upside, but I don't think anyone comes close to Lamar for that. Murray does not have close to that upside, and they don't feature him as a runner like Lamar. I think his rushing last year is what you should expect yearly, not much more.

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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:02 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:25 am
Mjvb5 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:41 am
Burrow IMO is a better prospect than Murray is a passer, but Murray's rushing ability gives him Lamar esque upside.
Murray for me
I agree he has a nice rushing upside, but I don't think anyone comes close to Lamar for that. Murray does not have close to that upside, and they don't feature him as a runner like Lamar. I think his rushing last year is what you should expect yearly, not much more.
That's true, lamar really is the only one who will be able to do that. I mean Lamar was straight up the #7 rusher this past year. Kyler I'm guessing sits in the 4-700 range

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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby mild » Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:09 pm

Mjvb5 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:02 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:25 am
Mjvb5 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:41 am
Burrow IMO is a better prospect than Murray is a passer, but Murray's rushing ability gives him Lamar esque upside.
Murray for me
I agree he has a nice rushing upside, but I don't think anyone comes close to Lamar for that. Murray does not have close to that upside, and they don't feature him as a runner like Lamar. I think his rushing last year is what you should expect yearly, not much more.
That's true, lamar really is the only one who will be able to do that. I mean Lamar was straight up the #7 rusher this past year. Kyler I'm guessing sits in the 4-700 range
Kyler - rookie year - 544 yards rushing and 4 TD's on the ground.

Just a casual extra 78.4 points making up his total of 283.8 fantasy points on the year in a 4pt per passing TD league. Good enough for 8th QB overall, whilst behind a TERRIBLE O-line with a bunch of questionable weapons.

"Half as good as Lamar on the ground" ain't bad at all for a rookie. And he's only going to get better.

Give me Kyler, with that rushing floor in a high volume attack. I don't doubt that Burrow will be damn good and do a little rushing in his own right, but man... do you really want to have to watch Bengals games every week? #FreeYourMind

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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:27 pm

mild wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:09 pm
Mjvb5 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:02 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:25 am


I agree he has a nice rushing upside, but I don't think anyone comes close to Lamar for that. Murray does not have close to that upside, and they don't feature him as a runner like Lamar. I think his rushing last year is what you should expect yearly, not much more.
That's true, lamar really is the only one who will be able to do that. I mean Lamar was straight up the #7 rusher this past year. Kyler I'm guessing sits in the 4-700 range
Kyler - rookie year - 544 yards rushing and 4 TD's on the ground.

Just a casual extra 78.4 points making up his total of 283.8 fantasy points on the year in a 4pt per passing TD league. Good enough for 8th QB overall, whilst behind a TERRIBLE O-line with a bunch of questionable weapons.

"Half as good as Lamar on the ground" ain't bad at all for a rookie. And he's only going to get better.

Give me Kyler, with that rushing floor in a high volume attack. I don't doubt that Burrow will be damn good and do a little rushing in his own right, but man... do you really want to have to watch Bengals games every week? #FreeYourMind
Maybe. That didn't work out so well for Baker, when people said that after his rookie year. He probably will, but I find in general statements like that on young QB's don't always work out. Growth isn't always linear. I think Burrow will be the better pro, but chances are Kyler will outscore him next year.

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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:54 am

briank wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:57 pm
Gator Sens wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:32 am
Murray. We know he can play in the NFL already. Burrow looks great, but lots of QB's have coming out of college.
At this point it has to be Murray, but It wont surprise me one bit if Burrow passes him this year.
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My QB top 10 (11) on dynasty value, not how I think they finish in scoring this year:

1 Mahomes
2 Lamar
3 Watson
4 Wilson
5 Kyler
6 Wentz
7 Dak/Burrow really can't decide here
9 Allen
10 Matt Ryan/Rodgers again very torn on who to rank ahead of the other.

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Re: Kyler Murray/Joe Burrow

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:22 am

bjd5211 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:54 am
briank wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:57 pm
Gator Sens wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:32 am
Murray. We know he can play in the NFL already. Burrow looks great, but lots of QB's have coming out of college.
At this point it has to be Murray, but It wont surprise me one bit if Burrow passes him this year.
This

My QB top 10 (11) on dynasty value, not how I think they finish in scoring this year:

1 Mahomes
2 Lamar
3 Watson
4 Wilson
5 Kyler
6 Wentz
7 Dak/Burrow really can't decide here
9 Allen
10 Matt Ryan/Rodgers again very torn on who to rank ahead of the other.
honestly this spot can go to sooo many different guys so I get not being able to decide on which one


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