MThom vs OBJ

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Who for the rest of forever?

MThom
25
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OBJ
28
53%
 
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MThom vs OBJ

Postby Slackalacker » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:10 pm

Sorry if this exists already the search function is sucking for me

Who would you rate higher between Michael Thomas and OBJ?

To me of all the young WR Studs Hopkins is the clear WR1 with Adams maybe WR2 because Nuk has performed with all kinds of mediocre QBs and Rodgers will be elite for a few more years at least.

3/4 For me would be OBJ or MT. Both are 26 (MT is 6 months younger). MT has 2 less years in the league. OBJ has had a couple more injuries than MT.

But also OBJ has had success with a less successful QB (Eli vs Brees). My biggest concern is whether or not MT could be just as successful with a mediocre QB whenever brees decides to retire where as I have more confidence in OBJ to perform with mediocre QBs.

All this to say who would you rather own for the rest of their career and why?
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QB: Dak - Hurts - DangeRuss - Tua - Z Wilson - Mills
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Pollard - Patterson - D’Ernest - Jermar - Evans - Jones
WR: Hill - JJeff - Higgins - Hollywood - MThom(IR) - Godwin(IR) - E Moore - Marshall Jr - Calloway - Palmer - D Brown
TE: Hock - Moreau

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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:54 pm

I like Thomas more based on his ability to dominate corners and safety's based on size but is there a production decrease after Brees? I would still take Thomas but they are neck and neck. Beckham is appealing for skill set and QB situation.

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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby IR1 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:12 pm

Voted MT, but probably personal preference. OBJ can be a bit of a head case, maybe I’m still upset about his suspension during the FF finals a couple years ago :(
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RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
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DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
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LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:18 pm

Like both, but OBJ is the more talented player, and I think over their prime, has the better situation. OBJ by a hair for me.
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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby mratlanta » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:10 pm

This is close, but I'd go OBJ for dynasty because of the post-Brees question.
12-team Non-PPR QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, TE, K, DEF
QB: Mahomes, Cam, Tannehill
RB: LeVeon, Jordan Howard, Latavius, Bryce Love, Ty Johnson
WR: OBJ, Antonio Brown, Corey Davis, Robby Anderson, Anthony Miller, Arcega-Whiteside,
Diontae Johnson, Hakeem Butler, DJ Chark, Darius Slayton
TE: OJ Howard, Evan Engram, Gerald Everett
K: Zuerlein
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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby Goddard » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:08 pm

OBJ, but obviously very close.

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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:44 am

Close and splitting hairs to me, I'd take MT because of the OBJ injury/antics risk

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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby Blueboy » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:33 am

If I'm rebuilding, give me the security of MT. If I'm going for it this year, give me the ceiling of what OBJ could accomplish with Mayfield.

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QB: Mahomes, Fields, Love
RB: Bijan, ETN, Pollard, Achane, Herbert
WR: Kupp, Hill, Metcalf, Ridley, Jeudy, D.J. M, Burks, Hollywood, Wan'Dale
TE: Kyle Pitts, Goedert

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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby Big Al » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:34 am

Thomas but their close. I also prefer the less drama.

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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby honcho55 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:56 am

Does anyone else change their mind about stuff like this daily?
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT

QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy

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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:50 am

honcho55 wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:56 am Does anyone else change their mind about stuff like this daily?
Yeah depends on the mood I’m in

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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby Jcedwards » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:38 pm

I have both and I really don’t know who’d I’d give the edge too. If I had to pick, I’d probably go with Thomas right now, but could very well change my mind tomorrow. As of right now, we have seen what Thomas can do with Brees, but how much longer does Brees have and how will a new QB be with Thomas? The move to CLE was probably the best thing for OBJ. While early reports are good between Baker and OBJ, we also haven’t seen what they will look like together. I have them both ranked team together.
12 team .5 PPR league. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 13 BN, 1 IR

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QB- Mahomes / Purdy
RB- Barkley / Pollard / Kamara / Brian Robinson / Dillon / Charbonnet / Dowdle
WR- ARSB / Amari Cooper / Ridley / Diontae Johnson / Michael Thomas / Doubs / Wicks
TE- Goedert / Waller
D/ST- Bills / Dolphins / Chiefs
K- Butker

Taxi- Levis / Roschon Johnson / Jameson Williams / Michael Wilson / Okonkwo

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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby Blueboy » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:03 pm

Jcedwards wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:38 pm I have both and I really don’t know who’d I’d give the edge too.
How is that roster possible in a 12 team league

12-team SF, PPR, TE premium, 0.25 PPCarry
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1SF 4Flex
QB: Mahomes, Fields, Love
RB: Bijan, ETN, Pollard, Achane, Herbert
WR: Kupp, Hill, Metcalf, Ridley, Jeudy, D.J. M, Burks, Hollywood, Wan'Dale
TE: Kyle Pitts, Goedert

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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby Jcedwards » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:43 am

Blueboy wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:03 pm
Jcedwards wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:38 pm I have both and I really don’t know who’d I’d give the edge too.
How is that roster possible in a 12 team league
Good drafts, timely trades, and a little bit of luck honestly.
12 team .5 PPR league. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 13 BN, 1 IR

2019 and 2020 Champion

QB- Mahomes / Purdy
RB- Barkley / Pollard / Kamara / Brian Robinson / Dillon / Charbonnet / Dowdle
WR- ARSB / Amari Cooper / Ridley / Diontae Johnson / Michael Thomas / Doubs / Wicks
TE- Goedert / Waller
D/ST- Bills / Dolphins / Chiefs
K- Butker

Taxi- Levis / Roschon Johnson / Jameson Williams / Michael Wilson / Okonkwo

Picks- 2023: 1.02, 1.11, 2.10, 2.11, 3.11, 4.10, 4.11

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Re: MThom vs OBJ

Postby Slackalacker » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:41 pm

It’s funny in the offseason I was trying to maybe add a late 2nd to MThom for OBJ now someone is offering me OBJ and a 2nd & 3rd for MThom and I’m having trouble pulling the trigger.

Looking back in previous years:

2016:
MT: 15 games 92/1137/9 255.7 points 17ppg - WR6
OBJ: 16 games 101/1367/10 296.6 points 18.5ppg - WR3

2017:
MT: 16 games 104/1245/5 258.5 points 16.2 ppg - WR6
OBJ: 4 games 25/302/3 74 points 18.5ppg - WR79

2018:
MT: 16 games 125/1405/9 315.5 points 19.7ppg - WR6
OBJ: 12 games 77/1052/6 230.34 points 19.2ppg - WR15

2019 (week 5):
MT: 5 games 45/543/3 117.3 points 23.5ppg - WR2
OBJ: 5 games 23/335/1 62.8 points 12.6ppg - WR34

Seems to be that Odell has the higher upside yet is more injury prone. In this time span OBJ has missed 16 games while MT has missed 1. So obviously in a full 16 game season OBJ could score more, however MT would be more likely to play a full season over OBJ

As a fantasy owner who prefers consistent players over boom or bust players, I thought that was why I prefer MT over OBJ. Injuries seem to play a part, as well as the whole Cleveland situation that’s going on right now.
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1QB/1SF/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX
QB: Dak - Hurts - DangeRuss - Tua - Z Wilson - Mills
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Pollard - Patterson - D’Ernest - Jermar - Evans - Jones
WR: Hill - JJeff - Higgins - Hollywood - MThom(IR) - Godwin(IR) - E Moore - Marshall Jr - Calloway - Palmer - D Brown
TE: Hock - Moreau


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