Hopkins vs Beckham

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Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby nicktahoes » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:50 pm

Most if not all would agree Hopkins>Beckham. I'm wondering by how much.

Say you want to trade Beckham plus for Hopkins. What is that plus? The 2.12? The 2.02? A mid 2019 first? Penny? Boyd? Etc.
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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:00 pm

I'd add the late 2nd and maybeeee the 2.02. no way I add a 1st

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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:13 pm

A late First is fair
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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby AlPal&Ange » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:01 am

The difference is probably an mid/early 2nd, but I doubt the Nuk owners moves for that. Like lucky said, a late first is probably going to be needed.

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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby bsacks13 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:19 pm

As a nuk owner myself, i'm not making a trade for OBJ and a 2nd. I would need a first. If OBJ didn't come with his bag of drama, it would be a different story.
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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:30 am

I prefer Hopkins but I think a 2nd rounder is a fair difference between the 2 players.

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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby TigerSharkP » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:46 am

Rational minds could value either player over the other. I prefer OBJ in new, better situation.

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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby Bot101 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:34 pm

You can go through my history. I preferred OBJ pre Browns trade. He's the most talented WR in the NFL.

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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby Titans95 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:13 pm

Realistically talking about any high end players like Nuk vs OBJ, Zeke vs CMC ect. you are going to need to add a late 1st most likely. These players are worth so much on their own that a 2nd round pick is practically worthless when in the same conversation as these types of players. No one is going to trade their preferred top 5 startup player for a lesser preferred startup guy for the chance to draft a guy like James Washington or Hines or Ballage in the mid 2nd round of a rookie draft.

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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby Valhalla » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:53 am

Beckham was doing very well in a pretty horrible situation. So has Hopkins.
I think Beckham is the best wr talent in the nfl, and now his situation is better than Hopkins’.

You can’t go wrong, but I’ve personally always gone Beckham.

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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby Vcize » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:37 pm

If you're risk averse take Hopkins. There is almost no scenario outside of injury where he's not a top 5 WR going forward.

If you tend to take risks in fantasy to try and hit it out of the park go OBJ. This could legitimately be a Randy Moss to New England situation. But there is much more downside than for Hopkins.
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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby Balzac » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:21 am

Lots of delusion going on in this thread.

Hopkins>Odell

No debate needed.
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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby Smoking Guns » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:51 am

Before the trade to Cleveland I tried an even swap OBJ for Hopkins and was turned down. Now, I don’t think I would do it .

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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby gameaholica » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:22 am

I have both, and like obj more.
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Re: Hopkins vs Beckham

Postby Duke Nuk’em » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:51 pm

Titans95 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:13 pm Realistically talking about any high end players like Nuk vs OBJ, Zeke vs CMC ect. you are going to need to add a late 1st most likely. These players are worth so much on their own that a 2nd round pick is practically worthless when in the same conversation as these types of players. No one is going to trade their preferred top 5 startup player for a lesser preferred startup guy for the chance to draft a guy like James Washington or Hines or Ballage in the mid 2nd round of a rookie draft.
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