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Lamar Jackson time? (aka Lamar vs. Gerinomo)

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:10 pm
by Ukcody83
Sounds like Flaco’s hip injury might be the excuse the Ravens need to make the switch,I’m pretty excited to see what the rookie can do

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:44 pm
by Elroypedro
I tried to give Geronimo for him in a 1 QB league right now but got denied somehow. Thought that was a big premium but guess not

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:48 pm
by Bot101
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:44 pm
I tried to give Geronimo for him in a 1 QB league right now but got denied somehow. Thought that was a big premium but guess not
Uh thats a terrible offer. I would have rejected it too.

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:57 pm
by Elroypedro
Bot101 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:48 pm
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:44 pm
I tried to give Geronimo for him in a 1 QB league right now but got denied somehow. Thought that was a big premium but guess not
Uh thats a terrible offer. I would have rejected it too.
Not sure if serious?

GMO is a solid flex WR when back from his minor injury with some situation concerns starting next season that take his value down but not too low.

Jackson is a complete lottery flyer taxi squad type guy who hasn’t started a game in the NFL yet.

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:09 pm
by Blueboy
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:57 pm
Bot101 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:48 pm
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:44 pm
I tried to give Geronimo for him in a 1 QB league right now but got denied somehow. Thought that was a big premium but guess not
Uh thats a terrible offer. I would have rejected it too.
Not sure if serious?

GMO is a solid flex WR when back from his minor injury with some situation concerns starting next season that take his value down but not too low.

Jackson is a complete lottery flyer taxi squad type guy who hasn’t started a game in the NFL yet.
Geronimo Allison is on IR and won't return before playoffs at the earliest.

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:10 pm
by grooner
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:57 pm
Bot101 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:48 pm
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:44 pm
I tried to give Geronimo for him in a 1 QB league right now but got denied somehow. Thought that was a big premium but guess not
Uh thats a terrible offer. I would have rejected it too.
Not sure if serious?

GMO is a solid flex WR when back from his minor injury with some situation concerns starting next season that take his value down but not too low.

Jackson is a complete lottery flyer taxi squad type guy who hasn’t started a game in the NFL yet.
I agree, it's a terrible offer. You clearly value Jackson more also or you wouldn't have made the offer.

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:11 pm
by Elroypedro
Blueboy wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:09 pm
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:57 pm
Bot101 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:48 pm


Uh thats a terrible offer. I would have rejected it too.
Not sure if serious?

GMO is a solid flex WR when back from his minor injury with some situation concerns starting next season that take his value down but not too low.

Jackson is a complete lottery flyer taxi squad type guy who hasn’t started a game in the NFL yet.
Geronimo Allison is on IR and won't return before playoffs at the earliest.
This is a dynasty site

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:17 pm
by Elroypedro
grooner wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:10 pm
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:57 pm
Bot101 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:48 pm


Uh thats a terrible offer. I would have rejected it too.
Not sure if serious?

GMO is a solid flex WR when back from his minor injury with some situation concerns starting next season that take his value down but not too low.

Jackson is a complete lottery flyer taxi squad type guy who hasn’t started a game in the NFL yet.
I agree, it's a terrible offer. You clearly value Jackson more also or you wouldn't have made the offer.
I value Jackson as a taxi squad Rookie who has not started a game with a ton of risk who could hopefully develop into a backup to Cousins starting in a year or 2 when Brees retires.

Geronimo is definitely worth more, in a startup he would go higher for sure, though not way higher due to his current IR designation(only a 6 week recovery, available for NFL playoffs), and because of RFA situation in GB next year.

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:19 pm
by Ukcody83
LJ might not have the highest floor but he has one of the highest ceilings I’ve ever seen at the QB position

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:20 pm
by Blueboy
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:11 pm
Blueboy wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:09 pm
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:57 pm


Not sure if serious?

GMO is a solid flex WR when back from his minor injury with some situation concerns starting next season that take his value down but not too low.

Jackson is a complete lottery flyer taxi squad type guy who hasn’t started a game in the NFL yet.
Geronimo Allison is on IR and won't return before playoffs at the earliest.
This is a dynasty site
My mistake. I was under the impression that being on IR hurts a player's flex value. Maybe I'll start Dez this week, I need a win.

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:24 pm
by bjd5211
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:57 pm
Bot101 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:48 pm
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:44 pm
I tried to give Geronimo for him in a 1 QB league right now but got denied somehow. Thought that was a big premium but guess not
Uh thats a terrible offer. I would have rejected it too.
Not sure if serious?

GMO is a solid flex WR when back from his minor injury with some situation concerns starting next season that take his value down but not too low.

Jackson is a complete lottery flyer taxi squad type guy who hasn’t started a game in the NFL yet.
No that is completely serious because no chance I would do that either. Jackson is a massive upside rookie, which we draft every year despite not playing any games yet... Alison is nothing more than an emergency WR3/flex play

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:27 pm
by Elroypedro
Blueboy wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:20 pm
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:11 pm
Blueboy wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:09 pm


Geronimo Allison is on IR and won't return before playoffs at the earliest.
This is a dynasty site
My mistake. I was under the impression that being on IR hurts a player's flex value. Maybe I'll start Dez this week, I need a win.
Again, this is a dynasty site. Geronimo is and has been much more valuable than Dez both this year and moving forward. He will also be back soon career-wise and is 24 and(with some uncertainty as to contract situation and FA) will be coming back as Rodger’s 2/3 WR, while Dez should be completely done now and out of football. What a bizarre set of posts on your part.

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:32 pm
by CK_
Yeah.... Geronimo is not a good offer for Lamar. Terrible is probably too strong of a word but it is definitely not fair. You would need to sprinkle something else on top of that.


Yes, this is a dynasty site so future value matters so therefore that in turn means Lamar > Geronimo for long turn value. MVS has already stepped up and nudged Geronimo to a WR3 at best on his team alone.

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:33 pm
by grooner
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:17 pm
grooner wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:10 pm
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:57 pm


Not sure if serious?

GMO is a solid flex WR when back from his minor injury with some situation concerns starting next season that take his value down but not too low.

Jackson is a complete lottery flyer taxi squad type guy who hasn’t started a game in the NFL yet.
I agree, it's a terrible offer. You clearly value Jackson more also or you wouldn't have made the offer.
I value Jackson as a taxi squad Rookie who has not started a game with a ton of risk who could hopefully develop into a backup to Cousins starting in a year or 2 when Brees retires.

Geronimo is definitely worth more, in a startup he would go higher for sure, though not way higher due to his current IR designation(only a 6 week recovery, available for NFL playoffs), and because of RFA situation in GB next year.
Allison is clearly not worth more, he is worth less to Jackson to both you And the guy you made the offer to.
There is no arguing that, yet somehow I get the feeling you are going to argue.

Nothing irks me more than when someone makes an offer, I decline, then they get angry I didn't accept because their player is "worth" more.

Re: Lamar Jackson time?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:36 pm
by Elroypedro
bjd5211 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:24 pm
Elroypedro wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:57 pm
Bot101 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:48 pm


Uh thats a terrible offer. I would have rejected it too.
Not sure if serious?

GMO is a solid flex WR when back from his minor injury with some situation concerns starting next season that take his value down but not too low.

Jackson is a complete lottery flyer taxi squad type guy who hasn’t started a game in the NFL yet.
No that is completely serious because no chance I would do that either. Jackson is a massive upside rookie, which we draft every year despite not playing any games yet... Alison is nothing more than an emergency WR3/flex play
Still not sure if you are serious or just don’t follow fantasy?

Geronimo, before being hurt this season, was on pace for 201.6 points in .5ppr over 16 games. Last year Tyreek was 8th among all WRs with 201.7 points.

GMO was averaging 12.6 points per game before getting hurt this year, which would have put him 11th last year amongst all WRs, right behind Landry, Fitz, MT, and Julio and right ahead of Thielen, Diggs, and AJG, all of whom averaged between 12-13 points per game last year in .5ppr.