The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

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The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby People Mover » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:57 pm

Let's be real, if you have the 1.01 these are the two players you are deciding between. You want to get it right. This question is two-fold.

A) Who do you prefer and why?
B) What would it take for you to spend the 1.01 on THE OTHER GUY.

Thanks in advance.

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QB: JMatt
RB: JMatt, JMatt, JMatt
WR: JMatt-left side, JMatt-right side, JMatt-slot, JMatt-Vanderbilt, JMatt-sideline, JRice (just in case)
TE: JMatt, JMatt
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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby KCLep20 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:35 pm

I would prefer Fournette given his size, speed, and just raw power. That being said, I certainly love Cook's playmaking ability and obvious advantage in PPR formats.

I currently own the 1.02 and will be interested to see what it would take to move up, my guess is it will cost more than I'm willing to give. Landing either of these RBs should give a boost to anyone's backfield, and I'm not going to pay another 1st given the depth this draft has to offer. I would probably pay a 2nd or a player of equal value to a 2nd, but that's likely it.
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Moving to SF in 2022
12 team PPR with 11 Keepers/year
QB: R. Tannehill, M.Ryan J.Burrow (IR)
RB: N.Chubb, JK Dobbins, J.Conner, L. Bell
WR: DK, AJB, S.Diggs, Julio, L. Shenault
TE: M. Andrews

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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby Sgtpsych » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:41 pm

Fournette for me. I love the Beast Mode style just trucking over defenders. However, I think Cook style lends better to long term and less injuries. Both are fun to watch and can't really go wrong.
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12 team standard dynasty 6 pt - td, .1 per rushing yd, .1 per receiving yd. .04 per passing yd , 24 player roster
1 qb, 2 RB, 2 wr, 1 TE, 2 flex
QB-Russell Wilson, Tom Brady
RB-Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Kareem Hunt,Thomas Rawls,Jerick McKinnon, Chris Carson, TJ Yeldon, Aaron Jones
WR-OBJ, AJG, NUK, ARob, Mike Williams, Josh Gordon, Marqise Lee, Willie Snead
TE- Jimmy Graham, Coby Fleener, George Kittle, Tyler Kroft
K- Harrison Butker
D-Carolina Panthers, Jags
2018 1st and 4th

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QB- Winston, Prescott, Flacco
RB- Freeman, Fournette, Montgomery, Murray, Yeldon, Hightower, Washington, Procise, Lacy, Starks, Conner
WR- NUK, Doctson, Ross, Aghlor, Treadwell
TE - Engram, Davis
D- Giants,Chiefs
K- Gostkowski

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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby KingsKing » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:54 pm

dc1986 wrote:I have the 1.01.. and I'm leaning Fournette.

It's mostly because I became a fan after seeing him play live last year. It was during that stretch when he was dominating everyone. He went for 233 yds and 3 TDs (against Eastern Michigan, but still). It was like watching a man amongst boys.

Anyway- I'm rooting for him to end up in a good situation so that I won't have any hesitations about grabbing him because I've wanted him on my team ever since that day.

However- it all depends where these guys get drafted. If the situation is that much better for Cooks, I'll go Cooks.
It's always been Fournette in my eyes, I love Cook as a prospect and i think in the right system he could be a monster cause of his ppr value. For now i've got Fournette pretty firmly as the 1.1 but i could see me changing my mind before the draft.

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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:09 pm

I feel that Cook is safer, in a PPR at least. I think he will be a high end RB2 right off the bat in PPR leagues, whereas I could see Fournette struggle in a terrible offense such as Cleveland or Jacksonville. But Fournette has the higher ceiling as maybe the next 1500 yard rusher
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Tua, Wentz
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. Joey Bosa, Buckner, Sweat, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Cousins, Rivers, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/CARSON, Dobbins, Lindsay, Mattison, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/K ALLEN/JULIO/AROB, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Boyd, Coutee, Alshon
KITTLE/L Thomas, Ertz, Reed
Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad.

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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby Phaded » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:11 pm

I've only done very minor watching of both - since I don't really have the opportunity to get either so I don't really care.

With that said; I would go Cook personally. I prefer the agile guy with vision over the powerful athletic guy in most cases.

Both are intriguing prospects, obviously.

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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:11 pm

Take my Colts for instance. If we get Cook, I love it (both in fantasy and in real life). I think he will be able to make things happen even without a great line, and also get 7-8 targets per game. But Fournette would struggle in Indy, IMO. He would certainly be a solid bet for weekly TDs, but I could see him getting swallowed up behind the line. Just my thoughts.
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Tua, Wentz
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. Joey Bosa, Buckner, Sweat, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Cousins, Rivers, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/CARSON, Dobbins, Lindsay, Mattison, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/K ALLEN/JULIO/AROB, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Boyd, Coutee, Alshon
KITTLE/L Thomas, Ertz, Reed
Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad.

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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby KingsKing » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:18 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:Take my Colts for instance. If we get Cook, I love it (both in fantasy and in real life). I think he will be able to make things happen even without a great line, and also get 7-8 targets per game. But Fournette would struggle in Indy, IMO. He would certainly be a solid bet for weekly TDs, but I could see him getting swallowed up behind the line. Just my thoughts.
Gore is having a great season at 50 , what makes you think Fournette would struggle? i dont have any stats to back this up but i think the Colts are a decent run blocking line but give up alot of sacks it seems.

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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby TomBobAnderson » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:19 pm

Cook for me. His vision is crazy. He fumbles though. But I think he's the better player overall

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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby moishetreats » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:56 pm

Any NFL player comps? I tend not to follow devy prospects, elite as they are.

Or a range of NFL player comps? E.g., could be as good as ___ or as bad as ___.
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10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex

QB: Wilson, Wentz, Rodgers, Love
RB: Mixon, Gurley, Montgomery, Dillon, Moss, Armstead
WR: Hill, Cooper, Lockett, Hilton, Anderson, Lazard, Arcega-Whiteside, Sims, Ward, Renfrow
TE: Kelce, Goedert, Jarwin, Sternberger, K Smith, Arnold, L Thomas

2021: 2ndx3, 3rdx2, 4thx2, 5th
2022: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 plyrs {IR} [Taxi]. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex/ best ball

QB: Stafford ($36 through 2022), Brady (43), Rodgers (28/21), Garappolo (5/20), Winston (3/24), K Allen (1/20) [Morgan (1/24), Luton (1/24), Gordon (1/24)]
RB: Mixon (29/23), Gurley (5/20), Dillon (12/24), Z Moss (10/24), Hines (1/20), Snell (1/20) [Perine (2/22)]
WR: Adams (31/22), Cooper (28/20), Kupp (3/21), AJ Brown (7/23), R Anderson (3/21), Ward (1/20)
TE: Kelce (28/21), Ertz (22/21), Goedert (8/22)
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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:00 pm

moishetreats wrote:Any NFL player comps? I tend not to follow devy prospects, elite as they are.

Or a range of NFL player comps? E.g., could be as good as ___ or as bad as ___.
Cook has been comp'd to Jamal Charles as a ceiling and that's not a bad one. I see a less ferocious Marshawn Lynch in Cook's game as well. Yards after contact, spinning away from tacklers, that sort of thing. For Cook's floor, I would say maybe Lamar Miller? Really solid at everything you want in a RB, but not GREAT at any one thing.
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Tua, Wentz
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. Joey Bosa, Buckner, Sweat, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Cousins, Rivers, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/CARSON, Dobbins, Lindsay, Mattison, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/K ALLEN/JULIO/AROB, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Boyd, Coutee, Alshon
KITTLE/L Thomas, Ertz, Reed
Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad.

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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby amazehayes » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:58 pm

Landing spot is key here. If Cook lands in Indy or Green Bay watch out he's 1.01. I'm not a Fournette fan actually if he fell to me at 1.03 or 1.04 I probably wouldn't take him. I believe his season will be injury riddled. I can see him being a Gronkowski or Arian Foster type of player: stud when he's on the field but he's never on the field.
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QB: Philip Rivers and Blake Bortles
RB: Devonta Freeman, Spencer Ware, Jerick McKinnon, Charles Sims, Shane Vereen, Danny Woodhead, Tim Hightower
WR: Allen Robinson, Emmanuel Sanders, Michael Crabtree, Doug Baldwin
TE: Hunter Henry, CJ Fiedorowicz
K: Dan Bailey
DL: Fletcher Cox, Mohammed Wilkerson, Danielle Hunter, Kyle Williams
LB: Von Miller, Lawrence Timmons, Shaq Thompson, Zachary Orr, Will Compton
DB: Trumaine Johnson, Casey Hayward, Jason McCourty

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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby koalabear » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:57 am

Is it more nuanced, say Cook in a PPR and Fournette in standard? I have the 1.01 in a 0.5 PPR league so interested in views!
1. 12 team 1pt PPR. Start 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE. Yr 6.
QB: Murray, Stafford
RB: Dobbins, Sanders
WR: Jefferson, Allen, JuJu, Woods, Fuller
TE: Goedert, Irv Smith
2021: 4.09

2. 12 team 1pt PPR. Start 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE. Yr 5.
QB: Jackson, Allen
RB: Akers, CEH
WR: Beckham, M Brown, Pittman, Anderson, M Williams, Edwards
TE: Tonyan, Hooper
2021: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02

3. 12 team superflex, PPR (WR/RB/TE 1/1.25/1.5). Start 1-2 QB, 1-7 RB, WR, TE. Yr 4.
QB: Jackson, Prescott, Brady
RB: Singletary, Lindsay
WR: Adams, Diggs, Evans, Lockett
TE: Waller, Fant, Tonyan
2021: 3.07, 3.12, 4.10, 5.10

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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby cp3 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:20 am

Fournette for me. Guy is rumored to run a 4.3 40 which at his size is unfathomable. We'll see how it goes at the combine, and then landing spot (for both) but It would take something crazy for cook to jump ahead of him in my ranks.

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Re: The 1.01: Fournette or Cook

Postby People Mover » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:59 am

So, in summary, there is no consensus 1.01. There are just as many Cook supporters as there are Fournette supporters. Hopefully, the combine and draft will create a little distance betweem the two.
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I own 1.01, 2.01, 3.01, 4.01, 5.01 (plan to trade those picks for JMatt)

QB: JMatt
RB: JMatt, JMatt, JMatt
WR: JMatt-left side, JMatt-right side, JMatt-slot, JMatt-Vanderbilt, JMatt-sideline, JRice (just in case)
TE: JMatt, JMatt
K: JMatt


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