Rookie Auction draft?

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Rookie Auction draft?

Postby freddog97 » Tue May 28, 2019 6:36 pm

A Buddy and I were thinking about a league where the rookie draft would be an auction style. How much money would you give the teams based on $1,000? It has to scale for the bad teams to have more money but how much? Any thoughts are appreciated!

#1 being worst team and #12 being league champion:
1: $1000
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5:
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20 team(2 copy) superflex Devy PPR(.5 RB, 1WR, 1.5TE) .25PPC
QBs: Wentz Bortles
RBs Fournette, McCaffery, Mixon, Kamara, Doug Martin, Jeremy Hill
WRs Mike Williams, Doctson, White, KBenjamin, Fuller, Parker, Tajae Sharp, Martavis Bryant, DGB, Dorsett, Sanu,
TE OJ Howard, Austin Hooper
Devy: Nick Chubb, Royce Freeman, Bo Scarbrough, James Washington
2018: 1st, 1st, 1st, 4th, 5th

12 team PPR start QB 2RB 3WR TE Flex
Qb: Drew Brees, Jamis Winston, Trevor Siemian, Paxton Lynch, Chad Kelly
Rb: Ezekiel Elliott, Kareem Hunt, Isaiah Crowell, Donta Foreman,
WR: Brandin Cooks, Keenan Allen, Michael Thomas, Allen Robinson, Stefon Diggs, Donte Moncrief, Breshad Perriman, Chris Conley
TE: Rob Gronkoski, Hunter Henry, OJ Howard, Antonio Gates, Austin Saferian-Jenkins,

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Re: Rookie Auction draft?

Postby freddog97 » Wed May 29, 2019 7:33 am

Anyone run a league like this ?
20 team(2 copy) superflex Devy PPR(.5 RB, 1WR, 1.5TE) .25PPC
QBs: Wentz Bortles
RBs Fournette, McCaffery, Mixon, Kamara, Doug Martin, Jeremy Hill
WRs Mike Williams, Doctson, White, KBenjamin, Fuller, Parker, Tajae Sharp, Martavis Bryant, DGB, Dorsett, Sanu,
TE OJ Howard, Austin Hooper
Devy: Nick Chubb, Royce Freeman, Bo Scarbrough, James Washington
2018: 1st, 1st, 1st, 4th, 5th

12 team PPR start QB 2RB 3WR TE Flex
Qb: Drew Brees, Jamis Winston, Trevor Siemian, Paxton Lynch, Chad Kelly
Rb: Ezekiel Elliott, Kareem Hunt, Isaiah Crowell, Donta Foreman,
WR: Brandin Cooks, Keenan Allen, Michael Thomas, Allen Robinson, Stefon Diggs, Donte Moncrief, Breshad Perriman, Chris Conley
TE: Rob Gronkoski, Hunter Henry, OJ Howard, Antonio Gates, Austin Saferian-Jenkins,

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Re: Rookie Auction draft?

Postby rubber_duck » Wed May 29, 2019 7:52 am

So I've been part of a long running auction league. The league is NOT salary cap. Winning a player at auction means the same as selecting him in a draft, he is yours until you trade or drop him.

This league has been around for 15 years. It has had its share of good and bad teams rising and declining.

We give the league champion 50% of the money that the last place team gets.

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Re: Rookie Auction draft?

Postby honcho55 » Wed May 29, 2019 8:44 am

Cool idea.

One thought I had is look at various trade calculators, input 1.01, 2.01, 3.01, tally up the points. Give the last place team that many dollars. 1.12, 2.12, 3.12 total to champ

Edit: by dlfs tool, giving last place 1k, champ gets 414. I think that could work, and we have a poster with something real close too.

I think you’d have to make rookie auction dollars tradable in this format?
my main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -4 for INT
14 team
start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT. Roster 15, 2 IR. keep 10 every year (must keep one each pos) *transitioning to more keepers/full dyno over a couple years

QB: Wilson, Carr, Flacco
RB: E Elliot, D Henry, M Ingram, R Armstead, J Williams, D Ozigbo, M Brown
WR. O. Beckham, J Smith-Schuster, A Cooper, R Woods, P Dorsett, P Williams, J Kumerow, D Thomas
TE. H. Henry, V McDonald

2020 picks: four 1sts, two 3rds
(Project 2 top 3, one mid-late, one late 1st)
2021: two 1sts, three 2s, two each 3,4
2022: three 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 5th

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Re: Rookie Auction draft?

Postby neil5young » Wed May 29, 2019 10:29 am

Joined new 14-team league last season that's all auction and just wrapped our 1st rookie draft a couple weeks back. Our works like this:
  • Auction dollars are tied to picks
  • Lottery element for top picks
  • Bonus 1.15 for Toilet Bowl winner (~ mid 2nd)
  • Trade picks throughout season
  • Once draft order locks, move to trading dollars
Money breakdown looks like the below:
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Re: Rookie Auction draft?

Postby rubber_duck » Wed May 29, 2019 11:00 am

^^ It looks like your league's dollar values are coming down fast after the 2nd or 3rd pick. Based on the last 10 years of our rookie auction, that may imply you can get a lot of value by trading back! Below is the average money spent for the top 20 rookies each year in the league I've been referencing:

(Cost of the 1.01 has been normalized to $100)
Pick Cost
1____$100
2____$76.6
3____$68.2
4____$64.9
5____$61.1
6____$54.1
7____$47.0
8____$43.5
9____$41.3
10___$37.6
11___$35.0
12___$33.9
13___$31.7
14___$30.2
15___$28.3
16___$27.6
17___$25.6
18___$23.7
19___$22.0
20___$20.8

So the #20 rookie sells for (on average) 1/5th of the top overall player.

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Re: Rookie Auction draft?

Postby Krypto_King » Wed May 29, 2019 4:09 pm

make sure you do 3-4 rounds of picks, all with different values. If you only do 12 lump dollar amounts you can't really trade picks in season


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