Future Rookie Salaries

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Future Rookie Salaries

Postby BrentMayFF » Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:20 pm

Setting up a new startup, and we've been having some conversations around how to set the salaries of future rookie picks. (We want a draft, so please don't recommend doing a rookie auction ;-) )

We agreed to have a set scale, but we can't agree whether to make them based on position. It's a SuperFlex league, so the thought is that if you hit on a stud QB or RB early it would give that team a huge advantage.

So, should we set the scale based on position? Or have the pick the same salary regardless of the position drafted?

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Re: Future Rookie Salaries

Postby bdynomite » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:11 pm

No, you should have your rookie pick salaries correspond to where a player is drafted. In my league ($1000 budget) we have our 1.01 go for $60, 1.02 $55, continuing in descending order. Position shouldn't matter in this case, I would only consider that if you use franchise tags or something to gauge the average of a position. Otherwise, have owners draft the guys they want, if they don't want to pay that price for a WR, pay someone else. Hope this helps!

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Re: Future Rookie Salaries

Postby millworkguy » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:25 am

bdynomite wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:11 pm
No, you should have your rookie pick salaries correspond to where a player is drafted. In my league ($1000 budget) we have our 1.01 go for $60, 1.02 $55, continuing in descending order. Position shouldn't matter in this case, I would only consider that if you use franchise tags or something to gauge the average of a position. Otherwise, have owners draft the guys they want, if they don't want to pay that price for a WR, pay someone else. Hope this helps!
^^ this , and if you escalate salaries each year, keep the cap fixed and only increase player salaries. This keeps the relationship between rookie wages and the cap static. Leagues that have a 4% salary increase and a 5% cap increase eventually end up with rookie wages being crazy low
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Re: Future Rookie Salaries

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:19 am

Another option, our league does it based on where the player went in the draft. So if a player goes top ten, he's $7, if he goes in the rest of the first, he's $5, if he goes in round 2-3, he's $3, and everyone else is $1. We have a $200 salary. All rookies start with three year rookie contracts.
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Re: Future Rookie Salaries

Postby BrentMayFF » Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:13 am

Thanks for the feedback, we are going to start with fixed salaries based on draft position, and it's something we can revisit and tweak if need be.

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Re: Future Rookie Salaries

Postby M-Dub » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:42 pm

Also setting up a new salary cap/contract league and was also wondering about salaries for future rookies. Right now, we’re planning on waiting until after the startup auction so we at least have the 2019 rookie salaries in place to use as a starting point.
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Re: Future Rookie Salaries

Postby StormSurge » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:59 am

12 team superflex. Our cap goes up 5% each year & salaries go up 20%. Our rookie salaries go up 20% every 5 years.

We have a 5 round rookie draft.

Here's the rookie draft salaries:

The first draft selection (1.01) will have a salary of $30.
The next two selections (1.02, 1.03) in the draft will have rookie salaries of $25.
The next three draft selections (1.04, 1.05, 1.06) will have a rookie salary of $20.
The next three draft selections (1.07, 1.08, 1.09) will have a rookie salary of $17.
The remaining first round selections (1.10, 1.11 and 1.12) will have salaries of $15.
All second round selections will have salaries of $10.
All third round selections will have salaries of $5.
All fourth round selections will have salaries of $3.
All fifth round selections will have salaries of $1.

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Re: Future Rookie Salaries

Postby millworkguy » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:20 pm

StormSurge wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:59 am
12 team superflex. Our cap goes up 5% each year & salaries go up 20%. Our rookie salaries go up 20% every 5 years.
So, for 4 years your rookies keep becoming better value, then you try to correct future rookie picks value. You have drastically increased the worth of rookie picks (imo) esp every 4th year. This is why I dont adjust the salary cap, i only increase player salaries:
As an example:

Year 1 , cap 100 1.01 $30 1.01 % of cap 30
Year 4 cap 121.5 1.01 30 1.01 % of cap 24
Year 5 cap 127.6 1.01 36 1.01 % of cap 28
Year 9 cap 155.1 1.01 36 1.01 % of cap 23
Year 10 cap 162.9 1.01 43 1.01 % of cap 26

Your rookie picks are getting cheaper to own
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Re: Future Rookie Salaries

Postby sportstalkryan » Thu May 16, 2019 7:22 am

How you set your rookie prices will dramatically affect how valuable those rookie picks are. The lower the salary, the more valuable. I run a couple leagues that try to replicate the NFL experience, by matching the NFL salary cap amount and rookie wage scale, and those rookie picks are crazy valuable. I'm in another league with higher (relative) rookie salaries with increasing annual raises, and the top 3 rookie picks often are dropped before their rookie contract is up because their salary becomes untenable. At some level is a balance that's right for your league.
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