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Re: Week 13

Postby Ruggenater » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:11 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:19 am
jcc6fd wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:48 am
Pullo Vision wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:31 pm
Oh, come on now. Yeah, you can dismiss Dez, but Rodgers has at least 5 targets in 3 of the last 4 games, and his lowest catch total was 2 in those 4 games. The two combined will easily beat more than 2 catches.
I thought the same thing, but Ertz is back meaning Rodgers is going back to the bench. He could realistically not have a single target.
Possible, but-
1) Coach said they need to be careful with Ertz and that could mean a snap count
2) Saw/read the thought somewhere that Philly could play more 3 TE sets when that TE trio is healthy. Given the injury/performance issues at WR, makes a ton of sense to get Scott and Rodgers on the field consistently.
Made it to 3 snaps and 0 targets for Rodgers with Ertz back in this week (even though he was on a limited snap count).
12 Team Superflex - PPR, 0.25 PPC - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/Superflex
QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers, Pickett, Tannehill
RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo, Schoonmaker

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Re: Week 13

Postby remedy29 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:36 am

mild wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:14 pm
Pac_Eddy wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:22 pm
mild wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:10 pm

It's going to be -by far- the dumbest and most annoying QB controversy / competition of Training Camp 2021.
Why do you say that? It's certainly a legitimate competition. Or should be, anyway.
Because it's not a fair competition. The Eagles have clearly shown they are loathe to bench Wentz - because of the albatross contract he holds over the team. If this team were being managed with a "put the best players out there to win" mind-set with no contract considerations, then he'd have been benched long before *checks notes* "Week Thirteen, lol".

This is a three win team that still had a chance to go to the playoffs as little as two weeks ago. There was no reason to not try and "engineer a spark" earlier than the double-digit weeks of the season... they've been needing a spark since Week 1.

I feel like no matter how well Hurts does - if he is indeed the starter these last 3 games - we'll still end up in a "QB competition" in 2021 Training Camp that ends with Wentz being named the starter. They're married to him and that contract. There's no upside to benching him right off the bat - similar to the Trubiskey situation this year - they're stuck with him, and lame-ducking him in Week 1 of 2021 means you've sunk the cost.

That's why it's going to be dumb, annoying, and frustrating beyond belief for fantasy owners and Eagles fans. Everyone else gets to have popcorn and free batteries, though... so at least there's that.
I do not think it will work like this at all. There are 53 men on the Eagles, the coach will owe it to them to play the best QB. If Hurts shows he is worthy of starting, they will have to play him. I have no idea how Hurts looks in practice and he will have to prove he can play in games. I am just saying it is not a forgone conclusion Wentz is the starter next year.
Wentz's contract only gave him a long leash, that doesn't last forever though.

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Re: Week 13

Postby mild » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:44 pm

remedy29 wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:36 am I do not think it will work like this at all. There are 53 men on the Eagles, the coach will owe it to them to play the best QB. If Hurts shows he is worthy of starting, they will have to play him. I have no idea how Hurts looks in practice and he will have to prove he can play in games. I am just saying it is not a forgone conclusion Wentz is the starter next year.
Wentz's contract only gave him a long leash, that doesn't last forever though.
Are you aware that the historic 4 year, 128 million dollar contract extension that Carson Wentz signed in June 2019 with the Philadelphia Eagles...

... hasn't even kicked in yet?

They.
Have.
No.
Outs.

This team has its hands tied. This is not a Matt Flynn / Russell Wilson situation. It's far -far- worse. I can't paint it for you guys any clearer than that.

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Re: Week 13

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:49 pm

mild wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:44 pm
remedy29 wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:36 am I do not think it will work like this at all. There are 53 men on the Eagles, the coach will owe it to them to play the best QB. If Hurts shows he is worthy of starting, they will have to play him. I have no idea how Hurts looks in practice and he will have to prove he can play in games. I am just saying it is not a forgone conclusion Wentz is the starter next year.
Wentz's contract only gave him a long leash, that doesn't last forever though.
Are you aware that the historic 4 year, 128 million dollar contract extension that Carson Wentz signed in June 2019 with the Philadelphia Eagles...

... hasn't even kicked in yet?

They.
Have.
No.
Outs.

This team has its hands tied. This is not a Matt Flynn / Russell Wilson situation. It's far -far- worse. I can't paint it for you guys any clearer than that.
They
Have
An
Out after 2021. 24M in dead cap, so it's not ideal.

I agree with you that it's likely a "QB competition" guaranteed to be won by Wentz in 2021. How long he stays the starter, is a mystery.

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Re: Week 13

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:49 pm

mild wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:44 pm
remedy29 wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:36 am I do not think it will work like this at all. There are 53 men on the Eagles, the coach will owe it to them to play the best QB. If Hurts shows he is worthy of starting, they will have to play him. I have no idea how Hurts looks in practice and he will have to prove he can play in games. I am just saying it is not a forgone conclusion Wentz is the starter next year.
Wentz's contract only gave him a long leash, that doesn't last forever though.
Are you aware that the historic 4 year, 128 million dollar contract extension that Carson Wentz signed in June 2019 with the Philadelphia Eagles...

... hasn't even kicked in yet?

They.
Have.
No.
Outs.

This team has its hands tied. This is not a Matt Flynn / Russell Wilson situation. It's far -far- worse. I can't paint it for you guys any clearer than that.
They are stuck with Wentz for 2021 (59 million dollar dead cap hit otherwise) , but they could cut him after next season and it is only a 24 million dollar dead cap hit. Which would actually save the Eagles 7 million against the cap.

So it could be a messy situation for 2021, but it isn't this nuclear, scorch the earth for the forseeable future contract that you continue to suggest.

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Re: Week 13

Postby StripesOfKC » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:56 pm

CEH nuked me

0.5 PPR/4 point pass TD--on the fringe of a playoff spot

Down 64 with Ben, McLaurin, Diontae, Dobbins and the Steelers D vs his Ravens D

Projected to lose by 5.5

Also need Team A to beat Team B

Team A is down 18.5 with Josh Allen, Snell and Claypool vs Team B having Justin Tucker, Mostert and Logan Thomas

Projected to lose by 2

For a brief moment it looked like everything was aligning :(

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Re: Week 13

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:04 pm

NYJ DC Gregg Williams fired. Start of them cleaning house. Still assume Gase just takes all 16 losses before they give him the boot lol

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Re: Week 13

Postby StripesOfKC » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:05 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:04 pm NYJ DC Gregg Williams fired. Start of them cleaning house. Still assume Gase just takes all 16 losses before they give him the boot lol
Yes--no point now in firing him before the end of the season

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Re: Week 13

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:22 pm

DJM and Curtis Samuel on COVID list. Will limit the practices this week (DJM may not play regardless) but both could play assuming no positives

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Re: Week 13

Postby abloom » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:14 pm

So far two errors in the Steelers - Football team game by the announcers and I have no where else to vent.

1) it's Ray Ray McCloud not McDonald
2) football team definitely did not have a 3 and out.

Who are these scrub announcers?
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2023/ ... =0009&O=01

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Re: Week 13

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:40 pm

Sounds like turf toe for Gibson. Doubtful to come back

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Re: Week 13

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:40 pm

Sims dropping everything

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Re: Week 13

Postby Meretc01 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:43 pm

Trap game for Pittsburg?
12Team 1QB 3 WR 2 RB 1 TE 2 Flex
QB: Tannehill, Wilson
RB: Swift, M. Carter, Etienne, Cohen, Mckissic, Dallas
WR: Jefferson, Pittman Jr.,T. Higgins, Reagor, Parker, Slayton, G.Davis, Cephus, A St.Brown, T. Marshall,
T. Johnson
TE: Schultz, Jonnu, Dissly, Sample
2022 Picks: 1st-2 3rd-1

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Re: Week 13

Postby CGW » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:37 pm

Hoping Washington can make this reasonably competitive. I could use 30 points from Diontae.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Prescott
RB | Jeff Wilson, Pierre-Strong
WR | Adams, Olave, ARSB, Dotson, Addison
TE | Andrews, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1st 2025 | 1stx3, 2nd, 3rdx2

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Stroud
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, Singletary, Jamaal Williams, R. White, Davis-Price, Herbert, Miller
WR | Godwin, AJB, Lamb, D. Johnson, M. Brown, Mooney, Kirk, J. Williams, Skyy Moore, Watson
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1st, 2nd, 3rd

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert, Love, Young, Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, Ford, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Flowers, Collins, Downs
TE | Hockenson, Dulcich, Likely, Otton
2024 | 2nd, 3rdx3, 4th

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Re: Week 13

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:38 pm

You ever wonder what would have happened if James Washington hadn't gone to one of the most loaded WR rooms in the league? I loved him coming out, he has all of the metrics and draft capital, but he hasn't amounted to much. Maybe his second contact with likely a new team will yield better results
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12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06


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