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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby MFundercover » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:29 am

Didn't see much of the Cards game this week after watching the first 3. Just saw Drakes carries and the blocking was non existent. Maybe I'm in denial, but I'm convinced the problem is with the blocking and coaching, and that saying Edmonds would do any better is short sighted.

Here's the only clips I can find of week 4 Drake. Skip to 1:45.
https://youtu.be/WDcd3HyTTa0

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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:05 am

Kittle is #2 in the league in contested catches. He's only played a game and a half.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby Bot101 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:36 am

Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:05 am Kittle is #2 in the league in contested catches. He's only played a game and a half.
Hes also the reason the hail mary failed at the end of the game last night. He knocked it out of Deebo's hands. Instant reduction in fantasy value IMHO.

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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am

Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:

TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.

I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2

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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby Pac_Eddy » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am

Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:05 am Kittle is #2 in the league in contested catches. He's only played a game and a half.
So he's being force fed, even in tight coverage, but still makes the play. The dude is a star.

Says a lot about SF's QBs & WRs too.
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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby ThunderTung » Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:26 am

Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:

TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.

I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
traded him and Jordan Howard back in 2019 for a pick that yielded sanders. Better a year too early than too late right?
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr

QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
Bench:
QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens

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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby Pullo Vision » Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:54 am

Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:

TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.

I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
How much of this is driven by a Hilton decline and how much by who they've had at QB? Brissett and Rivers, anyone?
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def

League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def

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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby murphysxm » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:02 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:54 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:

TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.

I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
How much of this is driven by a Hilton decline and how much by who they've had at QB? Brissett and Rivers, anyone?
The QB play is part of it, but he's not the same guy. He looked slow this week and has a bad drop every game it feels like. It is painful to watch as a Colts fan
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:29 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:54 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:

TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.

I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
How much of this is driven by a Hilton decline and how much by who they've had at QB? Brissett and Rivers, anyone?
Some unfortunate combination of both.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2

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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby CGW » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:47 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:54 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:

TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.

I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
How much of this is driven by a Hilton decline and how much by who they've had at QB? Brissett and Rivers, anyone?
It's definitely both. He's lost his speed edge that he's had for his whole career and has had several concentration drops. On top of that, Rivers can't throw accurately down field more than 5 yards and Brissett was too conservative to throw downfield.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Prescott
RB | Jeff Wilson, Pierre-Strong
WR | Adams, Olave, ARSB, Dotson, Addison
TE | Andrews, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1st 2025 | 1stx3, 2nd, 3rdx2

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Stroud
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, Singletary, Jamaal Williams, R. White, Davis-Price, Herbert, Miller
WR | Godwin, AJB, Lamb, D. Johnson, M. Brown, Mooney, Kirk, J. Williams, Skyy Moore, Watson
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1st, 2nd, 3rd

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert, Love, Young, Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, Ford, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Flowers, Collins, Downs
TE | Hockenson, Dulcich, Likely, Otton
2024 | 2nd, 3rdx3, 4th

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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby vflgladiators » Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:49 pm

I moved Drake in the offseason for the 1.08 and everyone in my league told me I got robbed. I know it's only been four weeks but I'm feeling pretty good about that one.
Team 1
12 team. PPR. 6pts all TDs. Long TD bonus. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, 1K, 1DEF
QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Sam Howell, Kyle Trask
RBs: Rhamondre Stevenson, Keaontay Ingram, Kyren Williams, Isaiah Spiller
WR/TEs: Jahan Dotson, Kyle Pitts, Diontae Johnson, Elijah Moore, Rashod Bateman, John Metchie
K: Carlson, Boswell
DST: Patriots, Steelers
Picks: 1.3, 1.5, 1.8, 1.9, 1.11, 2.4, 3.1
2019 Champ

Team 2
12 Team Superflex. PPR. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1SFlex, 1K, 1Def
QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Howell, Brissett, Darnold
RBs: Kamara, Mattison, L. Murray, Fournette
WRs: Chase, Diontae Johnson, Toney, Dortch
TEs: Kelce, Dulcich, Juwan Johnson, Ertz
Ks: Tucker
DST: Colts, Jaguars
Picks: 1.8, 3.9
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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby Orenthal Shames » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:19 am

Per Ryan McDowell:

Players to finish as top-12 scorers every week this season:

Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Alvin Kamara
Travis Kelce
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2

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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby vflgladiators » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:21 am

Orenthal Shames wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:19 am Per Ryan McDowell:

Players to finish as top-12 scorers every week this season:

Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Alvin Kamara
Travis Kelce
Which shows just how bad the TE position is. 3 receptions for 70 yards shouldn't be top 12 but here we are.
Team 1
12 team. PPR. 6pts all TDs. Long TD bonus. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, 1K, 1DEF
QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Sam Howell, Kyle Trask
RBs: Rhamondre Stevenson, Keaontay Ingram, Kyren Williams, Isaiah Spiller
WR/TEs: Jahan Dotson, Kyle Pitts, Diontae Johnson, Elijah Moore, Rashod Bateman, John Metchie
K: Carlson, Boswell
DST: Patriots, Steelers
Picks: 1.3, 1.5, 1.8, 1.9, 1.11, 2.4, 3.1
2019 Champ

Team 2
12 Team Superflex. PPR. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1SFlex, 1K, 1Def
QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Howell, Brissett, Darnold
RBs: Kamara, Mattison, L. Murray, Fournette
WRs: Chase, Diontae Johnson, Toney, Dortch
TEs: Kelce, Dulcich, Juwan Johnson, Ertz
Ks: Tucker
DST: Colts, Jaguars
Picks: 1.8, 3.9
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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby MFundercover » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:28 pm

Have to feel pretty good about Damien Harris. That was basically his debut nfl appearance last night.

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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Postby Pac_Eddy » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:30 pm

MFundercover wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:28 pm Have to feel pretty good about Damien Harris. That was basically his debut nfl appearance last night.
He ran pretty tough. Liked what I saw.
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