Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby Walter W. » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:14 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:05 pm
Walter W. wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:42 pm
perkinsrooster wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:18 pm Everyone who (rightly at the time) picked him at 1.01 will be happy to close this book.
I drafted him at 1.01 way back when, but traded him a few years ago. Thought the guy was going to be a stud, guess not.

Look at the rest of the first round that year:

1.01 Watkins
1.02 Johnny Manziel
1.03 Bishop Sankey
1.04 Terrence West
1.05 Mike Evans
1.06 Carlos Hyde
1.07 Eric Ebron
1.08 Brandin Cooks
1.09 Blake Bortles
1.10 Odell Beckham
1.11 Jordan Matthews
1.12 Kelvin Benjamin

Didn't really go well for most owners. :lol:
I wasn't playing Dynasty back then, but how the hell do Sankey and West go over Evans? Evans was what 6th overall in the draft? I'm assuming it was a SF draft because of the QBs going so high, but Bortles and especially Manziel were blatantly obvious future busts to me from the very beginning, no chance I would have taken either. I know it's easy to say now, but I absolutely would have drafted

1 Watson
2 Evans
3 OBJ

That year and in that order.
Non-PPR, so RBs usually go pretty high. Not SF, but owners tend to hoard the QBs, there is rarely a decent one floating around to pick up. Manziel was a head scratcher even back then. My 1-2 was Watkins and Evans depending on where they landed, and they both landed in shitty situations. That 1.11 was mine too, I thought Jordan Matthews was going to be a genius pick. :lol:
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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:20 pm

Matthews was a solid pick at the time, and was looking like he would easily justify that pick if not make it look like a steal early on, then injuries took their toll, it happens.

Even non-PPR thise WRs were clearly better than any RB that year, and hoarding or over drafting QBs in 1QB leagues is still a losing strategy.

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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby Pullo Vision » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:26 pm

My first orphan rebuild turned around with that draft.

1.2- Evans (Watkins went 1.1, guy paid a fortune to jump ahead of me)
1.3- B Cooks
2.7- Terrance West
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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby remedy29 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:29 pm

This sure seems like Watkins knows he is getting cut this year, heck he is a overrated WR but he ain't stupid! So instead of the disgrace of getting cut, he wants it to be perceived that he is walking away on his terms.

How much do you think he'd command on the open market? 8 million? That's good money, but an insult to these rich athletes that think they are worth top dollar.

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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby Pac_Eddy » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:57 pm

In my leagues it went 1) Watson, 2) Evans. Sankey was like 6-10.
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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby Mike from Canada » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:29 pm

Walter W. wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:42 pm
perkinsrooster wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:18 pm Everyone who (rightly at the time) picked him at 1.01 will be happy to close this book.
I drafted him at 1.01 way back when, but traded him a few years ago. Thought the guy was going to be a stud, guess not.

Look at the rest of the first round that year:

1.01 Watkins
1.02 Johnny Manziel
1.03 Bishop Sankey
1.04 Terrence West
1.05 Mike Evans
1.06 Carlos Hyde
1.07 Eric Ebron
1.08 Brandin Cooks
1.09 Blake Bortles
1.10 Odell Beckham
1.11 Jordan Matthews
1.12 Kelvin Benjamin

Didn't really go well for most owners. :lol:
Davante Adams fell to me at 1.11 that year. Drafting is such a crapshoot.

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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby trc » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:40 am

Jigga94 wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:27 pm
perkinsrooster wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:18 pm Everyone who (rightly at the time) picked him at 1.01 will be happy to close this book.
Gotta be the longest book with the most blank pages
Corey Davis will make a try at this...

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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:06 am

trc wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:40 am
Jigga94 wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:27 pm
perkinsrooster wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:18 pm Everyone who (rightly at the time) picked him at 1.01 will be happy to close this book.
Gotta be the longest book with the most blank pages
Corey Davis will make a try at this...
Idk his value is already a 3rd according to the masses. There were still Sammy owners a year ago saying they wouldn't sell for less than a 1st

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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:48 am

I don't get how this is a negotiation tactic.

Sitting out only works when you have leverage and are trying to get a new contract.

Lol

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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:17 am

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:48 am I don't get how this is a negotiation tactic.

Sitting out only works when you have leverage and are trying to get a new contract.

Lol
I imagine it’s to make it clear that he won’t take a pay cut, or to stop KC from being able to trade him.
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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:46 am

Maybe he just wants to spend time with his family, smoke weed, and not get hit. I can see more players doing this. I expect to see shorter football careers in general.

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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby Mike from Canada » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:37 am

trc wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:40 am
Jigga94 wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:27 pm
perkinsrooster wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:18 pm Everyone who (rightly at the time) picked him at 1.01 will be happy to close this book.
Gotta be the longest book with the most blank pages
Corey Davis will make a try at this...
I don't think many took Davis at 1.01.

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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby Goddard » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:39 am

I thought he was already sitting out in 2019...

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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby mild » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:42 am

perkinsrooster wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:37 am
trc wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:40 am
Jigga94 wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:27 pm

Gotta be the longest book with the most blank pages
Corey Davis will make a try at this...
I don't think many took Davis at 1.01.
The guy in my league did :lol: and he's STILL holding him!

Lets just say he didn't enjoy my messages this season about the "true WR1 in TEN" when I started sending him the AJ Brown highlights in week 4...

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Re: Sammy Watkins might sit out 2020

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:10 am

bjd5211 wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:05 pm I wasn't playing Dynasty back then, but how the hell do Sankey and West go over Evans? Evans was what 6th overall in the draft? I'm assuming it was a SF draft because of the QBs going so high, but Bortles and especially Manziel were blatantly obvious future busts to me from the very beginning, no chance I would have taken either. I know it's easy to say now, but I absolutely would have drafted

1 Watson
2 Evans
3 OBJ
I can guarantee that you wouldn't have...it's very easy to say in hindsight you would've taken those guys, but Sankey and Hyde both had a ton of hype, and Manziel's rushing potential made him a rookie darling as well. Beckham's injury issues in training camp and preseason also dropped his rookie draft stock.
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