2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

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2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby Phaded » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:59 pm

Because some people believe this is meaningful:

Ryan Finley: 43 (re-test)
Daniel Jones: 37
Easton Stick: 32
Will Grier: 30
Jarrett Stidham: 27
Drew Lock 26
Dwayne Haskins: 25
Tyree Jackson: 25
Kyler Murray: 20

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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby tresskid84 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:00 pm

Lol, none of the scores are low enough to concern me, so I don't care, lol.
2021-Orphan Rebuild, 12tm PPR, SF, 1.75 TE Prem
2 SF, 8 Flex

QB: Mayfield, Z Wilson, D Jones, Heinicke, Rudolph, Foles
RB: Herbert, Felton, Evans, Nwangwu, Calais
WR: D Smith, Waddle, Chark, J Palmer, D P-J, Raymond, Washington, Jauan, Darden, Fehoko, Smith-Marsette, C Johnson, Proche, Shi Smith, A Tate, ESB, JJAW
TE: O'Shaughnessy, Moreau, Granson, Tyree J, Hu Bryant, Hopkins, Fortson
2022 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 2.01, 2.09, and 3.02
2023 Picks: six 1sts, my 2nd

2021-Orphan Rebuild, 16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)

QB: Tua, Fields, Brissett, Foles, Purdy(D), T Morgan(D)
RB: Etienne, Gainwell, Homer, T Jones, J Hill, Ragas, Sargent, Calais, Funk,
WR: Cephus, Nico, J Palmer, Gage, Quez, P Williams, JJAW, Strachan, Proche, Lil'Jordan, Shi Smith, Fryfogle(D)
TE: Moreau, Maxx, H Long, RSJ, Tyree J
2022 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.12, 3.02, 3.07, 3.10, 3.11, 3.12, 3.15, 4.01, 4.02, 4.05, 4.07, 4.12, 4.15

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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:36 pm

FWIW, the lowest Wonderlic score for an active SB winning QB is a 25 (Big Ben) and the average Wonderlic score for all SB winning QBs still playing is 30.

20 is a low score for Murray. It's not Vince Young's 6, but 20 isn't good.

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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:45 pm

tresskid84 wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:00 pm Lol, none of the scores are low enough to concern me, so I don't care, lol.
Pretty much. Watson, Vick and Derek Carr also has a 20. Cam 21. Below 20 is a bit of concern (Paxton Lynch, Tyrod Taylor, Lamar Jackson), no franchise qb's have had one lower than 20 that have tested (of the list i'm looking at, i wouldn't be surprised if there was one) (edit: Dan Marino 16 i'm reading).

Also, a little odd you didn't just include the entire list.

43 Ryan Finley (re-test; scored 28 the first time)
42 Gardner Minshew
37 Daniel Jones
32 Easton Stick
32 Clayton Thorson
31 Trace McSorley
30 Will Grier
28 Brett Rypien
27 Jarrett Stidham
26 Drew Lock
25 Tyree Jackson
25 Dwayne Haskins
22 Sean McGuire
20 Kyler Murray

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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby Phaded » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:51 pm

The website I saw it apparently did not have the whole list.

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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby Blueboy » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:53 pm

I consider Wonderlic to be meaningless to evaluation.

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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby tresskid84 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:03 pm

Blueboy wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:53 pm I consider Wonderlic to be meaningless to evaluation.
Yeah, unless someone Vince Young's it, I really couldn't care less, lol.
2021-Orphan Rebuild, 12tm PPR, SF, 1.75 TE Prem
2 SF, 8 Flex

QB: Mayfield, Z Wilson, D Jones, Heinicke, Rudolph, Foles
RB: Herbert, Felton, Evans, Nwangwu, Calais
WR: D Smith, Waddle, Chark, J Palmer, D P-J, Raymond, Washington, Jauan, Darden, Fehoko, Smith-Marsette, C Johnson, Proche, Shi Smith, A Tate, ESB, JJAW
TE: O'Shaughnessy, Moreau, Granson, Tyree J, Hu Bryant, Hopkins, Fortson
2022 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 2.01, 2.09, and 3.02
2023 Picks: six 1sts, my 2nd

2021-Orphan Rebuild, 16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)

QB: Tua, Fields, Brissett, Foles, Purdy(D), T Morgan(D)
RB: Etienne, Gainwell, Homer, T Jones, J Hill, Ragas, Sargent, Calais, Funk,
WR: Cephus, Nico, J Palmer, Gage, Quez, P Williams, JJAW, Strachan, Proche, Lil'Jordan, Shi Smith, Fryfogle(D)
TE: Moreau, Maxx, H Long, RSJ, Tyree J
2022 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.12, 3.02, 3.07, 3.10, 3.11, 3.12, 3.15, 4.01, 4.02, 4.05, 4.07, 4.12, 4.15

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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby ArrylT » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:03 pm

What was Ryan Finleys original score one wonders - since it was a re-test?
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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby tresskid84 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:18 pm

ArrylT wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:03 pm What was Ryan Finleys original score one wonders - since it was a re-test?
His pencil slipped on the 3rd questions and he had to retake it.
2021-Orphan Rebuild, 12tm PPR, SF, 1.75 TE Prem
2 SF, 8 Flex

QB: Mayfield, Z Wilson, D Jones, Heinicke, Rudolph, Foles
RB: Herbert, Felton, Evans, Nwangwu, Calais
WR: D Smith, Waddle, Chark, J Palmer, D P-J, Raymond, Washington, Jauan, Darden, Fehoko, Smith-Marsette, C Johnson, Proche, Shi Smith, A Tate, ESB, JJAW
TE: O'Shaughnessy, Moreau, Granson, Tyree J, Hu Bryant, Hopkins, Fortson
2022 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 2.01, 2.09, and 3.02
2023 Picks: six 1sts, my 2nd

2021-Orphan Rebuild, 16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)

QB: Tua, Fields, Brissett, Foles, Purdy(D), T Morgan(D)
RB: Etienne, Gainwell, Homer, T Jones, J Hill, Ragas, Sargent, Calais, Funk,
WR: Cephus, Nico, J Palmer, Gage, Quez, P Williams, JJAW, Strachan, Proche, Lil'Jordan, Shi Smith, Fryfogle(D)
TE: Moreau, Maxx, H Long, RSJ, Tyree J
2022 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.12, 3.02, 3.07, 3.10, 3.11, 3.12, 3.15, 4.01, 4.02, 4.05, 4.07, 4.12, 4.15

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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby fakespike13 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:54 pm

Marino got a 16.
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RB: Kamara, Cook, Ekeler, CEH, Akers, Mattison, Ty Johnson, Funk, Nwangwu
WR: Tyreek, McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Aiyuk, Golladay, Chark, Edwards, Shenault, Palmer, Dyami
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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby fakespike13 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:59 pm

Also Mahomes got a 24 and Mayfield a 25, certainly not great but would you rather have any other young QBs on your real or fake team?

Also, despite his mediocre 25, mayfield scored the 2nd highest score ever on the AIQ test at the combine: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnati ... test-draft
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RB: Kamara, Cook, Ekeler, CEH, Akers, Mattison, Ty Johnson, Funk, Nwangwu
WR: Tyreek, McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Aiyuk, Golladay, Chark, Edwards, Shenault, Palmer, Dyami
TE: Kittle, Thomas

2022: 1,2,3,4,5


Irrational Integers
12 team SF
QB: Prescott, Watson, Minshew, D Jones, Newton
RB: Swift, J Williams, Akers, Cordarrelle, Mitchell
WR: Waddle, E Moore, Claypool, Patterson, R Moore, Bourne, Callaway, Treadwell
TE: Goedert, Shultz, Tonyan, Moreau, Parham

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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:49 pm

tresskid84 wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:18 pm
ArrylT wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:03 pm What was Ryan Finleys original score one wonders - since it was a re-test?
His pencil slipped on the 3rd questions and he had to retake it.
He probably missed a question, if it's multiple choice, but funny none the less.
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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:05 pm

I just did a short sample test online, without any prep or knowledge of the Wonderlic.

Scored in the 62% percentile, with 7 of 15 correct. That's not great, btw. I had expected a little better. But test-prep would help, as it seems time-management is important with this thing.

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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby Jfever » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:20 am

Wonder if we as a community would get as worked up about a low score on this test as some did with a 3 cone?

As a Qb, one needs to be able to think quickly, absorb vast amounts of material and submit new offensive schemes to memory quickly. Some qb's are smart, some are cerebral, some are both. A low score is a minor red flag. I wouldn't read too much into a score of 20, nor would I look at Marino's score from 1983 and consider it to be relevant to a score from 2019..... why, times, the league, and the tests themselves have changed. Dan Marino - 36 years ago - probably didn't try to be honest as the levity of the score likely meant very little to him at the time. Murray - in today's uber competitive environment with everything being over analyzed, at his physical stature - would have benefited more from a better score. 20 isnt good.
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Re: 2019 Wonderlic Scores on QBs

Postby diehard4life » Sun May 19, 2019 6:17 am

The Wonderlic test has been labeled as racially biased, like the ACT test, et al. Scores for minorities ought to be viewed with that in mind.

Like my years working in admissions in a Div.1 college—it isn’t equitable to consider these scores in terms of static figures. They may point to a blind spot due to race and/or social class that is not indicative of an actual learning deficit.
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