For team in sig:
Get: Andrew Freaking Luck
Give: Lacy, Peyton, 2015 1.11, 2016 2nd.
thoughts? Still in prelim trade phase, but this is what's currently being discussed. just trying to gauge if it's fair or not.
Luck for Lacy++
Luck for Lacy++
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1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex (RB/WR/TE)/1 Superflex (QB/RB/WR/TE)
'Ships: 2008, 2017, 2019, 2021; 2nd place: 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022
12 team PPR with 14 Keepers/year
2023 Draft Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 3.04, 3.07, 5.04
QB: L.Jackson, J. Burrow, G. Minshew, J. Winston
RB: J.Mixon, ETN, Jav.Williams, J.Conner, Z.Moss, JK Dobbins (IR), N.Chubb (IR)
WR: AJB, CD Lamb, DK, C.Sutton
TE: M.Andrews, T.McBride, I. Likely
'Ships: 2008, 2017, 2019, 2021; 2nd place: 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022
12 team PPR with 14 Keepers/year
2023 Draft Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 3.04, 3.07, 5.04
QB: L.Jackson, J. Burrow, G. Minshew, J. Winston
RB: J.Mixon, ETN, Jav.Williams, J.Conner, Z.Moss, JK Dobbins (IR), N.Chubb (IR)
WR: AJB, CD Lamb, DK, C.Sutton
TE: M.Andrews, T.McBride, I. Likely
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Re: Luck for Lacy++
Wow. Give me the Lacy side by a mile. I'd take Lacy alone over Luck.
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Re: Luck for Lacy++
Not even close for me. Peyton will suffice this year but in a standard 1 QB league, this is way off.
8th Year
12, 16 Champ
10 Team, PPR, IDP, 26 men, 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE
Rodgers
Gurley | Howard | Mixon | Kelley | Mckinnon | West | J Williams
OBJ | ARob | Nuk | M Thomas | KA | C Davis | Sammy | Parker | Moncrief | T Hill | Doctson
Kelce | Reed | Howard
K Mack
M Garrett
4th Year
15 Champ
12 Team, PPR. 22 Man Roster. 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE, K, D,
Cousins | Prescott
Gurley | Mixon | Kelley | J Williams | D Henderson
Evans | M Thomas | Nuk | ARob | Sammy | C Davis | Boyd | Parker
Kelce | Eifert | Howard | Engram | Shaheen
2nd Year
14 Team PPR, TE Prem. 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE
Mariota | Wentz
Mixon | Foreman | Hill
Treadwell | Dorsett | Strong | Peake | Humphries | Latimer
Escobar | Gresham
Picks: 2018-1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2
2019-1,1,2,2,3,4,5
12, 16 Champ
10 Team, PPR, IDP, 26 men, 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE
Rodgers
Gurley | Howard | Mixon | Kelley | Mckinnon | West | J Williams
OBJ | ARob | Nuk | M Thomas | KA | C Davis | Sammy | Parker | Moncrief | T Hill | Doctson
Kelce | Reed | Howard
K Mack
M Garrett
4th Year
15 Champ
12 Team, PPR. 22 Man Roster. 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE, K, D,
Cousins | Prescott
Gurley | Mixon | Kelley | J Williams | D Henderson
Evans | M Thomas | Nuk | ARob | Sammy | C Davis | Boyd | Parker
Kelce | Eifert | Howard | Engram | Shaheen
2nd Year
14 Team PPR, TE Prem. 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE
Mariota | Wentz
Mixon | Foreman | Hill
Treadwell | Dorsett | Strong | Peake | Humphries | Latimer
Escobar | Gresham
Picks: 2018-1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2
2019-1,1,2,2,3,4,5
Re: Luck for Lacy++
I might accept that if I could trade one of your many WRs for an RB. Luck & those WRs set you up for many years of high production.
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Re: Luck for Lacy++
Luck is worth more than Lacy?
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1QB, 1QB/RB/WR/TE, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Def, 1K
Passing: 2pt/20yds 5pt/TD; Rushing/Receiving: 2pt/10yds; 1PPR
QB's: ARod, Rivers, Sanchez, Manziel, Mallett, Mettenberger
RB's: Charles, Lacy, Ellington, Oliver, Davis, Starks, CMike
WR's: Julio, Maclin, Sanders, Watkins, Crabtree, Patterson, Quick
TE's: Graham, Kelce, ASJ
10 Team Superflex, Pass Heavy Scoring
1QB, 1QB/RB/WR/TE, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Def, 1K
Passing: 2pt/20yds 5pt/TD; Rushing/Receiving: 2pt/10yds; 1PPR
QB's: ARod, Rivers, Sanchez, Manziel, Mallett, Mettenberger
RB's: Charles, Lacy, Ellington, Oliver, Davis, Starks, CMike
WR's: Julio, Maclin, Sanders, Watkins, Crabtree, Patterson, Quick
TE's: Graham, Kelce, ASJ
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Re: Luck for Lacy++
I probably wouldn't do all of that, but the only reason why I don't hate this idea is that it's an 11 keeper league, short starting requirements, and your WR strength. It does make some sense to lock up QB and cobble together RB's. In this format I'd bet that you can just spend all of your draft picks on RB's every year and cobble it together when you're that set at WR.
I'd counter with Lacy+Peyton+(2.11 or 2016 2nd but not both)
I'd counter with Lacy+Peyton+(2.11 or 2016 2nd but not both)
12 teams, 20 roster spots, hard salary cap $225, 40% drop penalty, max contract 3 yrs (4 yrs for rookies), unlimited total yrs
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, DEF, K; PPR, 6 pts/TD pass
QB: Cam ($29/2015); Wilson ($5/2016)
RB: Gurley ($12/2018), McFadden ($4/2015); C. West ($11/2015), Spiller ($26/2016), Abdullah ($6/2018), Mason ($6/2016)
WR: Demaryius ($64/2015), Decker ($9/2017), DeSean ($22/2015), DGB ($1/2018), M.Jones ($2/2016); Allen ($1/2016)
TE: Walker ($1/2015), Bennett ($11/2017)
2016: 2 1sts
12 teams, 20 roster spots, Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, DEF, K; PPR, 4 pts/TD pass
QB: Wilson, Brees
RB: Forte, Ellington, C. Johnson, J. Allen, Michael, Starks,
WR: Mega, Allen, J.Matthews, Boldin, Stills, Britt
TE: Gronk, Witten
2016: 2 1sts
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, DEF, K; PPR, 6 pts/TD pass
QB: Cam ($29/2015); Wilson ($5/2016)
RB: Gurley ($12/2018), McFadden ($4/2015); C. West ($11/2015), Spiller ($26/2016), Abdullah ($6/2018), Mason ($6/2016)
WR: Demaryius ($64/2015), Decker ($9/2017), DeSean ($22/2015), DGB ($1/2018), M.Jones ($2/2016); Allen ($1/2016)
TE: Walker ($1/2015), Bennett ($11/2017)
2016: 2 1sts
12 teams, 20 roster spots, Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, DEF, K; PPR, 4 pts/TD pass
QB: Wilson, Brees
RB: Forte, Ellington, C. Johnson, J. Allen, Michael, Starks,
WR: Mega, Allen, J.Matthews, Boldin, Stills, Britt
TE: Gronk, Witten
2016: 2 1sts
Re: Luck for Lacy++
In my opinion: yes. The consensus of the forum: no.Jimmy Jones wrote:Luck is worth more than Lacy?
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Re: Luck for Lacy++
Lacy side by a mile. It's much easier to cobble together QBs every year than RBs. You can get 80-90% of Luck's production for like 10% of that cost easily after Peyton retires. While trying to get 80-90% of Lacy's production will be 100 times harder. You have one of the few young "stud" RBs don't sell him for 50 cents on the dollar.
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QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
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QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
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Re: Luck for Lacy++
I would say judging by the way you posted the trade you think that this is a slam dunk. I however do not, way too much for Luck. I would maybe trade Lacy straight up for Luck.
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Re: Luck for Lacy++
Wtf no man
TEAM 1
12 Team - 35 Roster - .5 PPR - IDP(bp) - 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FX - 2DL 2LB 2DB 1FX
QB: J. Allen, D. Watson
RB: T. Gurley, JK Dobbins, M. Ingram, M. Brown, G. Edwards, F. Gore
WR: J. Jefferson, J. Landry, M. Brown, AJ Green, J. Washington
TE: E. Engram, E. Ebron
TEAM 2
12 Team - 26 Roster - .5 PPR - 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FX
QB: J. Herbert, J. Allen
RB: M. Gordon, R. Jones, AJ Dillon, J. McKinnon
WR: K. Allen, B. Cooks, A. Robinson, C. Samuel, J. Jeudy, CD Lamb, D. Johnson
TE: Gronk, Irv Smith, J. Graham
TEAM 3
12 Team - 35 Roster - .5 PPR - IDP(bp) - 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF - 2DL 2LB 2DB
QB: A. Rodgers, J. Garoppolo, J. Love
RB: D. Cook, L. Fournette, P. Lindsay, M. Davis, L. Murray
WR: C. Ridley, DJ Moore, T. McLaurin, NC Lamb, K. Cupp, M. Williams, M. Brown
TE: H. Henrey, T. Higbee
12 Team - 35 Roster - .5 PPR - IDP(bp) - 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FX - 2DL 2LB 2DB 1FX
QB: J. Allen, D. Watson
RB: T. Gurley, JK Dobbins, M. Ingram, M. Brown, G. Edwards, F. Gore
WR: J. Jefferson, J. Landry, M. Brown, AJ Green, J. Washington
TE: E. Engram, E. Ebron
TEAM 2
12 Team - 26 Roster - .5 PPR - 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FX
QB: J. Herbert, J. Allen
RB: M. Gordon, R. Jones, AJ Dillon, J. McKinnon
WR: K. Allen, B. Cooks, A. Robinson, C. Samuel, J. Jeudy, CD Lamb, D. Johnson
TE: Gronk, Irv Smith, J. Graham
TEAM 3
12 Team - 35 Roster - .5 PPR - IDP(bp) - 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF - 2DL 2LB 2DB
QB: A. Rodgers, J. Garoppolo, J. Love
RB: D. Cook, L. Fournette, P. Lindsay, M. Davis, L. Murray
WR: C. Ridley, DJ Moore, T. McLaurin, NC Lamb, K. Cupp, M. Williams, M. Brown
TE: H. Henrey, T. Higbee
Re: Luck for Lacy++
I'm interested to hear why people value Lacy > Luck? DLF has Luck at 13 and Lacy at 16, and given Luck should produce top 5 stats for the next 10 years while Lacy might for 5, I'm a bit surprised.
Yes, I understand the argument about there being less top rbs compared to qbs. But is there? Between Luck/Rodgers/Wilson it seems like a lot of ? After that. And I understand the difference between the top QB and the 10th compared to rbs the differential is higher, but given my league structure with only 11 keepers, it seems like getting the top overall dynasty QB would be the smart move.
Yes, I understand the argument about there being less top rbs compared to qbs. But is there? Between Luck/Rodgers/Wilson it seems like a lot of ? After that. And I understand the difference between the top QB and the 10th compared to rbs the differential is higher, but given my league structure with only 11 keepers, it seems like getting the top overall dynasty QB would be the smart move.
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex (RB/WR/TE)/1 Superflex (QB/RB/WR/TE)
'Ships: 2008, 2017, 2019, 2021; 2nd place: 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022
12 team PPR with 14 Keepers/year
2023 Draft Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 3.04, 3.07, 5.04
QB: L.Jackson, J. Burrow, G. Minshew, J. Winston
RB: J.Mixon, ETN, Jav.Williams, J.Conner, Z.Moss, JK Dobbins (IR), N.Chubb (IR)
WR: AJB, CD Lamb, DK, C.Sutton
TE: M.Andrews, T.McBride, I. Likely
'Ships: 2008, 2017, 2019, 2021; 2nd place: 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022
12 team PPR with 14 Keepers/year
2023 Draft Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 3.04, 3.07, 5.04
QB: L.Jackson, J. Burrow, G. Minshew, J. Winston
RB: J.Mixon, ETN, Jav.Williams, J.Conner, Z.Moss, JK Dobbins (IR), N.Chubb (IR)
WR: AJB, CD Lamb, DK, C.Sutton
TE: M.Andrews, T.McBride, I. Likely
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