Grade my rebuild so far...

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Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby M-Dub » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:05 pm

Here is the team I inherited in late April:

QB: D. Brees, T. Romo, J. Football
RB: L. McCoy, L. Blount, D. Sproles, D. Martin, C. Hyde
WR: K. Benjamin, S. Watkins, J. Edelman, P. Garcon
TE: J. Thomas
1:12, 2:12
2016: one 1st, one 2nd

After a bunch of trades, both before and after the rookie draft, I've molded it into the current lineup in my sig. This is my first foray into dynasty football, and there have been a couple bumps in the road, but I feel like I've put myself in a pretty good position to be a serious contender by 2017, if not next season if a few things fall my way.

What do you think?

BTW, if you're wondering why I traded away Benjamin and Watkins in a rebuild, it was in a trade for Gronk before I had fully committed to idea of rebuilding.
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QB: Wilson
RB: CMC, Mixon, Lindsay, Gallman, M. Davis, Pollard, Booker
WR: Godwin, Golladay, Woods, Keenan, Crowder, Sammy, Coulter
TE: Ertz, Irv Smith, L. Thomas
Taxi: Tua, McFarland, Joe Reed, Hurts

Put The Coke On My Dak
QB: Dak, Ryan, Baker
RB: CMC, Sanders, Mixon, Dobbins, Foreman
WR: Chark, Viska, Kirk, Patrick, Perriman, Coutee, Isabella, J. Grant, Coulter
TE: Kelce, OJH, Warring
Taxi: Duvernay, Hurts, Cephus

Keep On Hockenson the Free World
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Stafford $8/1, Hill $1/1
RB: CEH $26/5, Vaughn $9/4, Coleman $17/2, Gallman $1/1, Breida $1/1
WR: Godwin $50/3, DJM $43/3, Fuller $14/1, Crowder $21/1, Sanders $20/1, Mims $6/5, Edwards $3/5, Hamler $2/3, Patrick $1/1, Lazard $1/1, D. Moore $1/1
TE: Hock $20/4, Trautman $2/5

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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby TomBobAnderson » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:47 pm

D... I like your 1sts next year but man. You traded your 2 best and youngest assets

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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby ch4351 » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:56 pm

yeah having 3 firsts next year is nice but i dont feel like you got a ton of bang for you buck. i tend to agree with sugar. List your trades if it isnt too much work i wouldnt mind seeing them all. you definitely sold short on some assets.
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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby lawilt » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:38 pm

looks like you gave up a ton a value....Brees shady KB sammy for white(if acquired through trades) and some future 1sts

not a good start

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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby bpatrick » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:42 pm

Like the original team much more than what you have now. Sorry.
Team #1: 12 team, (1 QB 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, DEF), PPR (0.5/1/1), 22-player roster

QB: Newton, Foles, Carr
RB: Hill, TRich, Taliaferro, A Williams, D Williams
WR: AJ, Gordon, Benjamin, M Bryant, Jennings, C Hogan, Austin, Dobson, Janis, D Carter, C Washington
TE: Graham

Team #2: 12-team, (1 QB 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, K, DEF), PPR (0.5/1/1), 25-player roster

QB: Ryan, Bridgewater
RB: Forte, Ellington, Forsett, Hill, Bush, Taliaferro, Cunningham
WR: Megatron, Julio, Gordon, A Johnson, VJax, CPatt, Colston, D Baldwin, C Hogan, Charles Johnson
TE: Gronk, Witten
IR: C Palmer, K Moreno, T Gaffney

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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby bpatrick » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:43 pm

lawilt wrote:looks like you gave up a ton a value....Brees shady KB sammy for white(if acquired through trades) and some future 1sts

not a good start
And apparently traded Gronk somewhere in there too.
Team #1: 12 team, (1 QB 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, DEF), PPR (0.5/1/1), 22-player roster

QB: Newton, Foles, Carr
RB: Hill, TRich, Taliaferro, A Williams, D Williams
WR: AJ, Gordon, Benjamin, M Bryant, Jennings, C Hogan, Austin, Dobson, Janis, D Carter, C Washington
TE: Graham

Team #2: 12-team, (1 QB 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, K, DEF), PPR (0.5/1/1), 25-player roster

QB: Ryan, Bridgewater
RB: Forte, Ellington, Forsett, Hill, Bush, Taliaferro, Cunningham
WR: Megatron, Julio, Gordon, A Johnson, VJax, CPatt, Colston, D Baldwin, C Hogan, Charles Johnson
TE: Gronk, Witten
IR: C Palmer, K Moreno, T Gaffney

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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby lawilt » Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:45 pm

if the pick used to get white was owned prior to the deals then it really looks bad

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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby timmahawk » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:24 pm

Looks like rookie fever to me. Hopefully those future firsts are top picks.

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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby M-Dub » Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:00 am

Per request, here are the moves, trades and draft picks that got me to where I'm at, for better or worse:

Dropped Doug Martin without realizing that I couldn't add any players at the time. Oops.

Gave Brees, Benjamin, Watkins, Thomas and the 1:12. Received P. Manning, T. West, M. Bryant, Gronk and the 2:07.

Traded Sproles for the 2:02.

Right before the rookie draft, I traded McCoy for the 2:03, 2:04 and a 2016 1st. [This is the point where I officially committed to rebuilding.]

Drafted Funchess (2:02), Ajayi (2:03), Davis (2:04), Maxx (2:07) & Cobb (2:12).

Gave Edelman, Garcon, Romo, West. Received L. Murray, N. Foles, M. Ball.

Traded Manning for Perriman.

Three-way trade: Gave Gronk & Ball. Received White, Strong, Gordon & 2016 1st.
All are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

Kylie Quinn Fan Club
QB: Wilson
RB: CMC, Mixon, Lindsay, Gallman, M. Davis, Pollard, Booker
WR: Godwin, Golladay, Woods, Keenan, Crowder, Sammy, Coulter
TE: Ertz, Irv Smith, L. Thomas
Taxi: Tua, McFarland, Joe Reed, Hurts

Put The Coke On My Dak
QB: Dak, Ryan, Baker
RB: CMC, Sanders, Mixon, Dobbins, Foreman
WR: Chark, Viska, Kirk, Patrick, Perriman, Coutee, Isabella, J. Grant, Coulter
TE: Kelce, OJH, Warring
Taxi: Duvernay, Hurts, Cephus

Keep On Hockenson the Free World
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Stafford $8/1, Hill $1/1
RB: CEH $26/5, Vaughn $9/4, Coleman $17/2, Gallman $1/1, Breida $1/1
WR: Godwin $50/3, DJM $43/3, Fuller $14/1, Crowder $21/1, Sanders $20/1, Mims $6/5, Edwards $3/5, Hamler $2/3, Patrick $1/1, Lazard $1/1, D. Moore $1/1
TE: Hock $20/4, Trautman $2/5

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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby whodunnit » Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:19 am

bpatrick wrote:Like the original team much more than what you have now. Sorry.
This...
M-Dub wrote:Per request, here are the moves, trades and draft picks that got me to where I'm at, for better or worse:

Dropped Doug Martin without realizing that I couldn't add any players at the time. Oops.

Gave Brees, Benjamin, Watkins, Thomas and the 1:12. Received P. Manning, T. West, M. Bryant, Gronk and the 2:07.

Traded Sproles for the 2:02.

Right before the rookie draft, I traded McCoy for the 2:03, 2:04 and a 2016 1st. [This is the point where I officially committed to rebuilding.]

Drafted Funchess (2:02), Ajayi (2:03), Davis (2:04), Maxx (2:07) & Cobb (2:12).

Gave Edelman, Garcon, Romo, West. Received L. Murray, N. Foles, M. Ball.

Traded Manning for Perriman.

Three-way trade: Gave Gronk & Ball. Received White, Strong, Gordon & 2016 1st.
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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby M-Dub » Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:24 am

timmahawk wrote:Looks like rookie fever to me. Hopefully those future firsts are top picks.
Maybe a little bit of rookie fever, but probably more like "new owner" fever. I think I made out pretty well in some of the trades (the Sproles and Manning trades, at the very least), but others might be more a product of me being new to dynasty and wanting to remake the team in my own image before even establishing any sort of long-term plan.

There's still a free agent auction before the NFL season starts, where I'll probably try to shore up my TE situation (J. Hill and L. Green are both available, as are both Denver TEs) and look for a viable QB (E. Manning? Dalton? Bradford?).

Considering how shitty my team looks right now, I should have a really good shot at the 1:01 or 1:02 next year, which would give me four of the top 13-14 picks in the 2016 draft.

The biggest "X factor" is whether or not Gordon returns and how good he is if he does. If he's even close to his 2013 form, I could be a contender as early as next year. If he flames out, I'll just have to hope that enough of my rookies (both this year and next) pan out. They might be dart throws, but at least I have a lot of them. Bound to hit at least a couple bullseyes, right?
All are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

Kylie Quinn Fan Club
QB: Wilson
RB: CMC, Mixon, Lindsay, Gallman, M. Davis, Pollard, Booker
WR: Godwin, Golladay, Woods, Keenan, Crowder, Sammy, Coulter
TE: Ertz, Irv Smith, L. Thomas
Taxi: Tua, McFarland, Joe Reed, Hurts

Put The Coke On My Dak
QB: Dak, Ryan, Baker
RB: CMC, Sanders, Mixon, Dobbins, Foreman
WR: Chark, Viska, Kirk, Patrick, Perriman, Coutee, Isabella, J. Grant, Coulter
TE: Kelce, OJH, Warring
Taxi: Duvernay, Hurts, Cephus

Keep On Hockenson the Free World
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Stafford $8/1, Hill $1/1
RB: CEH $26/5, Vaughn $9/4, Coleman $17/2, Gallman $1/1, Breida $1/1
WR: Godwin $50/3, DJM $43/3, Fuller $14/1, Crowder $21/1, Sanders $20/1, Mims $6/5, Edwards $3/5, Hamler $2/3, Patrick $1/1, Lazard $1/1, D. Moore $1/1
TE: Hock $20/4, Trautman $2/5

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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby sloth8u » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:32 am

i wouldnt get too discouraged with some of the comments. its pretty common for a new owner to step in and blow up a team, only to get this type of result. i play in alot of leagues and see all types of teams taken over. some obviously need tore down, but most get tore down like youve done for no reason. try not to be the guy who takes over a team, tears it apart....and then walks away in a year or two. stick with your plan and all will be just fine.

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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby ch4351 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:39 am

Dude you had some really nice trades in there the only glaring one was trading gronk and bell. You can't win them all but who knows maybe gronk and bell peaked.
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex(RB/WR/TE), 1 TE, 1 D/ST, 1 K Starters in bold

QB: Cousins, Goff, Hundley IR - Rodgers
RB: Mixon, Ingram, J McKinnon, I. Crowell, Montgomery, Aaron Jones, W. Gallman, Deangelo Henderson, IR - David Johnson
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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby lawilt » Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:03 am

yikes the shady deal is really bad

so you essentially trade KB, Brees, Sammy, Thomas and a late 1st for Perriman, White, Strong, and a 1st....better team prior to that

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Re: Grade my rebuild so far...

Postby trader101 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:14 am

sloth8u wrote:i wouldnt get too discouraged with some of the comments. its pretty common for a new owner to step in and blow up a team, only to get this type of result. i play in alot of leagues and see all types of teams taken over. some obviously need tore down, but most get tore down like youve done for no reason. try not to be the guy who takes over a team, tears it apart....and then walks away in a year or two. stick with your plan and all will be just fine.
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