Cruz value

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What pick range would you say

1st-5th
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6th-10th
1
6%
11th-15th
0
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16th-20th
5
29%
20th-25th
7
41%
25th-30th
4
24%
 
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Cruz value

Postby AresGodOWar » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:29 pm

Value ?
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TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

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QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
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Re: Cruz value

Postby Boston Cleo » Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:44 pm

I'd say 2.10 at most and I don't know that I'd give that. Huge injury risk and even when he comes back I think he's a shadow of his former self.
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Re: Cruz value

Postby AresGodOWar » Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:45 pm

Boston Cleo wrote:I'd say 2.10 at most and I don't know that I'd give that. Huge injury risk and even when he comes back I think he's a shadow of his former self.
ok cool so the reward isn't worth letting him go then
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RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

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QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

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QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
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Re: Cruz value

Postby spa12397 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:53 pm

He is a hold....but if you are selling I don't see too many people giving more than the 2.10....Some people might actually would rather draft 2.10

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Re: Cruz value

Postby OddKnob » Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:58 pm

By his March ADP, right around 100, late 1st would be closer to the mark. If it's for your team above, I'd probably try to shoot for that range- 1.9-2.3-ish. I might just hold him given the potential hits you took with Marshall and Maclin moving to worse areas (and Hartline too, but he's less important to your roster). Hope that helps.
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Re: Cruz value

Postby spa12397 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:02 pm

I don't see any owner who would take that risk to get him.

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Re: Cruz value

Postby joeday » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:03 pm

I saw him go in one of my lgs for an early 2nd and the owner that bought him is a solid player.
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Re: Cruz value

Postby AresGodOWar » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:08 pm

OddKnob wrote:By his March ADP, right around 100, late 1st would be closer to the mark. If it's for your team above, I'd probably try to shoot for that range- 1.9-2.3-ish. I might just hold him given the potential hits you took with Marshall and Maclin moving to worse areas (and Hartline too, but he's less important to your roster). Hope that helps.
Yea he is only my 5 or 6 best wr I'll just hold him for now ... I do like Marshall more on the Jets with a new coach and no running game then when he was on the bears with a good rb , i figure it dont get worst then cutler as a qb anyway lol ... Maclin should get around.10 targets a game in KC i dont think they gave him 11mil a year to look good out there
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QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Cruz value

Postby arevirrm » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:06 pm

I gave him for Sankey last month. Needed some rb possibilities, and Cruz was low on my wr list.

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Re: Cruz value

Postby AresGodOWar » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:35 pm

updated please vote
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
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Re: Cruz value

Postby knotts4372 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:38 pm

if you cant get a late 1st/early 2nd then hes a hold. dont sell lower than that tho
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Re: Cruz value

Postby AresGodOWar » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:42 pm

knotts4372 wrote:if you cant get a late 1st/early 2nd then hes a hold. dont sell lower than that tho
Kk sounds good ty
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Cruz value

Postby trvrpryc » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:54 pm

late first for Cruz....? Are you high?
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Re: Cruz value

Postby knotts4372 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:09 pm

trvrpryc wrote:late first for Cruz....? Are you high?
nope not at all. he was worth that before he got hurt. freak injuries dont make him a garbage player. if ppl wanna sell him at his low value now so be it but it would be dumb to sell right now unless you get what hes worth. which is a late 1st/early 2nd. its the basic rules of value
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Re: Cruz value

Postby blaguskida15 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:21 pm

I am a Cruz owner that has been actively trying to sell him. I tried to package him with my 1.10 to move up to the 1.07, but was rejected. Nobody wants him right now and I get it. He's coming off an injury that most players never full bounce back from. In my book, he's worth a late 2nd rounder right now. That said, I'd rather sit on him and hope for some sort of in-season value rebound than sell him for peanuts now. Long story short, now isn't the time to sell him unless you're willing to take pennies on the dollar.
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