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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby trader101 » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:04 pm

arikyox wrote:
ironbaden1981 wrote:With the RBs in this years draft and the top end strength at wr why not keep the picks and go after a Parker/DGB with 1.07 and a RB at 1.09 someone like yeldon or Ajayi will be there. Those players could add more to your team than getting only one player. Your team is more than one piece away from being competitive anyway. I think the picks are more valuable to your teams future.
I respectfully disagree all around. It's highly unlikely that either Parker or dgb are available at 7. You are probably looking at ajayi being available maybe. I think with lacy you are competitive. It's been proven time and time again that the best team on paper does not always win it all, so your team + lacy gives you a good shot, and more importantly you could flip lacy for more than you're giving up. It's positive investing at the worst. If it was tre mason then yeah, it's giving up too much for one player; but this is arguably the second best rb in dynasty right now.
I think we were just writing this at the same exact time...it's like we read each other's mind. whoaaa :shock:
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Qb: Russel Wilson, Ryan Tannehill, Tyrod Taylor
Rb: Mark Ingram, Thomas Rawls, Melvin Gordon, Jay Ajayi, Isaiah Crowell, Spencer Ware, Jordan Howard, Keith Marshall, Tim Hightower
Wr: Deandre Hopkins, Randall Cobb, TY Hilton, Michael Floyd, Corey Coleman, Phillip Dorsett
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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby AresGodOWar » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:10 pm

What are your guys thoughts on Mason , what lvl WR can I get for him and my 1.08 or 3.10 ?
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby trader101 » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:14 pm

AresGodOWar wrote:What are your guys thoughts on Mason , what lvl WR can I get for him and my 1.08 or 3.10 ?
I think you are overthinking this Lacy trade...is that still available? In the end you should know how your league values Tre more than us. If I were to trade Tre and 1.08 I would want a TY type player but I don't know if that works. If I had TY I wouldn't do it. After the TY type player it drops to a Tate, Cooks, Floyd, etc type player and I think you'd be overpaying for that.
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Rb: Mark Ingram, Thomas Rawls, Melvin Gordon, Jay Ajayi, Isaiah Crowell, Spencer Ware, Jordan Howard, Keith Marshall, Tim Hightower
Wr: Deandre Hopkins, Randall Cobb, TY Hilton, Michael Floyd, Corey Coleman, Phillip Dorsett
Te: Delanie Walker
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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby AresGodOWar » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:16 pm

I was thinking about if I gave up a 1.09 for Miller then I would have a extra RB to trade for a WR I needed
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby trader101 » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:23 pm

Not a bad thought. If you can do Miller straight up for 1.9 I think that's legit. I just think Lacy has a much longer and brighter future. I can't see him not in the top 10 rb's for the next 5 years barring injury...gets carries, receptions, and td's
2Qb, 2Rb, 3Wr, 1Te, 1Rb/Wr/Te, 1D/St, 1K. Roster 20, Keep 10, Roster 20, 0.5 ppr league
Qb: Russel Wilson, Ryan Tannehill, Tyrod Taylor
Rb: Mark Ingram, Thomas Rawls, Melvin Gordon, Jay Ajayi, Isaiah Crowell, Spencer Ware, Jordan Howard, Keith Marshall, Tim Hightower
Wr: Deandre Hopkins, Randall Cobb, TY Hilton, Michael Floyd, Corey Coleman, Phillip Dorsett
Te: Delanie Walker
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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby trader101 » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:26 pm

FYI I'm an avid Fins fan. I think Miller is good, especially when he has good blocking. However, he goes down on first contact easily. If they did find a better back, he is not so good that he could not be replaceable. Keep in mind Moreno looked better early on, and they felt free to ride him more. I don't think they burn a high pick on an rb or pursue a high end rb in the near future, but Miller is by no means an elite talent. He's above average in space. Without it he's below average.
2Qb, 2Rb, 3Wr, 1Te, 1Rb/Wr/Te, 1D/St, 1K. Roster 20, Keep 10, Roster 20, 0.5 ppr league
Qb: Russel Wilson, Ryan Tannehill, Tyrod Taylor
Rb: Mark Ingram, Thomas Rawls, Melvin Gordon, Jay Ajayi, Isaiah Crowell, Spencer Ware, Jordan Howard, Keith Marshall, Tim Hightower
Wr: Deandre Hopkins, Randall Cobb, TY Hilton, Michael Floyd, Corey Coleman, Phillip Dorsett
Te: Delanie Walker
K: N/A
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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby ironbaden1981 » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:43 pm

I respectfully disagree all around. It's highly unlikely that either Parker or dgb are available at 7. You are probably looking at ajayi being available maybe. I think with lacy you are competitive. It's been proven time and time again that the best team on paper does not always win it all, so your team + lacy gives you a good shot, and more importantly you could flip lacy for more than you're giving up. It's positive investing at the worst. If it was tre mason then yeah, it's giving up too much for one player; but this is arguably the second best rb in dynasty right now.[/quote]

It's a long way away from the draft and all it takes is one rb getting a bump in the next few months for one of those WRs to fall out of the top 6. Lacy is fine but with the glaring need at WR to get one of them--or trading the two picks to get into the top 5--and a RB later makes more sense.
Every year there is a new top 5 RBs so assuming that Lacy will hold value--when Green Bay already spelled him with Starks throughout the year--is taking a risk that gaining multiple players will not carry. I feel that trading picks to move up and get one of the top 3 WRs this year or taking best available and trying to build youth would better serve your team. Two years ago Rice was a top 3 RB and he tanked, last year Charles was a top RB and he finished outside the top 10. Your team is better served by building through the draft with 2 top 10 picks or trading to a point where a top WR could be gained--since WR is the real weak spot on your team.

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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby AresGodOWar » Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:07 pm

My plan was trying to trade maybe my 1.09 for L.Miller , Then trading T.Mason and maybe my 3.10 for a good WR , Then maybe taking a WR with my 1.08 pick so I would have 2 good RBs still and 4 good WRs .. Or maybe just trading my 1.09 and 3.10 for a good WR and draft another with my 1.08

What would you rather have ?

(1) Wilson , Mason , Morris , Hopkins , Maclin , 1.08 WR , 1.09/3.10 traded for WR , Olsen

(2) Wilson , Miller , Morris , Hopkins , Maclin , 1.08 WR , Mason/3.10 traded for WR , Olsen

(3) Wilson , Mason , Morris , Hopkins , Maclin , 1.08 WR , 1.09 WR , Olsen

(4) Wilson , Mason , Morris , Miller , Hopkins , Maclin , 1.08 WR , Olsen

Thank you for all your input fellas :)
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QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby ironbaden1981 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:11 am

If you can do 1.09 for Miller I would do that. Then try to trade 1.08, 2.10, and a RB you have to get into the top 5 and get a White, Cooper, DGB, Parker to really improve your WRs.

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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby ironbaden1981 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:14 am

I would not trade Mason. If there is a flex Miller/Morris in RB and Mason in your flex is nice based on your weakness at WR.

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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby AresGodOWar » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:23 am

Yeah it is QB/2RB/3WR/TE/K/D/Flex
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby knotts4372 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:44 am

passing over the slam dunk with getting lacy reasonably priced but you rather go for miller? thats nuts. take lacy and you are a contender if you can trade morris and spiller for wr help. you are over thinking it here big time
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Re: Trade Advice please

Postby AresGodOWar » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:03 am

The Lacy offer wasn't to me I was thinking about offering him it , He don't wanna give up Lacy now
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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