Who won this trade? {Poll}

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Who won? If anyone

Team receiving Graham
8
20%
Team receiving Dez
24
59%
Even trade
9
22%
 
Total votes: 41

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Who won this trade? {Poll}

Postby Ioverpayforrookies » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:57 pm

It's for team 1 in my sig, haven't updated players yet. 2TE/3RB starting league.

Team 1 receives: Jimmy Graham, Alshon Jeffery, Isaiah Crowell, 2.6
Team 2 receives: Dez Bryant, Jordan Cameron, Jeremy Hill, Jarvis Landry
Team 1:
10 team, .5 ppr, 30 man roster - 2 QB, 3 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 1 W/R Flex
QB: Brees, Cousins,Winston, Foles, Finley
WR: Julio, Hilton, Edelman Woods, Landry, M. Williams, A. Robinson, Harmon, Meyers, Butler
RB: Gurley, D. Cook, Mack Lindsay, Mixon, Hines, Jon. Williams
TE: Hooper, Everett, Eifert, Irv, I. Thomas

Team 2:
10 team, .5 ppr, 45 man roster, 1QB, 3 RB, 5 WR, 2 TE 1 W/R/T flex, 1 SF, 1 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 2 CB, 2 S, 1 DEF Flex
QB:Brady, Darnold Goff, Foles, Finley
WR: Godwin, Edelman, Kirk, Hilton, Landry, J. Brown A. Miller, MVS, Cobb, AB, Harmon
RB:Gurley, D. Freeman, A. Jones Sanders, Jon. Williams, L. Miller, Ajayi, K. Hunt
TE:Waller, Rudolph Graham, Fells
DT:Phillips
DE:Campbell, R. Quinnp
LB:Leonard, Deion Jones, Barrett, R. Evans/b]
CB:L. Ryan, Jenkins
S:D. James, Simmonsr

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Re: Who won this trade? {Poll}

Postby trvrpryc » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:59 pm

It is somewhat close but I think the team receiving Dez wins.. Especially if Cameron returns to form.
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QB: Rodgers, Lock, Herbert
RB: Gurley, Henry, Chubb, Coleman, Snell
WR: M.Thomas, Evans, JuJu, AJ Brown, Watkins, Ward
TE: Kelce, Gronk, OJ Howard
PK: Prater
DT: Donald, Buckner
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LB: Leonard, AJ Johnson, Jayon Brown
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Re: Who won this trade? {Poll}

Postby Fantasyfanatic11 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:02 pm

I view it as:

Dez>Alshon
Cameron<Graham
Hill>Crowell
Landry>2.6

Dez side by a lot for me, regardless if Cameron returns to form or not. If he leaves cleveland and lands in a good spot then it makes the trade even better for Dez side.
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QB: Herbert Purdy Garoppolo Winston
RB: Chubb Bijan Kamara White Singletary Gainwell CEH Penny
WR: Cooper Moore Dotson Beckham Mooney Mingo Renfrow
TE: LaPorta Kittle Waller

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QB: Herbert
RB: A.Jones Elliott Spears Gainwell Fournette
WR: Kupp Olave M.Williams Flowers OBJ Dotson Johnston Palmer Claypool
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Re: Who won this trade? {Poll}

Postby AOS2323 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:25 pm

I like the Dez side by a lot. Dez is among the elite of the elite, Hill and Landry are young but already putting up numbers and Cameron could turn into a lot more than he's been. Losing Graham sucks but Crowell is still unproven and on Clevelands crap offense and personally, I think Jeffery is going to score lower next year.
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RB- M. Forte, L. Miller, C.Hyde, B.Pierce, T. Gerhart, Storm Johnson, Damien Williams
WR Julio. Jones, S.Watkins D. Hopkins, Marlon Brown, Larry Fitzgerald
TE- T. Wright, D.Walker, C. Gilmore
DE- C. Heyward, M.Bennett
LB.-Laurinitis, Clay Matthews, Kiko Alonso, Telvin Smith
CB/S- T.Branch, B.Carr,M.Elam, A.Verner, T.Porter, R. Jones

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QB-Manning,D. Carr
RB- Ridley
WR- J. Landry, Harvin, B. Marshall, B. Lafell, C. Shorts, B. Quick, T. Williams
TE- H. Miller, J. Cook
PK-K. Forbath, M. Crosby, M. Prater
DL-Mario Williams, N. Fairley, S. Marks
LB- Pepeprs, Hali, P. Posluszny, Telvin Smith
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Re: Who won this trade? {Poll}

Postby Ron_Y » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:08 pm

Love the feedback, im the team giving up Dez (Team 1 below)!

My viewpoint:

in a 2TE league, if i can have Julio/Alshon/Sammy as my starting WR's with Jimmy Graham as one of my two TE's, that is worth losing out on Dez.

I see

Dez > Alshon (finished as WR's 4 and 10 last year)
Cameron <<< Graham
Hill > Crowell
Landry > 2.6

Overall i feel like i did give up a bit, but totally worth it as a contending team who has been lacking an elite TE for a long time, and i still get to keep 3 really good WR's starting.

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QB: Herbert, Carr, Howell
RB: Saquon, Mixon, A. Jones Henderson, Mitchell, CEH, Wilson
WR: Jefferson, Chase, Amon-Ra, Meyers, QJohnston, Zay. Mooney
TE: Kelce, Higbee, Parham, Likely,

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Re: Who won this trade? {Poll}

Postby invisibulman » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:33 pm

Team 1 receives: Jimmy Graham, Alshon Jeffery, Isaiah Crowell, 2.6
Team 2 receives: Dez Bryant, Jordan Cameron, Jeremy Hill, Jarvis Landry

Dez > Graham
Hill <<< Jeffrey
Landry > Crowell
Cameron = 2.6

Pretty even IMO.
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2QB: Stafford, Carr, Mishew, Bridgewater, Herbert
3RB: Taylor, Ekeler, K. Johnson, Mack, AJ Dillon
4WR: Cooper, Ridley, T. Hill, Slayton, Pittman, Westbrook
2TE: Ertz, Gesicki, Hurst, Everett

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Re: Who won this trade? {Poll}

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:37 pm

In general, the Dez side won. BUT, in a 2TE league, I lean toward the Graham side.
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: Who won this trade? {Poll}

Postby Ron_Y » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:39 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:In general, the Dez side won. BUT, in a 2TE league, I lean toward the Graham side.
Yeah, in a nuthsell that is pretty much what my conclusion is. I'm happy to have Graham, sad to see Dez go.
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QB: Herbert, Carr, Howell
RB: Saquon, Mixon, A. Jones Henderson, Mitchell, CEH, Wilson
WR: Jefferson, Chase, Amon-Ra, Meyers, QJohnston, Zay. Mooney
TE: Kelce, Higbee, Parham, Likely,

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Re: Who won this trade? {Poll}

Postby kmbryant09 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:44 pm

Here's my breakdown:

Graham / Jeffrey >> Dez / Hill

Sure, Cameron / Landry probably have more value than Crowell / 2.06 - but that's chump change when getting 2 studs in Graham and Jeffrey.

I know Hill's value is pretty high right now, but that just makes him a good sell-high candidate.
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QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
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Re: Who won this trade? {Poll}

Postby Ioverpayforrookies » Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:22 pm

And i'm obviously the team receiving Dez.

I'll be honest, Graham pissed me off last season with his couple of goose egg games. Those games, I didn't lose by many points so even if he had scored maybe 10 points instead of 0, I probably would've made the playoffs.

I see most votes are favoring my side, but I tend to lean toward it being more even. Like my trade partner said in his post above, he now has a starting WR core of Julio, Watkins, and Jeffery. I happen to own the 1.1 and plan on drafting Gurley, so my starting RBs become McCoy, Gurley, and J. Hill. I think we both did well with this trade.

Thanks for the feedback everyone!
Team 1:
10 team, .5 ppr, 30 man roster - 2 QB, 3 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 1 W/R Flex
QB: Brees, Cousins,Winston, Foles, Finley
WR: Julio, Hilton, Edelman Woods, Landry, M. Williams, A. Robinson, Harmon, Meyers, Butler
RB: Gurley, D. Cook, Mack Lindsay, Mixon, Hines, Jon. Williams
TE: Hooper, Everett, Eifert, Irv, I. Thomas

Team 2:
10 team, .5 ppr, 45 man roster, 1QB, 3 RB, 5 WR, 2 TE 1 W/R/T flex, 1 SF, 1 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 2 CB, 2 S, 1 DEF Flex
QB:Brady, Darnold Goff, Foles, Finley
WR: Godwin, Edelman, Kirk, Hilton, Landry, J. Brown A. Miller, MVS, Cobb, AB, Harmon
RB:Gurley, D. Freeman, A. Jones Sanders, Jon. Williams, L. Miller, Ajayi, K. Hunt
TE:Waller, Rudolph Graham, Fells
DT:Phillips
DE:Campbell, R. Quinnp
LB:Leonard, Deion Jones, Barrett, R. Evans/b]
CB:L. Ryan, Jenkins
S:D. James, Simmonsr

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Re: Who won this trade? {Poll}

Postby Ron_Y » Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:52 pm

Ioverpayforrookies wrote:And i'm obviously the team receiving Dez.

I'll be honest, Graham pissed me off last season with his couple of goose egg games. Those games, I didn't lose by many points so even if he had scored maybe 10 points instead of 0, I probably would've made the playoffs.

I see most votes are favoring my side, but I tend to lean toward it being more even. Like my trade partner said in his post above, he now has a starting WR core of Julio, Watkins, and Jeffery. I happen to own the 1.1 and plan on drafting Gurley, so my starting RBs become McCoy, Gurley, and J. Hill. I think we both did well with this trade.

Thanks for the feedback everyone!
No, just thank me for my feedback.
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QB: Herbert, Carr, Howell
RB: Saquon, Mixon, A. Jones Henderson, Mitchell, CEH, Wilson
WR: Jefferson, Chase, Amon-Ra, Meyers, QJohnston, Zay. Mooney
TE: Kelce, Higbee, Parham, Likely,


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