OBJ Hypothetical offer

[Tsunami]

Someone asked what I would want for Odell Beckham Jr. and I just threw out that I might take DeSean Jackson + CJ Spiller + Denard Robinson + Justin Hunter + a 2016 1st. I know most people here seem to think that whoever gets the best player in the trade wins no matter what they give up, but I like to sell high and I think this is like getting five 1sts for a player I got cheap early in the season. Is this good value, or is it asking too much, or what?

[dlf_jules]

To me, that's more like getting two firsts: DJax + 2016 1st. Hunter isn't fetching a first, and neither is Spiller. Robinson -- I just saw him traded for a late 3rd and a late 4th.

[Huddle3233]

Id rather have OBJ in a landslide.

[Odell Beckham Senior]

To me, that's more like getting two firsts: DJax + 2016 1st. Hunter isn't fetching a first, and neither is Spiller. Robinson -- I just saw him traded for a late 3rd and a late 4th.

Exactly... d jax a first and a bunch of throw ins. I'd pass easily

[FKC]

You would be getting ok value. You should be able to get something better whether through this offer or a different offer. I wouldn't be selling him unless I was offered something so crazy I couldn't turn it down.

[dskarin]

Definitely not too much and definitely not getting enough talent back...I would not make this move.

[Pork Sword]

I'm shocked to hear any obj owner would take that garbage for him. To me, that looks like selling a dollar for 4 dimes and a quarter. Gross

[MEuRaH]

Honestly, I don't even consider DJax 1st rounder worthy.

To me, you're getting a 1st, 2nd, and a bunch of trash in exchange for OBJ.

I've thrown trades like this at people. Just a bunch of trash and has-been's, in the HOPE that someone would see all quantity and say "WOW! Look at all the players I'd be getting! 5 guys for 1!? EASY ACCEPT!

Don't do it.

[goinyard24]

OBJ and not close at all.

[gagrady]

OBJ, not close. As OBJ owner, at this time I would only consider trading him if it's a package deal and a stud is involved in return.

[maxhyde]

Yeah that is not the kind of deal I would be looking to make dealing OBJ. Either a player upgrade or split him into 2 very good prospects but I would not sell him for that bunch

[Tsunami]

Honestly, I don't even consider DJax 1st rounder worthy.

To me, you're getting a 1st, 2nd, and a bunch of trash in exchange for OBJ.

I've thrown trades like this at people. Just a bunch of trash and has-been's, in the HOPE that someone would see all quantity and say "WOW! Look at all the players I'd be getting! 5 guys for 1!? EASY ACCEPT!

Don't do it.

Wow you're telling me you wouldn't give up a first for DeSean Jackson? You and I rate him very differently. This is not about quantity vs quality, I don't see any of these guys as trash or has-beens. I see them as undervalued or breakout candidates. Their value is likely to go up soon, and OBJ's isn't. If that happens I come out ahead.

I've done offers like this before that turned out well, though people here seem to think you can only trade studs for studs. I don't really see why, I'm a buy-low-sell-high kind of person. If I can turn one prospect into five and I'm 25% successful then my team only grows. It isn't necessarily even these guys I'm into, I could trade Spiller for Knile Davis or Hunter for Blackmon maybe. It's about selling high.

The studs don't stay studs, their value generally declines (especially the studs with an 11 game track record). The prospects don't stay prospects, some of them become studs and some become busts. Don't think of it as giving up a stud for trash, think of it as trading a current stud for a future stud. This game is full of possibilities, people here are too limited in their thinking.

PS the other owner didn't like the offer. There is a real disconnect between my leagues and the advice given on this site. I think most of you are way too top-heavy in your valuations.

[sugbear65]

Honestly, I don't even consider DJax 1st rounder worthy.

To me, you're getting a 1st, 2nd, and a bunch of trash in exchange for OBJ.

I've thrown trades like this at people. Just a bunch of trash and has-been's, in the HOPE that someone would see all quantity and say "WOW! Look at all the players I'd be getting! 5 guys for 1!? EASY ACCEPT!

Don't do it.

Wow you're telling me you wouldn't give up a first for DeSean Jackson? You and I rate him very differently. This is not about quantity vs quality, I don't see any of these guys as trash or has-beens. I see them as undervalued or breakout candidates. Their value is likely to go up soon, and OBJ's isn't. If that happens I come out ahead.

I've done offers like this before that turned out well, though people here seem to think you can only trade studs for studs. I don't really see why, I'm a buy-low-sell-high kind of person. If I can turn one prospect into five and I'm 25% successful then my team only grows. It isn't necessarily even these guys I'm into, I could trade Spiller for Knile Davis or Hunter for Blackmon maybe. It's about selling high.

The studs don't stay studs, their value generally declines (especially the studs with an 11 game track record). The prospects don't stay prospects, some of them become studs and some become busts. Don't think of it as giving up a stud for trash, think of it as trading a current stud for a future stud. This game is full of possibilities, people here are too limited in their thinking.

PS the other owner didn't like the offer. There is a real disconnect between my leagues and the advice given on this site. I think most of you are way too top-heavy in your valuations.

I don't think the disconnect is really with the strategy you are using. Nothing wrong with sell high, and OBJ is the obvious candidate this offseason for most. I think the problem is in the guys you are getting back. Now I won't question anyone's values, and if you like the guys that's fine. But players like Hunter, Spiller, Robinson, and DJax just aren't premium players, and OBJ can command a package involving at least one premium player. You equate it to OBJ for 5 1sts. But I don't know if you will find anyone that agrees that package is worth 5 1sts, more like 3 max. So I think what people are saying is you are selling too cheap, not questioning your trade philosophy.

[auggiedoggies]

Honestly, I don't even consider DJax 1st rounder worthy.

To me, you're getting a 1st, 2nd, and a bunch of trash in exchange for OBJ.

I've thrown trades like this at people. Just a bunch of trash and has-been's, in the HOPE that someone would see all quantity and say "WOW! Look at all the players I'd be getting! 5 guys for 1!? EASY ACCEPT!

Don't do it.

Wow you're telling me you wouldn't give up a first for DeSean Jackson? You and I rate him very differently. This is not about quantity vs quality, I don't see any of these guys as trash or has-beens. I see them as undervalued or breakout candidates. Their value is likely to go up soon, and OBJ's isn't. If that happens I come out ahead.

I've done offers like this before that turned out well, though people here seem to think you can only trade studs for studs. I don't really see why, I'm a buy-low-sell-high kind of person. If I can turn one prospect into five and I'm 25% successful then my team only grows. It isn't necessarily even these guys I'm into, I could trade Spiller for Knile Davis or Hunter for Blackmon maybe. It's about selling high.

The studs don't stay studs, their value generally declines (especially the studs with an 11 game track record). The prospects don't stay prospects, some of them become studs and some become busts. Don't think of it as giving up a stud for trash, think of it as trading a current stud for a future stud. This game is full of possibilities, people here are too limited in their thinking.

PS the other owner didn't like the offer. There is a real disconnect between my leagues and the advice given on this site. I think most of you are way too top-heavy in your valuations.

I mean, if you really feel that bad about the site, no need to come here and ask for opinions I guess.....

It's all about value. Would I give a 1st for DJax? Yeah, probably a mid to late first. Would I give a first for any of the other guys in that deal? Or Knile Davis? Or Blackmon? Not a chance

[Tsunami]

Wow you're telling me you wouldn't give up a first for DeSean Jackson? You and I rate him very differently. This is not about quantity vs quality, I don't see any of these guys as trash or has-beens. I see them as undervalued or breakout candidates. Their value is likely to go up soon, and OBJ's isn't. If that happens I come out ahead.

I've done offers like this before that turned out well, though people here seem to think you can only trade studs for studs. I don't really see why, I'm a buy-low-sell-high kind of person. If I can turn one prospect into five and I'm 25% successful then my team only grows. It isn't necessarily even these guys I'm into, I could trade Spiller for Knile Davis or Hunter for Blackmon maybe. It's about selling high.

The studs don't stay studs, their value generally declines (especially the studs with an 11 game track record). The prospects don't stay prospects, some of them become studs and some become busts. Don't think of it as giving up a stud for trash, think of it as trading a current stud for a future stud. This game is full of possibilities, people here are too limited in their thinking.

PS the other owner didn't like the offer. There is a real disconnect between my leagues and the advice given on this site. I think most of you are way too top-heavy in your valuations.

I mean, if you really feel that bad about the site, no need to come here and ask for opinions I guess.....

It's all about value. Would I give a 1st for DJax? Yeah, probably a mid to late first. Would I give a first for any of the other guys in that deal? Or Knile Davis? Or Blackmon? Not a chance

The site is great, the advice is not always so great. I come here to improve it.

It's ironic for you of all people to give me this advice considering how bad it was the last time you gave it to me in the thread I linked from 2 years ago:

Postby auggiedoggies » Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:33 am

I'm assuming you're the one who gave up T Rich....sorry buddy, you got robbed.