1st overall pick in startup dynasty trade value.

[lilpuppy99]

I am wondering what is good trade value for the 1st overall pick? Should I deal it or just draft Calvin or Charles? How far back would you be willing to drop? I'm thinking no further than 6th or 7th. What should I expect to land in return?

[shawnesty23]

Well if u want Charles def trade back

[dynastysports]

Well if u want Charles def trade back

I agree regardless of format Charles shouldn't be the first pick in dynasty. For me I wouldn't want to move back past 4 or 5. I like Charles and Jimmy but I would rather have one of the elite WR's in Calvin AJG Julio Dez and DT.

[ramsey8582]

I prefer McCoy to charles but I would go AJG, Calvin, Dez, Julio, DT all before both of them.

[dynastysports]

Realized I didn't answer the question though and wanted to add that I like Shady above JC as well good point ramsey 8582. But in my mind I don't think getting a 3rd or 4th this year and or a future first. But you also have to realize that most guys in the top five are not going to pay much to move up when they will still get one of the elites. In my most recent start up I was at 5 and really wouldn't move up unless it was practically free cause I know I can keep my picks and I still ended up with Julio.

[AZLions]

I traded for the 1st overall pick in my start up and the trade was:

His: Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2014 Draft Pick 4.32;Year 2014 Draft Pick 10.32
My: Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.26;Year 2014 Draft Pick 3.07;Year 2014 Draft Pick 4.26

I think I got a steal for it. I took McCoy with it as well and still had my other 1st round pick which was 7th and took Megatron. Hope this helps.

[lilpuppy99]

Wow...all good points guys. I forgot to mention its 1.5 TE PPR, so graham will go top 5.

I think the furtherest I'd be willing to drop is 1.08, but the guy at 1.11 wants to move up.

What should I ask for or expect to drop from 1.1 to 1.8 or 1.11?

[AZLions]

I would ask for their 2nd or 3rd to go with you moving back to their 1st round spot.

[dynastysports]

11th may not be bad Alshon is probably going to be available there. For me I wold think of it like this: it would be like trading Calvin (insert your number 1 here Calvin is mine) for the likely ADP of the picks you would want and then ask yourself if you would be willing to trade your number one for those players. If it was the his first second and fourth then it's likely Alshon Jordy Nelson and maybe like Andre Ellington. (ADP may be a little off). But yes if I was you I would do that by a lot. But I am not sure you get that much. You might have to settle for a first second and a 2015 pick which would still be pretty good value IMO.

[Chris in Chuck]

If I were dropping 10 places in the first round I would want #35 for my #121.
-OR-
His #14 round pick for my #49.

Those would give you 11, 24, 25 and 35 (losing #121)
-OR-
11, 14, 24 and 25 (losing #49).

You should be able to employ any strategy you like from those positions but the first option will leave you a little more top heavy.
And those are my minimum prices.

[sloth8u]

i would just take aj green and not worry about anything for the next 10 years. if your the type of owner who likes to make alot of trades though, go ahead and drop down to 5...take graham or your rb and start dealing throughout your draft.

like was mentioned above, the high picks arent going to give much. they will still be able to land a stud. the later 1st arent going to carry the value that a top 5 will.

something i did from 1.1 last year was take calvin at 1. made it down to mid to late 1st and traded the approx. 1.8 and a future 1st for calvin. took dez at 1.8...got down to the 2.3 range and swapped dez for marshall and a 1st. got down to my 2.12 (24 overall) and moved back a few spots for a 1st and then drafted my spot pretty much all the way through with an eye towards youth. i did make some other trades along the way gaining and giving a few spots here and there for guys that i wanted, but in the long run had gained 3 extra 1st's for this year while still getting marshall, arod and fitz to start my team. drafted gordon, hopkins, and patterson along the way to replace those 2. i came in to this offseason with 4 1st which essentially noone would give to go from marshall to calvin imo.

if this is something that you would like to do...you need to be well aware of adp, and tier the guys you want, so you dont get out of the range of landing them when you make the trades. you also need to know the adp in rds 7-12 so you know who you will likely be able to get there so you can move around to land them.

[lilpuppy99]

If I were dropping 10 places in the first round I would want #35 for my #121.
-OR-
His #14 round pick for my #49.

Those would give you 11, 24, 25 and 35 (losing #121)
-OR-
11, 14, 24 and 25 (losing #49).

You should be able to employ any strategy you like from those positions but the first option will leave you a little more top heavy.
And those are my minimum prices.

Thank you, this is definitely what I was looking for. I have a hard time evaluating pick value.

[lilpuppy99]

i would just take aj green and not worry about anything for the next 10 years. if your the type of owner who likes to make alot of trades though, go ahead and drop down to 5...take graham or your rb and start dealing throughout your draft.

like was mentioned above, the high picks arent going to give much. they will still be able to land a stud. the later 1st arent going to carry the value that a top 5 will.

something i did from 1.1 last year was take calvin at 1. made it down to mid to late 1st and traded the approx. 1.8 and a future 1st for calvin. took dez at 1.8...got down to the 2.3 range and swapped dez for marshall and a 1st. got down to my 2.12 (24 overall) and moved back a few spots for a 1st and then drafted my spot pretty much all the way through with an eye towards youth. i did make some other trades along the way gaining and giving a few spots here and there for guys that i wanted, but in the long run had gained 3 extra 1st's for this year while still getting marshall, arod and fitz to start my team. drafted gordon, hopkins, and patterson along the way to replace those 2. i came in to this offseason with 4 1st which essentially noone would give to go from marshall to calvin imo.

if this is something that you would like to do...you need to be well aware of adp, and tier the guys you want, so you dont get out of the range of landing them when you make the trades. you also need to know the adp in rds 7-12 so you know who you will likely be able to get there so you can move around to land them.

Thank you. This definitely worked out for you. Seems like a good plan. I normally suck at making trades, I almost need to hire someone just to negotiate for me.

[hankscorpio]

One good strategy is to use auction values to approximate pick values, since they don't drop linearly like simply calculating the number of picks you're moving up or back.

[lilpuppy99]

One good strategy is to use auction values to approximate pick values, since they don't drop linearly like simply calculating the number of picks you're moving up or back.

What do you mean by this? Could u give me an example, I've never done an auction draft.