Just received this offer for Gordon

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Just received this offer for Gordon

Postby jojo5151 » Wed May 14, 2014 4:47 pm

In a 12 team no-ppr -

MY Roster -
Foles/Romo- QB
D. Martin, Gerhart, Fjax, D.Brown, Sproles, M. James , Todman -RB
Gordon, D. Thomas, Harvin, Jernigan , Wheaton, Da'Rick- WR
Reed, J. Thomas - TE
1.3, 3.2,3.6,5.2, 6.2

I would receive -
Murray, DeMarco DAL RB
Blackmon, Justin JAC WR
Nicks, Hakeem IND WR

I would give -
Gerhart, Toby JAC RB
Gordon, Josh CLE WR
Harvin, Percy SEA WR
Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.03

First off it's a lopsided trade in his favor. The only player I would really want is Murray since I'm in dire need of another RB. With Gordon gone now My WR corps is depleted. Not sure if getting Hicks is enough . He also has Jordy Nelson & Cobb. Thinking of countering his offer with Gordon & Gerhart for Murray & Nicks leaving out Harvin & my draft pick altogether.
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QB - Watson, Herbert, G
RB - Kamara, Jacobs, L. Murray, Mattison, J. Wislon,
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Re: Just received this offer for Gordon

Postby Chandler Bing » Wed May 14, 2014 4:56 pm

No way

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Re: Just received this offer for Gordon

Postby jojo5151 » Wed May 14, 2014 4:58 pm

I realize it's a bad offer but amongst those players included in the trade what do you think I should counter with?
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1QB, 1-2RB, 3-4 WR 1 K 1 D
QB - Watson, Herbert, G
RB - Kamara, Jacobs, L. Murray, Mattison, J. Wislon,
WR - M. Thomas, Thielen, Godwin, Julio,T. Johnson, Coutee P. Williams , Zaccheaus
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Re: Just received this offer for Gordon

Postby the_future » Wed May 14, 2014 5:03 pm

Toby/Gordon/1.03 for Murray and Cobb.

You would be getting the best two players out of the deal and looks like he is getting a lot more than he actually is.

You get a young stud WR and young great RB 2.

He gets a lottery pick in the 1.03 (Sankey/Beckman/Cooks are far from a sure thing)
A pot head in Gordon who has a very clouded future
Toby who is a 1-2 year bandaid before becoming a full-time back up. He won't produce much this year anyway as they will be behind every game and he isn't much of a pass catcher.

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Re: Just received this offer for Gordon

Postby fishdog109 » Wed May 14, 2014 8:14 pm

I would wait for the Gordon suspension. People want to pay as if he is suspended for the entire year but there is no guarantee that is what will happen. I would go with patience here.
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WR: Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Julio, Evans, Thielen, Watkins, Moncrief, Taywan, Dede
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Re: Just received this offer for Gordon

Postby DonBrazi » Thu May 15, 2014 1:42 am

fishdog109 wrote:I would wait for the Gordon suspension. People want to pay as if he is suspended for the entire year but there is no guarantee that is what will happen. I would go with patience here.
That's one option. But the reverse of that is that a lot of people are valuing him as if he will get closer to 8 games and then they want to factor in all this talk about redoing the drug policy.. if he gets hit with a year, it might sink his value.

I think it's a huge question mark. This isn't like an injury where the guy will definitely gain value. Things could get worse. Or they could get better. Not making a move is making a decision. It's saying that his value will go up. Were I a Gordon owner, I'd rather consciously make/decision a move based on what I thought than letting any potential move/decision be dictated to me.

That being my view, I'd value Gordon around the Jordy, Cobb, Watkins tier and not take that deal.
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Re: Just received this offer for Gordon

Postby jojo5151 » Sun May 18, 2014 1:55 pm

Just received this offer . I give Gordon , Gerhart, & my 1.3.

I receive Spiller, Desean Jackson & his 6.3. I really need an RB but don't trust spiller enough . If he would give Demarco I would push play immediately .
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1QB, 1-2RB, 3-4 WR 1 K 1 D
QB - Watson, Herbert, G
RB - Kamara, Jacobs, L. Murray, Mattison, J. Wislon,
WR - M. Thomas, Thielen, Godwin, Julio,T. Johnson, Coutee P. Williams , Zaccheaus
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Re: Just received this offer for Gordon

Postby lilpuppy99 » Sun May 18, 2014 2:38 pm

Demarco is a free agent next season along with Dez I believe. Its gonna be hard for Dallas to keep both.

Seems like your panicking to deal Gordon and including your best assets like 1.03 with him. Its pretty ridiculous.
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RB: Zeke Elliott, David Johnson, Alvin Kamara, Nick Chubb, Damien Harris, A Mattison, Darwin Thompson
WR: AJ Brown, C Godwin, T Lockett, J Washington, DJ Chark, Antonio Brown, B Perriman
TE: Zach Ertz, D Goedert, Will Dissly
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RB: Kareem Hunt, Derrick Henry, Kerryon Johnson, Adrian Peterson, C Hyde
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TE: Zach Ertz, Irv Smith Jr, Will Dissly
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Re: Just received this offer for Gordon

Postby jojo5151 » Sun May 18, 2014 3:05 pm

lilpuppy99 wrote:Demarco is a free agent next season along with Dez I believe. Its gonna be hard for Dallas to keep both.

Seems like your panicking to deal Gordon and including your best assets like 1.03 with him. Its pretty ridiculous.

Panicking or trying to get something for him while i still can? Have you read the other threads? People are getting a bag of balls & a draft pick for him right now so if I can grab a top tier RB (which I really need) and a good WR in Jackson I should jump on it. The 1.3 pick would probably net any rookie RB I would want but no one in this draft class is that impressive so why wouldn't I try to get a guaranteed talent like Demarco if I can?
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12 Team Non-PPR
1QB, 1-2RB, 3-4 WR 1 K 1 D
QB - Watson, Herbert, G
RB - Kamara, Jacobs, L. Murray, Mattison, J. Wislon,
WR - M. Thomas, Thielen, Godwin, Julio,T. Johnson, Coutee P. Williams , Zaccheaus
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Re: Just received this offer for Gordon

Postby ff_wmd » Sun May 18, 2014 3:21 pm

jojo5151 wrote:Just received this offer . I give Gordon , Gerhart, & my 1.3.

I receive Spiller, Desean Jackson & his 6.3. I really need an RB but don't trust spiller enough . If he would give Demarco I would push play immediately .

I agree with others who think giving away Gordon AND your 1.03 should be avoided at all costs (fwiw I think Gordon gets 8 games). On the other hand you have a team built for now and need to do something. I like this offer a lot better than the 1st and I would work to see if you can improve on it a little.


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