Garcon or Hopkins

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Garcon or Hopkins

Postby Psycho Spiller » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:47 pm

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Would you rather own Pierre Garcon or DeAndre Hopkins?
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RB: L. McCoy, B. Pierce, D. Williams, M. Leshoure, B. Rainey, K. Williams, C. Wood, C. Polk, D. Young
WR: G. Jennings, J. Edleman, J. Jones, B. Hartline, A. Hawkins, J. Kerley, D. Avery, M. Manningham, J. Morgan
TE: J. Graham, B. Myers
PK: A. Vinitieri, M. Nugent
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby Swids19 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:51 pm

I like Hopkins myself. I think he has tremendous upside & a great mentor in Andre Johnson. Garcon is too injury prone for my liking. Maybe it's a personal taste why I like Hopkins over Garcon.
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby Space Cowboy » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:52 pm

Hopkins for me. I like garçon as a sell high along with Gronk, Julio, lynch, Charles, k wright and a brown.

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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby Big Al » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:01 pm

Another vote for Nuk!
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby Team Tacos » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:12 pm

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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby growskey23 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:13 pm

Hopkins! I like his talent more and I believe that he shows flashes this year that he is the heir to Andre Johnson's WR1 throne.

I also like Garcon. So its pretty close for me. I think he'll have another solid year in Jay Gruden's pass happy offense. But that's if he stays healthy. I think we'll see a lot of the same that we've already seen from him (which isn't a bad thing, just not a ton more potential growth).

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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby sloth8u » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:20 pm

Space Cowboy wrote:Hopkins for me. I like garçon as a sell high along with Gronk, Julio, lynch, Charles, k wright and a brown.
i prefer hopkins aswell.

im not sure how you can consider the majority of these guys as sell high guys. i guess charles, but the others are valued to the masses just how they should be or undervalued do to injuries or age...not really a sell high opportunity.

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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby 1standgoal » Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:19 pm

Julio a sell high. HaHaHaHa that's rich.

I prefer Hopkins. I sought him out as soon as trading opened up. This is the best time to get him.
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby cuztank » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:34 pm

^was just thinking that. Everyone does seem to be pretty bloody high on Julio though...

Garcon for me, he's a beast.
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby lilpuppy99 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:36 pm

Julio is a beast, but hasn't he broke the same foot twice and plays on turf?
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RB: Zeke Elliott, David Johnson, Alvin Kamara, Nick Chubb, Damien Harris, A Mattison, Darwin Thompson
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby 1standgoal » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:47 pm

lilpuppy99 wrote:Julio is a beast, but hasn't he broke the same foot twice and plays on turf?
Yes, but the 2nd time it was a broken screw. It seems very fluky and I doubt it happens again.
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby jamesorr1 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:41 pm

Nuk. Never liked garcon too much. Streaky.
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby sugbear65 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:43 am

Space Cowboy wrote:Hopkins for me. I like garçon as a sell high along with Gronk, Julio, lynch, Charles, k wright and a brown.
Sell high means to sell a guy when his value is at it's max and couldn't go any higher, not smoke a doobie and trade a guy away. That may be a list of guys you would recommend selling, which is perfectly understandable. But I really don't think you'd be selling high when moving most of those guys.

Another vote for Nuk as well

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Re: Garcon or Hopkins

Postby Gametime675 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:40 am

I think that Garcon is one of the most undervalued WRs right now but I'd still lean towards Hopkins. Nuk's hands are elite and his route running was the best in last year's class. He doesn't wow you with his speed but can creat good separation and has that "my ball" mentality I love to see in receivers. I think the comparison to Roddy White is dead on, or maybe a slightly more explosive less powerful Boldin. Honestly, I don't understand the mentality that WR1s need to be 6'3"+ with speed and agility off the charts - no doubt Nuk can have some WR1 seasons.


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