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Trade advice

Postby lilpuppy99 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:07 am

So I'm looking to get a bit younger to prep for the future, but I want to be competitive at the same time this season. An owner approached us looking to trade for 2015 draft picks and he also likes Reggie Bush and Antonio Brown. If I were to trade him either, what would be a fair offer to make? This is my first year in dynasty so not really sure about player values. I'm starting to realize young guys demand much more...thus I'm not sure if I should trade Antonio, but it could be a time to sell high.

His players I like are:

Luck

Pierce
D. Wilson
Lattimore

Fitzgerald
Torrey
Randle

Eifert

What would be fair or even better deal for me?
TEAM 1. 12 team PPR/1.5 TE PPR- 20 man roster, 3 IR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, Def, K

QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Zeke Elliott, David Johnson, Alvin Kamara, Nick Chubb, Damien Harris, A Mattison, Darwin Thompson
WR: AJ Brown, C Godwin, T Lockett, J Washington, DJ Chark, Antonio Brown, B Perriman
TE: Zach Ertz, D Goedert, Will Dissly
K: Steven Gostkowski
D/ST: Rams Defense

2020 picks 1.10, 2.10, 4.10, 5.10, 6.10, 7. 10

TEAM 2

12 team PPR/1.5 TE PPR- 20 man roster, 3 IR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, Def, K

QB: Baker Mayfield, Mitchell Trubisky
RB: Kareem Hunt, Derrick Henry, Kerryon Johnson, Adrian Peterson, C Hyde
WR: Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Allen Robinson, D Parker, AJ Brown, DJ Chark, J Ross, D Funchess
TE: Zach Ertz, Irv Smith Jr, Will Dissly
K: Stephen Gostkowski
D/ST: Broncos Defense

2020 picks 1.02, 2.01, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02, 5.02, 6.02, 7.02

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Re: Trade advice

Postby jason401 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:03 pm

Trading A. Brown would be the last thing I'd do with this team. Hate to say it, but I don't think this team is a contender at this time. You'd need major comebacks from Foster, Rice, and Maclin for this team to even make the playoffs.

If this were my team, I'd start a full rebuild this season. I'd keep Brown and Ertz and build around them, trading away most others. Sucks you don't have a 1st or 2nd round pick this year though.

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Re: Trade advice

Postby lilpuppy99 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:23 pm

Am I really that far off? My team was the #1 seed last year....with no production from Rice, Foster and Bowe. Both Rice and Bowe have upped their offseason workouts, shed the weight and gotten into better playing shape.
TEAM 1. 12 team PPR/1.5 TE PPR- 20 man roster, 3 IR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, Def, K

QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Zeke Elliott, David Johnson, Alvin Kamara, Nick Chubb, Damien Harris, A Mattison, Darwin Thompson
WR: AJ Brown, C Godwin, T Lockett, J Washington, DJ Chark, Antonio Brown, B Perriman
TE: Zach Ertz, D Goedert, Will Dissly
K: Steven Gostkowski
D/ST: Rams Defense

2020 picks 1.10, 2.10, 4.10, 5.10, 6.10, 7. 10

TEAM 2

12 team PPR/1.5 TE PPR- 20 man roster, 3 IR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, Def, K

QB: Baker Mayfield, Mitchell Trubisky
RB: Kareem Hunt, Derrick Henry, Kerryon Johnson, Adrian Peterson, C Hyde
WR: Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Allen Robinson, D Parker, AJ Brown, DJ Chark, J Ross, D Funchess
TE: Zach Ertz, Irv Smith Jr, Will Dissly
K: Stephen Gostkowski
D/ST: Broncos Defense

2020 picks 1.02, 2.01, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02, 5.02, 6.02, 7.02

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Re: Trade advice

Postby Andrew74 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:52 pm

I think I agree with Jason401. Color me surprised you were the #1 team with that roster last year. Without any top 2 round picks, I am not sure how you add youth without trading some of your older vets (e.g., Foster, Rice) for upside or picks in '14/'15.
12 Team, 0.5PPR, 22 roster spots (4 IR), Start 1/2/3/1

QB: Drew Brees, Matt Ryan
RB: Jamaal Charles, Alfred Morris, Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon, Ameer Abdullah, Doug Martin, Isaiah Crowell, Matt Jones, Tre Mason, Branden Oliver, Lache Seastrunk
WR: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Demaryius Thomas, Antonio Brown, Odell Bechham, Larry Fitzgerald, Breshad Perriman, Steadman Bailey, Nick Toon, Corey Washington
TE: Jimmy Graham, Jordan Reed
K: <empty>
DEF: <empty>

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Re: Trade advice

Postby slodan » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:59 pm

Yes, you are that far off. We have Bowe shouldn't be in your starting lineup, much less your #2. (And I say that as a Bowe owner.)

Convert Brees into a QB on with growth potential. I would target Luck, Newton and Ryan in that order. Hopefully you don't have to add anything, but a savvy owner realizes that Brees is less valuable than them.

Package players like Bush, Foster, Rice, Bowe and Maclin for younger breakout-potential players and picks. Hopkins, Patterson, Gio are high-end players, but you should be able to fairly easily get players like Justin Hunter and Knile Davis along with them. Fill your empty slots with flyers like the new RBs for the Panthers and Raiders.
12 team PPR 12pt TDs --- 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 FLEX, 1 TE, 11 bench (240 rostered)
* Romo, Roethlisberger
* LeSean McCoy, Doug Martin, Robert Turbin, Khiry Robinson
* AJ Green, Dez Bryant, Julian Edelman, Martavis Bryant, Michael Floyd, Marquise Lee, Justin Hunter, Tavon Austin, Jeff Janis, Josh Gordon, Paul Richardson
* Rob Gronkowski, Tim Wright

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Re: Trade advice

Postby lilpuppy99 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:49 am

Thanks for the advice guys. I definitely messed up my first startup. I originally planned to go Gronk and Demaryius with my 12/13 picks and then last minute decided to go two HB's. Picks 36/37 I had planned to grab either newton/Luck and then Gio and those three went right before me. I then ignored the advice of esteemed Ryan McDowell to draft Gordon rd 4 and took Bowe instead, then again rd 5 and took R. Bush, then again rd 6 and took Antonio Brown. All that said, I really haven't done too much right so far in this dynasty. Now I need to try to trade for younger players and trading I feel is my weak point.
TEAM 1. 12 team PPR/1.5 TE PPR- 20 man roster, 3 IR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, Def, K

QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Zeke Elliott, David Johnson, Alvin Kamara, Nick Chubb, Damien Harris, A Mattison, Darwin Thompson
WR: AJ Brown, C Godwin, T Lockett, J Washington, DJ Chark, Antonio Brown, B Perriman
TE: Zach Ertz, D Goedert, Will Dissly
K: Steven Gostkowski
D/ST: Rams Defense

2020 picks 1.10, 2.10, 4.10, 5.10, 6.10, 7. 10

TEAM 2

12 team PPR/1.5 TE PPR- 20 man roster, 3 IR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, Def, K

QB: Baker Mayfield, Mitchell Trubisky
RB: Kareem Hunt, Derrick Henry, Kerryon Johnson, Adrian Peterson, C Hyde
WR: Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Allen Robinson, D Parker, AJ Brown, DJ Chark, J Ross, D Funchess
TE: Zach Ertz, Irv Smith Jr, Will Dissly
K: Stephen Gostkowski
D/ST: Broncos Defense

2020 picks 1.02, 2.01, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02, 5.02, 6.02, 7.02

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Re: Trade advice

Postby clarion contrarion » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:02 am

well if you want to get younger the other posters are spot on....
rice bowe and foster have got to go as well as fitzy . I also would look for any glimmer of hope to flip wilson to some one that believes.
I also messed up my initial draft in dynasty and went about fixing it quick by piling up lots of picks to contenders during the playoff chase . But I would be attempting to get 2014 picks as opposed to 2015 .
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QB luck- driskell
WR ant brown evans c davis golladay godwin gordon j washington doctson watson lazard patrick henderson
RB mixon cohen chubb aaron jones hunt malcolm brown
TE eifert howard njoku
K tucker DEF pittsburgh chicago
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Re: Trade advice

Postby lilpuppy99 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:18 am

clarion contrarion wrote:well if you want to get younger the other posters are spot on....
rice bowe and foster have got to go as well as fitzy . I also would look for any glimmer of hope to flip wilson to some one that believes.
I also messed up my initial draft in dynasty and went about fixing it quick by piling up lots of picks to contenders during the playoff chase . But I would be attempting to get 2014 picks as opposed to 2015 .

I don't have Fitz or D Wilson...I was thinking about trying to trade for them.
TEAM 1. 12 team PPR/1.5 TE PPR- 20 man roster, 3 IR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, Def, K

QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Zeke Elliott, David Johnson, Alvin Kamara, Nick Chubb, Damien Harris, A Mattison, Darwin Thompson
WR: AJ Brown, C Godwin, T Lockett, J Washington, DJ Chark, Antonio Brown, B Perriman
TE: Zach Ertz, D Goedert, Will Dissly
K: Steven Gostkowski
D/ST: Rams Defense

2020 picks 1.10, 2.10, 4.10, 5.10, 6.10, 7. 10

TEAM 2

12 team PPR/1.5 TE PPR- 20 man roster, 3 IR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, Def, K

QB: Baker Mayfield, Mitchell Trubisky
RB: Kareem Hunt, Derrick Henry, Kerryon Johnson, Adrian Peterson, C Hyde
WR: Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Allen Robinson, D Parker, AJ Brown, DJ Chark, J Ross, D Funchess
TE: Zach Ertz, Irv Smith Jr, Will Dissly
K: Stephen Gostkowski
D/ST: Broncos Defense

2020 picks 1.02, 2.01, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02, 5.02, 6.02, 7.02

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Re: Trade advice

Postby clarion contrarion » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:09 am

ah I see I misread the post ... well even though I was half asleep
I am not rebuilding with fitz at this point in his career ... and wilson is not someone I want for any price above a half eaten bag of funyons
.....this has been a public service announcement from forum superstar clarion contrarion
QB luck- driskell
WR ant brown evans c davis golladay godwin gordon j washington doctson watson lazard patrick henderson
RB mixon cohen chubb aaron jones hunt malcolm brown
TE eifert howard njoku
K tucker DEF pittsburgh chicago
2012 , 2014 2015 2016 2017 & 2018 ACDL Champion 5 IN A ROW 6 in 7 years- now that is dynasty!
2013 ACDL runner up
2013 2014 2017 & 2018 (Undefeated 15-0 ) WORILDS OF HURT CHAMPION
2010 2014 & 2015 7 Rings for Steeltown CHAMPION 2011 & 2013 7 rings runner up
2018 Experts Dynasty League Champion
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Re: Trade advice

Postby slodan » Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:32 am

If you can get Wilson for a half-eaten bag of funyons it could be good for you. If he hits, then it is awesome and if he doesn't then you didn't really lose anything.
12 team PPR 12pt TDs --- 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 FLEX, 1 TE, 11 bench (240 rostered)
* Romo, Roethlisberger
* LeSean McCoy, Doug Martin, Robert Turbin, Khiry Robinson
* AJ Green, Dez Bryant, Julian Edelman, Martavis Bryant, Michael Floyd, Marquise Lee, Justin Hunter, Tavon Austin, Jeff Janis, Josh Gordon, Paul Richardson
* Rob Gronkowski, Tim Wright

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Re: Trade advice

Postby lilpuppy99 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:03 am

So basically a 3rd rd pick for Wilson? I don't think he'd take Funyons.
TEAM 1. 12 team PPR/1.5 TE PPR- 20 man roster, 3 IR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, Def, K

QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Zeke Elliott, David Johnson, Alvin Kamara, Nick Chubb, Damien Harris, A Mattison, Darwin Thompson
WR: AJ Brown, C Godwin, T Lockett, J Washington, DJ Chark, Antonio Brown, B Perriman
TE: Zach Ertz, D Goedert, Will Dissly
K: Steven Gostkowski
D/ST: Rams Defense

2020 picks 1.10, 2.10, 4.10, 5.10, 6.10, 7. 10

TEAM 2

12 team PPR/1.5 TE PPR- 20 man roster, 3 IR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, Def, K

QB: Baker Mayfield, Mitchell Trubisky
RB: Kareem Hunt, Derrick Henry, Kerryon Johnson, Adrian Peterson, C Hyde
WR: Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Allen Robinson, D Parker, AJ Brown, DJ Chark, J Ross, D Funchess
TE: Zach Ertz, Irv Smith Jr, Will Dissly
K: Stephen Gostkowski
D/ST: Broncos Defense

2020 picks 1.02, 2.01, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02, 5.02, 6.02, 7.02


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