UPDATED: What to do with 1.2, 1.5, 1.6, 1.11

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UPDATED: What to do with 1.2, 1.5, 1.6, 1.11

Postby joeday » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:26 am

PPR, 12 team, 28 player rosters, 3rd season. I won the championship in 2011, lost in the championship in 2012 and made some moves to get younger.

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QB -- Cam Newton (literally no QB2)
RB -- Ray Rice, Darren Sproles, Bernard Pierce (literally only RBs rosterable...it was patchwork all season with Benson/Turner types)
WR -- Andre Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Demaryius Thomas, Hakeem Nicks, DHixon, JWright, JBaldwin, ARoberts, TStreater
TE -- Jimmy Graham, Coby Fleener
K -- Matt Prater
D/ST -- Seattle Seahawks, Denver Broncos
2013 Picks -- 1.2, 1.5, 1.6, 1.11, 5.4
2014 Picks -- 2, 3, 4, 5

So as you can see I am really top heavy. I made some moves to get two picks in the top 4 to get some young depth. I am thinking at 1 either Lacy or Gio will go, then at 2 I will take whichever is left, then the team at 3 will most likely take Tavon, so I will have to choose between Bell, Ball, Patterson, Hopkins. RB is my unquestioned need so do I take one of these RBs OR take one of these WRs OR trade down to 1.6. If I trade down to 1.6 what kind of compensation for the move? Thanks for your thoughts.

EDIT -- So now I have 4 picks in the first 11. Which direction should I go? I still think I need to go RB at 1.2
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Re: What to do with 1.2 and 1.4?

Postby AU6294TX » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:39 am

Whichever between Bernard or tavon that doesn't go 1.1 and can't believe I am saying this but probably Bell who will be starter day one in Pitt. I like other hbs better but you need some immediate production to put you over the top. Now if others are hb needed at the picks between yours best case scenario would be Bernard at 1.2 and Austin at 1.4 but doubt he is still there.

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Re: What to do with 1.2 and 1.4?

Postby Huddle3233 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:43 am

I think u should target gio, bell & ball for your 2 picks. Don't think I would touch lacy that high. U need rb's more than wr's.

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Re: What to do with 1.2 and 1.4?

Postby joeday » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:47 am

Huddle3233 wrote:I think u should target gio, bell & ball for your 2 picks. Don't think I would touch lacy that high. U need rb's more than wr's.
Lacy isn't worth pick 4?
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Re: What to do with 1.2 and 1.4?

Postby doktor » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:24 am

joeday wrote:
Huddle3233 wrote:I think u should target gio, bell & ball for your 2 picks. Don't think I would touch lacy that high. U need rb's more than wr's.
Lacy isn't worth pick 4?
I would say no, with Franklin in the mix now.

Franklin is either very good Lacy-insurance or else part 2 of a committee. I wouldn't risk it with 1.04. I think there are better situations (DEN, PIT, CIN, STL)...

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Re: What to do with 1.2 and 1.4?

Postby doktor » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:26 am

doktor wrote:
joeday wrote:
Huddle3233 wrote:I think u should target gio, bell & ball for your 2 picks. Don't think I would touch lacy that high. U need rb's more than wr's.
Lacy isn't worth pick 4?
I would say no, with Franklin in the mix now.

Franklin is either very good Lacy-insurance or else part 2 of a committee. I wouldn't risk it with 1.04. I think there are better situations (DEN, PIT, CIN, STL)...
And to append;

In this class there is no obviously superior talent that would make me draft a poor situation. In this year I'd look for situation (among the consensus "top tier" RBs anyways...).

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Re: What to do with 1.2 and 1.4?

Postby joeday » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:39 am

Anyone else?
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Re: What to do with 1.2 and 1.4?

Postby TommyL31 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:59 am

I would take Gio or Austin at 1.2 because those are just the best players to me. After that it gets muddy so if you wanted to take Lacy or Ball at 1.5 I think that would be fine.

If you get Gio though you might either pick Hopkins at 1.4 or trade back to the 1.7 or so and take Lattimore. He could be a better long term option than the others and if you have Bernard, Rice, and Sproles you could afford to wait him out for a year.
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Re: What to do with 1.2 and 1.4?

Postby voiceofunreason » Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:09 pm

Despite need, I'd still look at Austin at 1.02 if he is there. He has a lot of potential and I just don't love any of the rbs. You can always trade for a rb if you need to later. Personally I'd be looking at some guys like Ballard, Ingram (gasp) and see if I could get a cheap rb2 right now.

If you don't like Austin, I'm 100% going Lacy or Bernard or trading down. Seems I'm in the minority but I never liked Franklin and I'm not worried about a CoP guy with average skills. There's competition on every team and the Packers have never thrown to their backs a ton, that's part of Cobb's job anyway. I'd lean towards Lacy but it's close obviously. Aside from injuries (which is a concern with any rb) you are guaranteed to get the lions share of the work in GB including GL. I'd take Lacy because I'm pretty sure he'll be good (not great). All the other rbs have a high bust factor to them.

For the second pick it really gets tough and it's all personal preference to me. Right now I'd lean towards Ball at rb (I don't see any real competition and it's a great landing spot) or I'd lean towards Patterson at wr. Classic talent and upside versus situation.

I have the 1.02, 1.04 and 1.07 in a league and I've been trying to figure which way to go. Looks like a tough call this year and no easy answers. One thing I've soured on is trading down and picking up an early 2nd. For all the talk about a deep draft I don't see much I'm loving after the first round, looks like the typical lottery types that are more likely to waste 3 years of roster space.

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Re: What to do with 1.2 and 1.4?

Postby doktor » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:35 pm

voiceofunreason wrote:One thing I've soured on is trading down and picking up an early 2nd. For all the talk about a deep draft I don't see much I'm loving after the first round, looks like the typical lottery types that are more likely to waste 3 years of roster space.
Have you considered (or tried) trading up or flat out selling the picks? Might be able to package a couple picks and a guy to get even a very slight upgrade to the guy from the right owner...

I agree that this is not the best draft to trade down unless there's a late round sleeper you're particularly fond of. But there are usually owners who see some gems and this year seems like a good opportunity to pull a couple minor position upgrades with the picks. Package a Ballard and a couple picks for a Murray, or something along those lines...?

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Re: What to do with 1.2 and 1.4?

Postby joeday » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:38 pm

doktor wrote:
voiceofunreason wrote:One thing I've soured on is trading down and picking up an early 2nd. For all the talk about a deep draft I don't see much I'm loving after the first round, looks like the typical lottery types that are more likely to waste 3 years of roster space.
Have you considered (or tried) trading up or flat out selling the picks? Might be able to package a couple picks and a guy to get even a very slight upgrade to the guy from the right owner...

I agree that this is not the best draft to trade down unless there's a late round sleeper you're particularly fond of. But there are usually owners who see some gems and this year seems like a good opportunity to pull a couple minor position upgrades with the picks. Package a Ballard and a couple picks for a Murray, or something along those lines...?
I made this deal:

Gave -- 1.4 (4), 2.4 (16), 3.6 (30)
Got -- 1.6 (6), 1.11 (11), 2.11 (23)

Since I think there is a clear top 7 I figured I'd move back to pick up value
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Re: What to do with 1.2 and 1.4?

Postby doktor » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:07 pm

joeday wrote:I made this deal:

Gave -- 1.4 (4), 2.4 (16), 3.6 (30)
Got -- 1.6 (6), 1.11 (11), 2.11 (23)

Since I think there is a clear top 7 I figured I'd move back to pick up value
I think this is a decent move for you. Agreed that the 1.06 could offer as much possibility as the 1.01 this year.

Part of the trouble is that you could very well grab guys at 1.01, 1.02, and 1.03 and not hit as well as someone with the 3.01, 3.02, and 3.03 this year. Not one single player is so talented as to stand out; and some of the rooks who do have a little more talent got hit with bad situations. This whole year I'm sure will produce some decent fantasy plays; but to be honest, I'm barely spending any time or stress trying to figure it out. I may very well grab BPA/ADP on my picks and leave it at that. And that's only if I can't package the picks to upgrade to a known player ahead of time.

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Re: What to do with 1.2 and 1.4?

Postby voiceofunreason » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:35 pm

doktor wrote:
voiceofunreason wrote:One thing I've soured on is trading down and picking up an early 2nd. For all the talk about a deep draft I don't see much I'm loving after the first round, looks like the typical lottery types that are more likely to waste 3 years of roster space.
Have you considered (or tried) trading up or flat out selling the picks? Might be able to package a couple picks and a guy to get even a very slight upgrade to the guy from the right owner...

I agree that this is not the best draft to trade down unless there's a late round sleeper you're particularly fond of. But there are usually owners who see some gems and this year seems like a good opportunity to pull a couple minor position upgrades with the picks. Package a Ballard and a couple picks for a Murray, or something along those lines...?
My draft starts Friday so I'll see if anyone is interested closer to the draft. I've been letting the dust settle and go from there. Hopefully some excitement builds for guys like Ball in the next couple of days. Also I mainly need wrs and I figure I can grab a couple if nothing else works out.

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Re: UPDATED: What to do with 1.2, 1.5, 1.6, 1.11

Postby all day » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:43 pm

Package them and go for a starting running back. Sproles is a good flex but you are a good RB2 from being really good. Maybe put a couple of them together and target like Spiller or Wilson or something.


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