Trade nicks?
- dickiethon
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Trade nicks?
For 3 firsts in 2015 and one in 2016?
12 team start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE Non-PPR
QB: Brees, dalton, Carr
RB: AP, Rice, sankey, bush, fjax, taliafero, trent, riddick
WR: Dez, wallace, D. Thomas, watkins, A Johnson, vjax
TE: Olsen, fleener, donnell, ebron
QB: Brees, dalton, Carr
RB: AP, Rice, sankey, bush, fjax, taliafero, trent, riddick
WR: Dez, wallace, D. Thomas, watkins, A Johnson, vjax
TE: Olsen, fleener, donnell, ebron
Re: Trade nicks?
Really? 2015 and 2016?
How do you know your league will even be around 4 years from now?
I try not to look more than 2 years in advance.
However, 4 first round picks for 1 player is quite intriguing...
I would still pass.
How do you know your league will even be around 4 years from now?
I try not to look more than 2 years in advance.
However, 4 first round picks for 1 player is quite intriguing...
I would still pass.
- Hawks Nest 12th Man
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Re: Trade nicks?
Looking at your roster and starting requirements is there any way you could trade Nicks & maybe Turner, Bush or Stewart for a top 5 rb you like ?
Foster, Rice & McCoy probably out of the question ..... but maybe ....
Chris Johnson, Ryan Mathews or Trent Richardson ?
Those picks are pretty far out. Three 1st Rd picks in 2013 I would probably make that trade.
Foster, Rice & McCoy probably out of the question ..... but maybe ....
Chris Johnson, Ryan Mathews or Trent Richardson ?
Those picks are pretty far out. Three 1st Rd picks in 2013 I would probably make that trade.
DONKEY PUNCHERS....12 teams start 1qb, 1rb, 2wr, 1flex rb/wr/te, te, k, d/sp, 0.5ppr, all tds 6pts, 0.1pt run/rec yd, .033pt pass yd, .04 return yd all return tds 6pts, 20 player roster, 1 IR Spot, 2pt bonus all tds over 50yds...
QBs Luck, Mayfield
RBs McCaffery, Kerryon, Drake, Breida, Gio
WRs C. Davis, T Boyd, D Hamilton, Kupp, Westbrook, MVS, Callaway
TEs Engram, Graham, Hurst
DEF/SP Bills
K Elliot
QBs Luck, Mayfield
RBs McCaffery, Kerryon, Drake, Breida, Gio
WRs C. Davis, T Boyd, D Hamilton, Kupp, Westbrook, MVS, Callaway
TEs Engram, Graham, Hurst
DEF/SP Bills
K Elliot
Re: Trade nicks?
Do you really want to wait 3-4 years to get any return on a top-20 WR with top-10 potential? I would only make this deal if you know you can quickly flip a couple of those picks for another solid RB! The other owner is trying to capitalize on the broken foot and buy low, VERY low!
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Re: Trade nicks?
Wow!! You view Nicks as a top 20 talent w/ top 10 potential ?Vectorgod wrote:Do you really want to wait 3-4 years to get any return on a top-20 WR with top-10 potential? I would only make this deal if you know you can quickly flip a couple of those picks for another solid RB! The other owner is trying to capitalize on the broken foot and buy low, VERY low!
Just my opinion but I view Nicks as a top 10 w/ top 5 potential.
DONKEY PUNCHERS....12 teams start 1qb, 1rb, 2wr, 1flex rb/wr/te, te, k, d/sp, 0.5ppr, all tds 6pts, 0.1pt run/rec yd, .033pt pass yd, .04 return yd all return tds 6pts, 20 player roster, 1 IR Spot, 2pt bonus all tds over 50yds...
QBs Luck, Mayfield
RBs McCaffery, Kerryon, Drake, Breida, Gio
WRs C. Davis, T Boyd, D Hamilton, Kupp, Westbrook, MVS, Callaway
TEs Engram, Graham, Hurst
DEF/SP Bills
K Elliot
QBs Luck, Mayfield
RBs McCaffery, Kerryon, Drake, Breida, Gio
WRs C. Davis, T Boyd, D Hamilton, Kupp, Westbrook, MVS, Callaway
TEs Engram, Graham, Hurst
DEF/SP Bills
K Elliot
Re: Trade nicks?
Yeah, I'm thinking he'll wind up 10-20 overall for the upcoming season, probably a bit of a slow start coming off the broken foot. He absolutely has the potential to be a top-5 if he can stay healthy, but he seems awfully prone to nagging injuries. Even if my 10-20 estimate is low it is still enough to make this a bad trade, right?
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Re: Trade nicks?
I agree on the nagging injuries & this is a bad trade.Vectorgod wrote:Yeah, I'm thinking he'll wind up 10-20 overall for the upcoming season, probably a bit of a slow start coming off the broken foot. He absolutely has the potential to be a top-5 if he can stay healthy, but he seems awfully prone to nagging injuries. Even if my 10-20 estimate is low it is still enough to make this a bad trade, right?
DONKEY PUNCHERS....12 teams start 1qb, 1rb, 2wr, 1flex rb/wr/te, te, k, d/sp, 0.5ppr, all tds 6pts, 0.1pt run/rec yd, .033pt pass yd, .04 return yd all return tds 6pts, 20 player roster, 1 IR Spot, 2pt bonus all tds over 50yds...
QBs Luck, Mayfield
RBs McCaffery, Kerryon, Drake, Breida, Gio
WRs C. Davis, T Boyd, D Hamilton, Kupp, Westbrook, MVS, Callaway
TEs Engram, Graham, Hurst
DEF/SP Bills
K Elliot
QBs Luck, Mayfield
RBs McCaffery, Kerryon, Drake, Breida, Gio
WRs C. Davis, T Boyd, D Hamilton, Kupp, Westbrook, MVS, Callaway
TEs Engram, Graham, Hurst
DEF/SP Bills
K Elliot
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Re: Trade nicks?
It's like WZA has access to my brain and went thru the same process I did in my head with this post above. All solid points.WZA wrote:Really? 2015 and 2016?
How do you know your league will even be around 4 years from now?
I try not to look more than 2 years in advance.
However, 4 first round picks for 1 player is quite intriguing...
I would still pass.
Re: Trade nicks?
I wouldn't do this deal either for the reasons cited above.hamburglar wrote:It's like WZA has access to my brain and went thru the same process I did in my head with this post above. All solid points.WZA wrote:Really? 2015 and 2016?
How do you know your league will even be around 4 years from now?
I try not to look more than 2 years in advance.
However, 4 first round picks for 1 player is quite intriguing...
I would still pass.
But I will say that the times we've had a deal like this happen in my SC league, the team getting the picks has won out. We had a deal like this go down a few years ago and the picks have become: Demaryius Thomas, Julio Jones and now Doug Martin! Of course what one can surmise from that is the owner who traded away all of his picks has done a nice job of screwing up his team in other ways as well. (Note: I have his 2014 1st. )
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Re: Trade nicks?
I would pass if I were you.
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WR Julio, Fitz, R Cobb, P Harvin, J Blackmon, A Jeffery, M Floyd, TJ Graham
TE A Hernandez, G Olsen
K C Barth
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DL C Jones, D Jordan, M Dareus, S Lotulelei
LB B Wagner, R Allen, P Riley, D Hightower, C Upshaw, K Alonso, M Te'o
Re: Trade nicks?
I actually think this is an INSTANT DECLINE for me. You can't wait that long to get return value for a stud like Nicks. You only sell a guy like that if it helps your team for now, and the future.
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Re: Trade nicks?
I would like to point out that I have for a while felt Nicks is over rated. Dont get me wrong I like him a lot but I think he's over rated in dynasty circles.
Also worthy of note; shouldn't there be a cap on how far out you can deal draft picks mandated by league rules? As is pointed out above who is to say the league will be around in 3 years OR that the owner who dealt away the picks will be around and a member of the league? has he paid ahead three years worth of dues?
Also worthy of note; shouldn't there be a cap on how far out you can deal draft picks mandated by league rules? As is pointed out above who is to say the league will be around in 3 years OR that the owner who dealt away the picks will be around and a member of the league? has he paid ahead three years worth of dues?
Re: Trade nicks?
We have a very strong league and have trades involving picks in 2015. Everything is fair game. We're not worried about anyone bailing, to be honest.
Team 1, 10-team 0.5-PPR
QB (1): Richardson, Watson, Purdy
RB (2-3): Walker, Swift, Dobbins, R. White, Mitchell, Gainwell
WR (3-4): Hill, Godwin, Aiyuk, Flowers, N. Collins, Doubs, M. Wilson, Shakir
TE (1-2): McBride, Goedert, Okonkwo
QB (1): Richardson, Watson, Purdy
RB (2-3): Walker, Swift, Dobbins, R. White, Mitchell, Gainwell
WR (3-4): Hill, Godwin, Aiyuk, Flowers, N. Collins, Doubs, M. Wilson, Shakir
TE (1-2): McBride, Goedert, Okonkwo
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Re: Trade nicks?
If it were 4 1sts in 2013 - a completely different story.
You are fine at WR without Nicks, but that doesn't mean you can afford to give him away. I like the Nicks/Turner for RB help idea from above.
You are fine at WR without Nicks, but that doesn't mean you can afford to give him away. I like the Nicks/Turner for RB help idea from above.
Re: Trade nicks?
You need to try to get a player with those picks, A young WR or something.
Just as an example, I have been involved in a trade like this one. I traded Maclin for Winslow and 7 first round picks (2015-2022). Now I did this because I knew that I wasnt going to compete, and I believe it was a huge asset for the future, trade wise and pick wise. I turned my team around with other trades, and now I actually just traded Daniels and those same 7 first round picks for Welker, as I decided that I can win this year. I guess the advice I am trying to give is that i feel that the person who gets the picks wins in these situations, because you can always use them as trade bait; but, for a top 5 dynasty WR, you need to ask for more than 4 picks, and you should probably ask for a young player now.
Just as an example, I have been involved in a trade like this one. I traded Maclin for Winslow and 7 first round picks (2015-2022). Now I did this because I knew that I wasnt going to compete, and I believe it was a huge asset for the future, trade wise and pick wise. I turned my team around with other trades, and now I actually just traded Daniels and those same 7 first round picks for Welker, as I decided that I can win this year. I guess the advice I am trying to give is that i feel that the person who gets the picks wins in these situations, because you can always use them as trade bait; but, for a top 5 dynasty WR, you need to ask for more than 4 picks, and you should probably ask for a young player now.
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