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J Taylor

Postby Tvols » Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:38 am

with the not so good start to the season , do we still value him as the top Dynasty RB? What would u now value him at?
16 teamer
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP

Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin

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Re: J Taylor

Postby mzkp54 » Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:49 am

Yes. He started similar last year
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
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1.02, 1.11
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Re: J Taylor

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:57 am

I still view him as the top dynasty RB and he has had slow starts before. He is still worth multiple 1sts +.

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Re: J Taylor

Postby hoos89 » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:18 am

You can't just move a guy down in a vacuum...there needs to be someone to move ahead of him. I still don't see who you could put above him.

Realistically I think the result of the first 4 weeks is that JJ is now the clear 1.01 overall in 1QB formats. However, while JT should still be viewed as the RB1, I think the gap between the next tier of RBs and him is not as big as it was in August (although I still think it's fairly substantial).
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: J Taylor

Postby Tvols » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:38 am

Gator Sens wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:57 am I still view him as the top dynasty RB and he has had slow starts before. He is still worth multiple 1sts +.
how many first 2/3/4? I am looking to buy is why i ask.it is for team listed.
16 teamer
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP

Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin

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Re: J Taylor

Postby Space Cowboy » Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:17 am

Easier said than done - but almost always sell high on RBs.

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Re: J Taylor

Postby ESKAY » Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:12 am

Tvols wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:38 am
Gator Sens wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:57 am I still view him as the top dynasty RB and he has had slow starts before. He is still worth multiple 1sts +.
how many first 2/3/4? I am looking to buy is why i ask.it is for team listed.
I was wondering the same. I was going to offer Sutton a mid 2023 first and a mid 2023 second. So that is 2.5 firsts.

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Re: J Taylor

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:10 am

Top tier players should be at *least* 3 firsts (unless one of the firsts is super early, but you coild also normalize that by saying that 1.01 is worth 2 firsts). No chance I'm trading away JT for the equivalent of 2.5 random firsts. Also 1 mid 2nd is worth materially less than half a mid-first (nobody in their right mind would trade e.g. 1.06 for 2.06 and 2.07).
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Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: J Taylor

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:11 am

Tvols wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:38 am
Gator Sens wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:57 am I still view him as the top dynasty RB and he has had slow starts before. He is still worth multiple 1sts +.
how many first 2/3/4? I am looking to buy is why i ask.it is for team listed.
I would think it will take three 1sts or two 1sts + a solid asset.

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Re: J Taylor

Postby Miso_Neil » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:26 am

I just completed a trade for JT. My deal was

Sent 23 top 5 pick, 23 mid 1st, and 23 early 2nd
for
JT, T. Hill, and 23 late 3
Hawaii Menehunes, 10-Team, 0.5 PPR QB/2RB/3WR/2WRT/TE
L. Jackson, D. Carr, B. Mayfield
J. Taylor, D. Achane, R. White, Z. Charbonnet, D. Vaughn, R. Penny, D. McBride, D. Jackson
J. Jefferson, T. Higgins, G. Wilson, T. McLaurin, J. Jeudy, N. Collins, M. Hardman, M. Bryant, J. Metchie
M. Andrews, J. Ferguson

Taxi Squad- E. Ezukanma, D. Thompson-Robinson, S. Toure, D. Washington

2024 - 1.01, 1.10, 2.09, 2.10, 3.02, 3.10, 4.10

Tucson Trash Cans, 12-Team Superflex, 0.5PPR
J. Fields, D. Watson, D. Ridder
J. Gibbs, A. Jones, M. Sanders, Z. Charbonnet, D. Achane
D. Smith, K. Allen, C. Sutton,, A. Thielen, C. Claypool, N. Collins
K. Pitts
J. Myers

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Re: J Taylor

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:27 am

Miso_Neil wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:26 am I just completed a trade for JT. My deal was

Sent 23 top 5 pick, 23 mid 1st, and 23 early 2nd
for
JT, T. Hill, and 23 late 3
Is that Tyreek or Taysom?
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: J Taylor

Postby Miso_Neil » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:29 am

hoos89 wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:27 am
Miso_Neil wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:26 am I just completed a trade for JT. My deal was

Sent 23 top 5 pick, 23 mid 1st, and 23 early 2nd
for
JT, T. Hill, and 23 late 3
Is that Tyreek or Taysom?
Sorry. That could be confusing. haha Taysom. I needed TE help.
Hawaii Menehunes, 10-Team, 0.5 PPR QB/2RB/3WR/2WRT/TE
L. Jackson, D. Carr, B. Mayfield
J. Taylor, D. Achane, R. White, Z. Charbonnet, D. Vaughn, R. Penny, D. McBride, D. Jackson
J. Jefferson, T. Higgins, G. Wilson, T. McLaurin, J. Jeudy, N. Collins, M. Hardman, M. Bryant, J. Metchie
M. Andrews, J. Ferguson

Taxi Squad- E. Ezukanma, D. Thompson-Robinson, S. Toure, D. Washington

2024 - 1.01, 1.10, 2.09, 2.10, 3.02, 3.10, 4.10

Tucson Trash Cans, 12-Team Superflex, 0.5PPR
J. Fields, D. Watson, D. Ridder
J. Gibbs, A. Jones, M. Sanders, Z. Charbonnet, D. Achane
D. Smith, K. Allen, C. Sutton,, A. Thielen, C. Claypool, N. Collins
K. Pitts
J. Myers

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Re: J Taylor

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:34 am

Still a nice buy low for JT in my view (if this is your 1QB league...SF maybe changes that a bit).
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: J Taylor

Postby ESKAY » Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:51 am

hoos89 wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:10 am Top tier players should be at *least* 3 firsts (unless one of the firsts is super early, but you coild also normalize that by saying that 1.01 is worth 2 firsts). No chance I'm trading away JT for the equivalent of 2.5 random firsts. Also 1 mid 2nd is worth materially less than half a mid-first (nobody in their right mind would trade e.g. 1.06 for 2.06 and 2.07).
I totally understand your thinking. It’s just that I have traded 3 firsts for a guy 3 times and regretted it. Once for Trent Richardson once for Doug Martin and once for Mark Ingram. I don’t think I would do it again unless it was for a WR.

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Re: J Taylor

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:51 pm

ESKAY wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:51 am
hoos89 wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:10 am Top tier players should be at *least* 3 firsts (unless one of the firsts is super early, but you coild also normalize that by saying that 1.01 is worth 2 firsts). No chance I'm trading away JT for the equivalent of 2.5 random firsts. Also 1 mid 2nd is worth materially less than half a mid-first (nobody in their right mind would trade e.g. 1.06 for 2.06 and 2.07).
I totally understand your thinking. It’s just that I have traded 3 firsts for a guy 3 times and regretted it. Once for Trent Richardson once for Doug Martin and once for Mark Ingram. I don’t think I would do it again unless it was for a WR.
Those are pretty rough guys to pick. When and why did you send 3 firsts to Ingram? I don't think he's ever come close to top 10 ADP.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1


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