Is Kyler a long term improvement over Lamar?

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Is Kyler a long term improvement over Lamar?

Postby Finfansteve » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:20 pm

Maybe I’m down on Lamar after his injury plagued, RB-less season but as an owner I’m contemplating making a move for kyler Murray but after watching him Monday night I’m not really convinced he’s all that either after having him this year in a redraft league. I haven’t made an offer yet as I’m still pondering my whole qb situation. Where do you guys see both of these qbs futures headed? I’m starting to think Lamar has a better future for the next half dozen years due to his running ability but if kyler started running again like he did his first couple of years he might end up being better during the same time frame. Maybe the best move is no move at this point🤷‍♂️
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Re: Is Kyler a long term improvement over Lamar?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:23 pm

I think both QB's have the skill set to be up and down at times but Jackson still seems like the safer option when running dries up. Murray is simply not elite unless he can run the ball well. We have seen that for two years now. Jackson is tied to running also, but can get it down through the air well enough. Both are good options, but I would much rather have Jackson.

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Re: Is Kyler a long term improvement over Lamar?

Postby Finfansteve » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:31 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:23 pm I think both QB's have the skill set to be up and down at times but Jackson still seems like the safer option when running dries up. Murray is simply not elite unless he can run the ball well. We have seen that for two years now. Jackson is tied to running also, but can get it down through the air well enough. Both are good options, but I would much rather have Jackson.
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Re: Is Kyler a long term improvement over Lamar?

Postby Blumpy » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:39 pm

Its close. So far Lamar has done more. I think Kyler has more arm talent but LJax really improving. Both are dynamic runners but I think LJax is in the incredible Vick kinda category runner who seems to avoid the bigger shots more than Kyler but I haven't watched Kyler as much

LJax has had a MVP season so clearly has shown he can put it all together so that gives him the edge in my mind
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Re: Is Kyler a long term improvement over Lamar?

Postby murphysxm » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:42 pm

For me is comes down to this. For Kyler to be elite he has to run. He has not proven he can do that and not get injured. Give me Lamar
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Re: Is Kyler a long term improvement over Lamar?

Postby HerbUrban » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:21 pm

I’d take Lamar over Murray, but would trade for a Burrow or Herbert if I had the chance. Running QB have shorter shelf lives and I don’t see Lamar or Murray being top options for the long haul.
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Re: Is Kyler a long term improvement over Lamar?

Postby sugbear65 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:45 pm

murphysxm wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:42 pm For me is comes down to this. For Kyler to be elite he has to run. He has not proven he can do that and not get injured. Give me Lamar
This was sorta what I was going to say too. Both are pretty valuable in dynasty because of their legs. But Kyler is too small to take the beating every week that running entails. Chances are neither make it through any given season unharmed, but I have less confidence Kyler can so I’d take Lamar.

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Re: Is Kyler a long term improvement over Lamar?

Postby Finfansteve » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:08 pm

HerbUrban wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:21 pm I’d take Lamar over Murray, but would trade for a Burrow or Herbert if I had the chance. Running QB have shorter shelf lives and I don’t see Lamar or Murray being top options for the long haul.
The guy who’s got kyler also has Herbert. This is a start 1qb league. I tried to get Herbert earlier in the season but ended up giving away bit players for Hurts from him who I then traded to get what should be a top 5 2023 1st. I liked that trade result but at that point he didn’t want to give Herbert up and would probably be less inclined to do so now. The mahomes guy has Prescott as well but I’m thinking knowing him that he’s not inclined to trade either of them. I’m gonna look at possibilities for mahomes but I’m not holding out hope. I have chase and would like to get the hookup with burrow but burrow is that guys only qb and hates Lamar so I’m thinking a trade for burrow involving Lamar isn’t gonna happen. Luckily I’m pretty set at the other positions so I can wait for Lamar to come back to his old self but if I’m being honest the last couple years have been frustrating starting him. I traded little for the same reasons- he’s frustrating to own and have to rely on every week
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Re: Is Kyler a long term improvement over Lamar?

Postby Zech13 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:13 pm

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Re: Is Kyler a long term improvement over Lamar?

Postby Finfansteve » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:38 pm

Zech13 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:13 pmLJax
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Qb: Hurts, geno Smith
Rb: JT, Gibbs, Montgomery, Roschon, Z. White, Ty Chandler
Wr: AJB, JJ, Chase, waddle, G Wilson
TE: Pitts, Kincaid, Likely, Njoku

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